Timo Geusch

Well, *I* do.

The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add insult
to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get it
serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.

OTOH, top marks to the four bikers who stopped to check that I was OK
while I was admiring the sights on the A2 just past the Dome (none
found) during the wait for Auntie Carole to send around the breakdown
lorry. And top marks to Brian for being completely unfazed by me turning
up in the middle of the night instead of the early evening as originally
agreed.

Unfortunately I've already got a lower bound on the cost for the repair
so you can probably guess that I'm a very happy bunny this morning. Not.

I can already hear Lozzo's pen scratching on the pages of his Black Book
of BMW.

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platypus

Timo Geusch wrote:
> Well, *I* do.
>
> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add
> insult to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get
> it serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.

Good job you've still got the VFR, then.

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"enthusiasm and incompetence"

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On Jul 12, 7:32 am, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> Well, *I* do.
>
> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add insult
> to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get it
> serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.
>
[snip]
>
> I can already hear Lozzo's pen scratching on the pages of his Black Book
> of BMW.
>

Someone at work is selling a F650CS, it may be cheaper in the long
run ;-)

the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

platypus wrote:
>> Well, *I* do.
>>
>> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add
>> insult to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get
>> it serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.
>
>Good job you've still got the VFR, then.

You mean that one that's (a) got no MOT, (b) no rear brake pads on account of
me waiting for the parts from Dave Silver?

Fortunately I do have a BMW R1150 RS courtesy bike...

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TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 12 Jul, 08:32, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> Well, *I* do.
>
> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add insult
> to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get it
> serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.
>
> OTOH, top marks to the four bikers who stopped to check that I was OK
> while I was admiring the sights on the A2 just past the Dome (none
> found) during the wait for Auntie Carole to send around the breakdown
> lorry. And top marks to Brian for being completely unfazed by me turning
> up in the middle of the night instead of the early evening as originally
> agreed.
>
> Unfortunately I've already got a lower bound on the cost for the repair
> so you can probably guess that I'm a very happy bunny this morning. Not.

A "lower bound". What's that, then?

Go on, let me guess the cost. I'd say £1100.
>
> I can already hear Lozzo's pen scratching on the pages of his Black Book
> of BMW.
>
So can I.

<Worried>

What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?

Eiron

TOG@toil wrote:

> What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?

Look at the white warning circle.
If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.

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On 12 Jul, 12:53, Eiron <E...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> TOG@toil wrote:
> > What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?
>
> Look at the white warning circle.
> If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.
>

Bwaahahahahaha!

*Excellent*.

Scraggy

Eiron wrote:
> TOG@toil wrote:
>
>> What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?
>
> Look at the white warning circle.
> If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.

Fuuuuck...
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Champ

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:53:10 +0100, Eiron <E1ron@hotmail.com> wrote:

>TOG@toil wrote:
>
>> What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?
>
>Look at the white warning circle.
>If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.

LOL!
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the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

platypus wrote:
>>> On 12 Jul, 08:32, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> us about[2]), headstock bearings and a 6k service. Oh, and a front
>> tyre.
>
>So you're looking at the thick end of £2k? You'd be better buying something
>like item 220127372132, swapping over all the nice bits and breaking the
>carcass of the old one. It's not like it's a valuable rare classic - you
>can simply treat the bike itself as a consumable.

I've thought about this. The problem is that gearbox spline is one of the
very few well-known problem areas on the K and there's no guarantee that
another K is not or will not be suffering from the same problem sooner or
later. Coughing up the dosh now will pretty much ensure that I'll have a
sorted bike for now.

If I buy another one (unless I treat it as disposable and only change the oil,
if that) then I'll be starting afresh, whereas in the case of keeping this
thing, I know what's already been fixed/sorted, and this one's got a clean
bill of health from Brian with the exception of, well, the spline problem.

The bike is a consumable in a sense - well, it's actually a business tool,
even if it's owned by me - but I'd also have to work out what the cost of
change is as opposed to the cost of fixing it. And in this case, fixing wins..

Hog

platypus wrote:

> So you're looking at the thick end of £2k? You'd be better buying
> something like item 220127372132, swapping over all the nice bits and
> breaking the carcass of the old one. It's not like it's a valuable
> rare classic - you can simply treat the bike itself as a consumable.

Or simply getting the bike home and doing the gearbox himself with a
complete box from a breaker.

It's a feckin rare occurance, you could guess if it was going to happen
somewhere......

--
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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 12 Jul, 14:24, "the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
<u33672@uwe> wrote:
> platypus wrote:
> >>> On 12 Jul, 08:32, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> >> us about[2]), headstock bearings and a 6k service. Oh, and a front
> >> tyre.
>
> >So you're looking at the thick end of £2k? You'd be better buying something
> >like item 220127372132, swapping over all the nice bits and breaking the
> >carcass of the old one. It's not like it's a valuable rare classic - you
> >can simply treat the bike itself as a consumable.
>
> I've thought about this. The problem is that gearbox spline is one of the
> very few well-known problem areas on the K and there's no guarantee that
> another K is not or will not be suffering from the same problem sooner or
> later. Coughing up the dosh now will pretty much ensure that I'll have a
> sorted bike for now.
>
> If I buy another one (unless I treat it as disposable and only change theoil,
> if that) then I'll be starting afresh, whereas in the case of keeping this
> thing, I know what's already been fixed/sorted, and this one's got a clean
> bill of health from Brian with the exception of, well, the spline problem.
>
> The bike is a consumable in a sense - well, it's actually a business tool,
> even if it's owned by me - but I'd also have to work out what the cost of
> change is as opposed to the cost of fixing it. And in this case, fixing wins..


It's a tough call. My first thought was to contact Motorworks first,
to see if they've got a decent used gearbox, but as you say, the main
expense is the labour. That said, with a used 'box, the only labour
would be the swap, but it'll still be expensive.....

If it was mine, I'd write it off at this point. All the rest of the
bits are worth a lot of dosh - fairing, panniers, clocks, ABS, etc etc
etc. I'd just break it and start again.

TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 12 Jul, 14:29, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> platypus wrote:
> > So you're looking at the thick end of £2k? You'd be better buying
> > something like item 220127372132, swapping over all the nice bits and
> > breaking the carcass of the old one. It's not like it's a valuable
> > rare classic - you can simply treat the bike itself as a consumable.
>
> Or simply getting the bike home and doing the gearbox himself with a
> complete box from a breaker.
>
> It's a feckin rare occurance, you could guess if it was going to happen
> to someone......
>

.....it'd happen to Timo.

speedyspic@googlemail.com

On 12 Jul, 11:53, Eiron <E...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> TOG@toil wrote:
> > What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?
>
> Look at the white warning circle.
> If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.

I *will* remeber that one.

Thank you.

--
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the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, wrote:
>On 12 Jul, 14:24, "the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
><u33672@uwe> wrote:
>> >>> On 12 Jul, 08:32, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
>> >>> wrote:
>> even if it's owned by me - but I'd also have to work out what the cost of
>> change is as opposed to the cost of fixing it. And in this case, fixing wins..
>
>It's a tough call. My first thought was to contact Motorworks first,
>to see if they've got a decent used gearbox, but as you say, the main
>expense is the labour. That said, with a used 'box, the only labour
>would be the swap, but it'll still be expensive.....

I had this discussion with Brian a while back and he pointed out that the
difference between putting a new box in as opposed to putting the new shaft
into the old box was actually more or less a zero-sum game due to the cost of
a decent box vs the cost of the shaft and the additional labour. And it was
actually *him* who suggested that a used box may be worth considering.

>If it was mine, I'd write it off at this point. All the rest of the
>bits are worth a lot of dosh - fairing, panniers, clocks, ABS, etc etc
>etc. I'd just break it and start again.

Well, I've thought about that but OTOH I'd be more tempted to keep it and
have it fixed rather than buying another grenade and then try to figure if
it's got the pin pulled or not.

That said, I shall get my arse down to Folkestone on Saturday if a certain
bike is still around and have a good poke around.

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Champ

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:15:54 GMT, "the_longhaired_boxhead via
MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote:

>>Timo - have you considered buying, ooh - a decent ZZR1100, say?
>
>The thought did cross my mind at one point, yes. TOG suggested that it may be
>a waste on my commute but still... How well do they stand up to 20k+ a year?

With regular oil and filter changes, no problem at all. Any problems
would be more likely to do with the wear and tear on the cycle parts
(brakes, suspension, brakes, paintwork, brakes [1]) through British
winters.

They use shims for the valve adjustment, but these are very
straightforward to do at home, with no special tools or techniques
required.

Of course, they *can* eat tyres too, but as their lighter than a big
K, and only have more power at the top half of the rev range, that's
in the control of the rider.

I guarantee a ZZR would be more *fun* to ride, mind :-)

>The big advantage of the K over something as nice, sensible and reliable as,
>say, a VFR750 is that the seating position is much better for me. Sporty
>doesn't do it for me and actually does tend to cause a few problems on longer
>runs.

A ZZR could be too sporty for you, then, but you'd have to try one.

[1] ZZR1100 brakes earn their keep.
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platypus

the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
>
> Guess I should probably be looking at something like a Drifter as
> well but I'd be worried that I need to park it on its handlebars
> whenever I'm in Belgium.

A Cali might be better - more readily available, easy to fix, generally come
with a decent screen as standard, and take luggage, again they have it
mostly as standard. OTOH my Drifter went 30k miles wthout a breakdown.

Oh, and FOYRNB.

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"enthusiasm and incompetence"

Scraggy

TOG@toil wrote:

>
> If it was mine, I'd write it off at this point. All the rest of the
> bits are worth a lot of dosh - fairing, panniers, clocks, ABS, etc etc
> etc. I'd just break it and start again.

Seen the mileage on this one?
item 190130740918
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Hog

the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:

> It's not exactly an unknown problem and the rumour mills I tapped into
> suggest that it can become more of a problem if the bike's not been
> used for periods of time because you can get surface rust on the
> shaft that accelerates the wear.

No not entirely and as you say rust won't help. BMW sell a rather special
spline grease. I use it in there and on driveshaft/final drive splines. It
isn't stupidly expensive.

Can't you do an "accelerated" workshop repair of your own? I'm sure help
can be had if required. A handy rafter for tying the bike up to helps.

K gearboxes are a doddle, not like the old boxer items with all that endplay
shimming heartache. I wonder how much the shaft is.

Don't you have a spare bike actually running? You are welcome to borrow one
of mine, suitably insured, for a week or two. Leeds collection though.

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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Hog

platypus wrote:
> the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
>>
>> Guess I should probably be looking at something like a Drifter as
>> well but I'd be worried that I need to park it on its handlebars
>> whenever I'm in Belgium.
>
> A Cali might be better - more readily available, easy to fix,
> generally come with a decent screen as standard, and take luggage,
> again they have it mostly as standard. OTOH my Drifter went 30k
> miles wthout a breakdown.
> Oh, and FOYRNB.

I often look at Cali's and think they look pretty good. Certainly the only
bike of that type I'd consider. The wrist angle on the 'bars might be all
wrong for Timo though. Plenty of them to be had around.

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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

darsy

On Jul 12, 2:40 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> I often look at Cali's and think they look pretty good. Certainly the only
> bike of that type I'd consider.

AOL - they're one of the few bikes in the "cruiser" class that I like
the look off - I especially like the look of the dechromed "Stone"
variant from a few years back.

http://www.armory.com/~marina/images/mattc1.jpg


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dog

deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
> But even so 700 quid for labour sounds steep to me; even if it's two
> day's work. Then again my prices are maybe based in the 80s.

it was acceptable at the time...
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Hog

darsy wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2:40 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I often look at Cali's and think they look pretty good. Certainly
>> the only bike of that type I'd consider.
>
> AOL - they're one of the few bikes in the "cruiser" class that I like
> the look off - I especially like the look of the dechromed "Stone"
> variant from a few years back.
>
> http://www.armory.com/~marina/images/mattc1.jpg

That's the bike, though it's had the standard bars changed. Want's to be the
twin disc variant though.

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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Champ

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:45:30 -0000, darsy <darsyx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 12, 2:40 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I often look at Cali's and think they look pretty good. Certainly the only
>> bike of that type I'd consider.
>
>AOL - they're one of the few bikes in the "cruiser" class that I like
>the look off - I especially like the look of the dechromed "Stone"
>variant from a few years back.
>
>http://www.armory.com/~marina/images/mattc1.jpg

That is fantastic! Surely it can't be counted as a cruiser. The
straight bars alone disqualify it.
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Tosspot

Eiron wrote:
> TOG@toil wrote:
>
>> What are the early symptoms of gearbox demise on a K1100LT?
>
>
> Look at the white warning circle.
> If two of the segments have gone blue then it's going to break down.

Bwaahaaa, you evil man!

Des

Hog <hogSPAM@freenetchips.co.uk> wrote:
> deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:

>> I keep looking at the K1200GT and would be sorely tempted if I thought
>> that it would be reliable.

> But you *do* know better

Are new BMs that bad ?

Really.

'Cos I want a K1200S...

D.

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BMW K100-LT

Hog

Timo Geusch wrote:
> Well, *I* do.
>
> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add
> insult to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get
> it serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.


Quickly now
item 330069645038
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-GEARBOX-16...QQcmdZViewItem

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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Hog

the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>>> Well, *I* do.
>>>
>>> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add
>>> insult to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get
>>> it serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.
>>
>> Good job you've still got the VFR, then.
>
> You mean that one that's (a) got no MOT, (b) no rear brake pads on
> account of me waiting for the parts from Dave Silver?
>
> Fortunately I do have a BMW R1150 RS courtesy bike...

Hmm just a thought, I could pick it up for you. Can be garaged here for a
few days.

ebay 130131308816
1987 BMW K75S SILVER ULTRA LOW MILEAGE 36,000 MILES

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk

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deadmail@burnt.org.uk

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
<f75m7v$6kc$1@registered.motzarella.org>:

>deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>> I keep looking at the K1200GT and would be sorely tempted if I thought
>> that it would be reliable.
>
>But you *do* know better

I know, crying shame really 'cos it looks just perfect.
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doing nothing means a lot to me.

darsy

On Jul 12, 4:52 pm, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:45:30 -0000, darsy <dar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 12, 2:40 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I often look at Cali's and think they look pretty good. Certainly the only
> >> bike of that type I'd consider.
>
> >AOL - they're one of the few bikes in the "cruiser" class that I like
> >the look off - I especially like the look of the dechromed "Stone"
> >variant from a few years back.
>
> >http://www.armory.com/~marina/images/mattc1.jpg
>
> That is fantastic! Surely it can't be counted as a cruiser. The
> straight bars alone disqualify it.


well, it's based on the California, which is definitely a cruiser. And
one of the Jap cruisers (Suzuki Intruder??) has flat bars too.

--
d.

Scraggy

deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:

>
> I keep looking at the K1200GT and would be sorely tempted if I thought
> that it would be reliable.

I have to say I agree, when they get a demonstrator in the nearest dealers I
intend taking one out for a while(1). I expect to hear more details
reasonably soon about them, from someone wot'll know.
(1) Not that I'll ever buy a brand new one(2), I dont see the point in
taking an intial depreciation hit, when someone else can.
(2) Bike or car.

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Timo Geusch

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes:

> the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
>> platypus wrote:
>>>> Well, *I* do.
>>>>
>>>> The K stripped its gearbox input shaft splines last night; To add
>>>> insult to injury, that was on the way to my tame BMW mechanic to get
>>>> it serviced and, strangely enough, have the gearbox looked at. Arse.
>>>
>>> Good job you've still got the VFR, then.
>>
>> You mean that one that's (a) got no MOT, (b) no rear brake pads on
>> account of me waiting for the parts from Dave Silver?
>>
>> Fortunately I do have a BMW R1150 RS courtesy bike...
>
> Hmm just a thought, I could pick it up for you. Can be garaged here for a
> few days.
>
> ebay 130131308816
> 1987 BMW K75S SILVER ULTRA LOW MILEAGE 36,000 MILES
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk

Appreciate the thought, but no thanks - the last thing I need at the
moment is another bike. Got to clear some space first.

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Timo Geusch

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> writes:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:15:54 GMT, "the_longhaired_boxhead via
> MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote:
>
>>>Timo - have you considered buying, ooh - a decent ZZR1100, say?
>>
>>The thought did cross my mind at one point, yes. TOG suggested that it may be
>>a waste on my commute but still... How well do they stand up to 20k+ a year?
>
> With regular oil and filter changes, no problem at all.

OK.

> Any problems
> would be more likely to do with the wear and tear on the cycle parts
> (brakes, suspension, brakes, paintwork, brakes [1]) through British
> winters.

Ah yes, I've seen that on the Gpz550 I used to have.


> They use shims for the valve adjustment, but these are very
> straightforward to do at home, with no special tools or techniques
> required.

Good.

> Of course, they *can* eat tyres too, but as their lighter than a big
> K, and only have more power at the top half of the rev range, that's
> in the control of the rider.

Right, tyres aren't that big a problem for me as most of my riding is on
motorways at fairly constant speeds.

> I guarantee a ZZR would be more *fun* to ride, mind :-)

Hmm. You do know how heavily the M20 is policed?

>>The big advantage of the K over something as nice, sensible and reliable as,
>>say, a VFR750 is that the seating position is much better for me. Sporty
>>doesn't do it for me and actually does tend to cause a few problems on longer
>>runs.
>
> A ZZR could be too sporty for you, then, but you'd have to try one.

Guess I'll give it four weeks until Nige sells his "brilliant" example
then .

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The Older Gentleman

Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

> *ding*. It's comfy, filters easily because it's rather narrow without
> the panniers and will sit at 80-90 all day long. And the weather
> protection is superb.
>
> There's someone with a K1200LT in the same carpark and I keep looking at
> that wondering how they went from the 1100 to *that*.

Exactly my own sentiments, from start to finish.

I remember Hog singing the praises of his ex-Plod one, when he was
trying to get me to sell it, and I just didn't see what he was on about.
I do now. It is fabulously good at doing the job it was designed to do.


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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

steve auvache

In article <1i15s3b.fkvz8yfuj7nkN%chateau.murray.takethisout@ dsl.pipex.c
om>, The Older Gentleman <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com>
writes
>Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> *ding*. It's comfy, filters easily because it's rather narrow without
>> the panniers and will sit at 80-90 all day long. And the weather
>> protection is superb.
>>
>> There's someone with a K1200LT in the same carpark and I keep looking at
>> that wondering how they went from the 1100 to *that*.
>
>Exactly my own sentiments, from start to finish.
>
>I remember Hog singing the praises of his ex-Plod one, when he was
>trying to get me to sell it, and I just didn't see what he was on about.
>I do now. It is fabulously good at doing the job it was designed to do.

Effortless hours in the saddle at any speed and quick if you have the
bollox or giving Loz a reason d'etre?


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steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in message
<82y7hle5yv.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>:

>Guess I'll give it four weeks until Nige sells his "brilliant" example
>then .

Will that be the one with less miles and in far better condition than
the one he bought?
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I know I aint doing much,
doing nothing means a lot to me.