AndrewR

30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the difference
between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?

Specifically why is this bike http://tinyurl.com/2l9d7z the same price as
this one http://tinyurl.com/34dtps, despite being a newer model with 5,000
fewer miles on?

Oh, this is all too confusing for me.

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Simon Wilson

AndrewR wrote:
> 30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the difference
> between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?
>
> Specifically why is this bike http://tinyurl.com/2l9d7z the same price as
> this one http://tinyurl.com/34dtps, despite being a newer model with 5,000
> fewer miles on?
>
> Oh, this is all too confusing for me.
>

The one with higher miles is listed as having ABS and heated grips.
Personally, having now had the ST1100 ABS woes, I would avoid the ABS if
possible.

HTH

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CT

AndrewR wrote:

> 30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the
> difference between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?

God knows. Someone will be along shortly to tell you that they're both
underpowered sheds and that the 750 is a better bike.

> Specifically why is this bike http://tinyurl.com/2l9d7z the same
> price as this one http://tinyurl.com/34dtps, despite being a newer
> model with 5,000 fewer miles on?

Well, the A4 is 'very good condition' and the A5 is 'excellent
condition' and has heated grips. Controversial, I know, but why not
phone the dealer and ask.

> Oh, this is all too confusing for me.

<mode=recommend what you own>
Just buy a Sprint ST 1050.
</mode>
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Hog

Simon Wilson wrote:
> AndrewR wrote:
>> 30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the
>> difference between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?
>>
>> Specifically why is this bike http://tinyurl.com/2l9d7z the same
>> price as this one http://tinyurl.com/34dtps, despite being a newer
>> model with 5,000 fewer miles on?
>>
>> Oh, this is all too confusing for me.
>>
>
> The one with higher miles is listed as having ABS and heated grips.
> Personally, having now had the ST1100 ABS woes, I would avoid the ABS
> if possible.

If possible try and encourage him not to buy a Honda or a VFR at all.

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Champ

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:47:45 +0100, "AndrewR"
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the difference
>between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?

It doesn't matter, because you're not going to buy either.

Really, Andy, don't - Honda ruined a bike that virtually defined its
class by bolting a completely unnecessary variable valve mechanism.

"Step away from the Honda".
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wessie

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:b17ua3lkg622f25ldjt8mjf02nd263vdiu@
4ax.com:

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:47:45 +0100, "AndrewR"
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the difference
>>between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?
>
> It doesn't matter, because you're not going to buy either.
>
> Really, Andy, don't - Honda ruined a bike that virtually defined its
> class by bolting a completely unnecessary variable valve mechanism.
>

They'd ruined it years before that sub-assembly was added

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Pip

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:26:36 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>"Step away from the Honda".

On a slightly hijacking note, would you extend that advice to a
Blackbird? I have a small yearning, you see, and a bloke that I know
is about to move on his 'Bird.

This bike is ultimately cared for, living in a carpeted, airconned
garage. It has had all the services, by time as well as mileage
(although it hasn't many miles) and he replaces tyres when they get
dopwn to 3-4mm as he "prefers the look of new tyres".

He did his first trackday in the Novice group at Silverstone a couple
of weeks ago. He "didn't see the need for first or second", so he
circulated in 3/4/5/6. This bike has never ever been thrashed, is in
as close to showroom condition as it possibly can be - but it is a
Honda with linked brakes and only one step away from a Pan.

How say you, KawasakiMan?

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AndrewR

Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:47:45 +0100, "AndrewR"
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> 30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the
>> difference between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?
>
> It doesn't matter, because you're not going to buy either.

But, Mr Champ, I'm so confused.

I *know* I want a new bike, I just don't know what I want.

Tell me what to buy!

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Pip

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Tell me what to buy!

A Rocket III.

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Hog

Pip wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:26:36 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Step away from the Honda".
>
> On a slightly hijacking note, would you extend that advice to a
> Blackbird? I have a small yearning, you see, and a bloke that I know
> is about to move on his 'Bird.
>
> This bike is ultimately cared for, living in a carpeted, airconned
> garage. It has had all the services, by time as well as mileage
> (although it hasn't many miles) and he replaces tyres when they get
> dopwn to 3-4mm as he "prefers the look of new tyres".
>
> He did his first trackday in the Novice group at Silverstone a couple
> of weeks ago. He "didn't see the need for first or second", so he
> circulated in 3/4/5/6. This bike has never ever been thrashed, is in
> as close to showroom condition as it possibly can be - but it is a
> Honda with linked brakes and only one step away from a Pan.
>
> How say you, KawasakiMan?

<chips in>
It's a heavy'ish old bird all fuelled up. Maybe 20kg more than an RF.
Back to back with a Thunderace it felt top heavy and barge like with a long
stretch to the bars. The linked brakes were ok, but I didn't need to stop on
any off camber gravel strewn T junctions.

Zym has or had one I think, to comment. IIRC he prefers them to his ZZR1200.

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Hog

Hog wrote:

> Zym has or had one I think, to comment. IIRC he prefers them to his
> ZZR1200.

Ooops ZX12-R

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ginge

AndrewR wrote:

> Tell me what to buy!

Buy pork bellies.. Sell orange Juice!!

Eiron

Pip wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tell me what to buy!
>
> A Rocket III.

Yes. Those BSAs were much nicer than the Trident.
Of course, neither compares to the Hurricane....

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Champ

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:47:45 +0100, "AndrewR"
>> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> 30 seconds of Googling have produced no insight, so what's the
>>> difference between a VFR800-A4 and a VFR800-A5?
>>
>> It doesn't matter, because you're not going to buy either.
>
>But, Mr Champ, I'm so confused.
>
>I *know* I want a new bike, I just don't know what I want.
>
>Tell me what to buy!

What's your budget?
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AndrewR

Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>> Tell me what to buy!
>
> What's your budget?

Up to 7k, but I'd prefer to spend less than that if possible.

I want hard luggage and the budget has to cover that as well.

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darsy

On Jul 31, 1:35 pm, "AndrewR" <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Champ wrote:
> > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
> > <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Tell me what to buy!
>
> > What's your budget?
>
> Up to 7k, but I'd prefer to spend less than that if possible.
>
> I want hard luggage and the budget has to cover that as well.

Bandit 1200 GT, and give the change to me.

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CT

AndrewR wrote:

> Up to 7k, but I'd prefer to spend less than that if possible.
>
> I want hard luggage and the budget has to cover that as well.

<fx:tries again>

http://tinyurl.com/2rpcy3

Have a test ride. You will easily add hard luggage to it and remain
within your budget.

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Paul Carmichael

Pip wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:26:36 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>"Step away from the Honda".
>
>
> On a slightly hijacking note, would you extend that advice to a
> Blackbird?

"It's an excellent touring bike".

Anyway, how's Champ going to know? I think he rode one once, but I'm
pretty sure he's never owned one.

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Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> The Blackbird is a superbly capable bike, but I would suggest that
> no-one ever really fell in love with one. Even Dodger says that his
> is a bit dull. Typically, it takes Honda to make a 180mph bike feel
> dull.

Exactly how I felt after riding Zymurgy's. Immensely capable, and a real
quality bike, but 120mph felt like 80mph which felt like 50mph. No
sensation of speed whatsoever except for the slipstream and the figures
on the clock.

I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
Amazingly affordable, even new.




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Hog

AndrewR wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:37 +0100, "AndrewR"
>> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Tell me what to buy!
>>
>> What's your budget?
>
> Up to 7k, but I'd prefer to spend less than that if possible.
>
> I want hard luggage and the budget has to cover that as well.

Gawd you can have most things fairly new then including

2003 Yam FJ1300ABS 20k miles for ~£6000
2004 Kwak ZZR1200 15k miles ~£5000
both with hard luggage

If you have such a sufficiency to spend and why would you even *consider* a
VFR.

I think I'd go the ZZR route myself out of those two.

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AndrewR

CT wrote:

> <fx:tries again>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rpcy3
>
> Have a test ride. You will easily add hard luggage to it and remain
> within your budget.

I've considered it, but M&S don't do test rides on used bikes[1] and it
seems, to me, pricey for a 2 year old bike with 22k on the clock.

I've been to have a look at this one, http://tinyurl.com/2cms6x, but it's
the same story ... no test rides.

[1] Because, they say, all of their bikes are untaxed and SORNed, but I
didn't think that mattered if you stuck trade plates on them.

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Hog wrote:

> Gawd you can have most things fairly new then including
>
> 2003 Yam FJ1300ABS 20k miles for ~£6000
> 2004 Kwak ZZR1200 15k miles ~£5000
> both with hard luggage

Both too big, I think - I need something I can get through rush hour traffic
into the middle of Newcastle easily every morning.

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Champ

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
>Amazingly affordable, even new.

I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
..Enterprise
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CT

AndrewR wrote:

> I've considered it, but M&S don't do test rides on used bikes[1] and
> it seems, to me, pricey for a 2 year old bike with 22k on the clock.

Yeah, I know that one is a bit pricey. On the plus side, Sprint ST
residuals must be good )[1]

> I've been to have a look at this one, http://tinyurl.com/2cms6x, but
> it's the same story ... no test rides.

Test ride a new one then, and then look around for good, low mileage
secondhand ones. It really is a cracking bike.


[1] Smiley for TOG's benefit - I do realise that asking price <>
selling price.

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Hog

AndrewR wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>
>> Gawd you can have most things fairly new then including
>>
>> 2003 Yam FJ1300ABS 20k miles for ~£6000
>> 2004 Kwak ZZR1200 15k miles ~£5000
>> both with hard luggage
>
> Both too big, I think - I need something I can get through rush hour
> traffic into the middle of Newcastle easily every morning.

Just the same width as a VFR with hard luggage.
As people suggest, put the laptop in a big top box or tank bag and remove
the panniers.

It's starting to sound like you just need a new 600 sprotbike with Ventura
luggage or a Givi rack and hard topcase.

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The Older Gentleman

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
> >Amazingly affordable, even new.
>
> I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
> around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
> bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
> .Enterprise

Shut up.

Shutupshutupshutup.


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AndrewR

Hog wrote:

> It's starting to sound like you just need a new 600 sprotbike with
> Ventura luggage or a Givi rack and hard topcase.

No, no - all of the new 600 sprots stuff is not big *enough*.

I need something that's

Bigger than a sports 600
Not as big as a hyper-tourer
Comfortable
At least as fast as a three-quarters shagged ZX-6R
OK with luggage
Reliable

Given that under 7 grand would get me a brand new, non-ABS, VFR800 from
Lloyd Coopers it almost seems a shame not to. Almost.

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Ace

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:12:18 +0100, "AndrewR"
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Hog wrote:
>
>> It's starting to sound like you just need a new 600 sprotbike with
>> Ventura luggage or a Givi rack and hard topcase.
>
>No, no - all of the new 600 sprots stuff is not big *enough*.
>
>I need something that's
>
>Bigger than a sports 600
>Not as big as a hyper-tourer
>Comfortable
>At least as fast as a three-quarters shagged ZX-6R
>OK with luggage
>Reliable
>
>Given that under 7 grand would get me a brand new, non-ABS, VFR800 from
>Lloyd Coopers it almost seems a shame not to. Almost.

Look, you've already been pointed at the newer Sprint ST. Even the old
one was a much better bike than the VFR, and side-by-side comparisons
with both the 750 and 800 proved it to be much quicker as well.

YKIMS.

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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:24 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
>> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>> >I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
>> >Amazingly affordable, even new.
>>
>> I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
>> around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
>> bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
>> .Enterprise
>
>Shut up.
>
>Shutupshutupshutup.

And I saw one tonight on the way home and it looked lovely. And they
were one of the fleet bikes for the Tour de France. Coped with all those
hills and bends perfectly well.
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Paul Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:24 +0100,
> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>>Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
>>>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
>>>>Amazingly affordable, even new.
>>>
>>>I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
>>>around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
>>>bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
>>>.Enterprise
>>
>>Shut up.
>>
>>Shutupshutupshutup.
>
>
> And I saw one tonight on the way home and it looked lovely. And they
> were one of the fleet bikes for the Tour de France. Coped with all those
> hills and bends perfectly well.

Aren't the TdeF escort/camera bikes GTR1400s rather than ZZR1400s?

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The Older Gentleman

Paul Corfield <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:24 +0100,
> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
> >> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >>
> >> >I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
> >> >Amazingly affordable, even new.
> >>
> >> I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
> >> around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
> >> bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
> >> .Enterprise
> >
> >Shut up.
> >
> >Shutupshutupshutup.
>
> And I saw one tonight on the way home and it looked lovely. And they
> were one of the fleet bikes for the Tour de France. Coped with all those
> hills and bends perfectly well.

And you can fekkorf as well, you stirrer.


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Mark Olson

Eiron wrote:
> Mark Olson wrote:

>> http://www.twobros.com/Cust_Service/...a_concours.pdf
>>
>>
>> Claims 143 rwhp stock, 147 with their can.. Usual disclaimers about
>> dyno accuracy apply.
>
>
> Note the date and time of the two runs. Did they reload the standard map
> for the stock run?

No idea, although they had almost 19 minutes to change a can and download a
different map. Perhaps they had two fellows working on it simultaneously.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that Two Brothers didn't even have the mojo
to remap the GTR1400 at that time, given all the new KI-PASS malarkey.

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wessie

"AndrewR" <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:46af5f5d$0$7432
$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com:

> Hog wrote:
>
>> It's starting to sound like you just need a new 600 sprotbike with
>> Ventura luggage or a Givi rack and hard topcase.
>
> No, no - all of the new 600 sprots stuff is not big *enough*.
>
> I need something that's
>
> Bigger than a sports 600
> Not as big as a hyper-tourer
> Comfortable
> At least as fast as a three-quarters shagged ZX-6R
> OK with luggage
> Reliable
>
> Given that under 7 grand would get me a brand new, non-ABS, VFR800 from
> Lloyd Coopers it almost seems a shame not to. Almost.
>

there are some of these advertised on autotrader in your price range
http://www.speedaway.co.uk/showroom/...rge1200_01.jpg

Unfortunately, the one in NE4 is at M&S (:



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Paul Corfield

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:19:32 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Paul Corfield <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:24 +0100,
>> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>> >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
>> >> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I must confess to having the odd itch for a ZZR1200, or now, the 1400.
>> >> >Amazingly affordable, even new.
>> >>
>> >> I rode the 14 a couple of weeks ago. Phenomenal machine - tootled
>> >> around at walking speed like a toy, rolled into roundabouts like a
>> >> bike half its size, headed for the horizon like the Starship
>> >> .Enterprise
>> >
>> >Shut up.
>> >
>> >Shutupshutupshutup.
>>
>> And I saw one tonight on the way home and it looked lovely. And they
>> were one of the fleet bikes for the Tour de France. Coped with all those
>> hills and bends perfectly well.
>
>And you can fekkorf as well, you stirrer.

Kawasaki, kawasaki, kawasaki

repeat after me

Kawasaki, kawasaki, kawasaki

etc etc etc

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VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS
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Bear

In article <ro6va39test16l8sjmc7g1k62hf30d2ar2@4ax.com>, Paul Corfield says...

> Kawasaki, kawasaki, kawasaki
>
> etc etc etc

heh.

Out of interest, as you own 3 such different bikes ...

What's the ratio of usage between them?

I would think the VFR was a bit superfluous, or maybe it's the beemer
that suffers?
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Bear

wessie

Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.2119b14c33310d1198a30b@news.individual.ne t:

> In article <ro6va39test16l8sjmc7g1k62hf30d2ar2@4ax.com>, Paul Corfield
> says...
>
>> Kawasaki, kawasaki, kawasaki
>>
>> etc etc etc
>
> heh.
>
> Out of interest, as you own 3 such different bikes ...
>
> What's the ratio of usage between them?
>
> I would think the VFR was a bit superfluous, or maybe it's the beemer
> that suffers?

I'm trying to recall the last time MrC posted about riding one of his
bikes.

I like reading his travel reports but they are mostly of trips using
public transport, intimidating fellow pedestrians...

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BMW R1150GS

"Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney

Champ

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:24 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:43:30 +0100,
>> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>> >I must confess to having the odd itch for