The Older Gentleman

By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.

Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.

My, but it's fun, though, innit?



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AW

On Aug 5, 10:54 am, chateau.murrayTAKETHIS...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
> My, but it's fun, though, innit?


Depends on your definition of "fun". I seem to recall spending an
hour falling in the water, getting on the board, standing up and
falling in again, again and again and again. It got old very quickly
for me.

Peter Brooks

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
> My, but it's fun, though, innit?

For the first lesson it must have been interesting to try it in that
wind to say the least, specially if it was gusty.

steve auvache

In article <1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@ dsl.pipex.c
om>, The Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com>
writes
>By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
>Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
>knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
>board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.

Did that very thing in Majorca and managed to stay on the board long
enough to turn it round once before I fell off.

>
>My, but it's fun, though, innit?

I am still convinced the engine had fallen off my board and would have
performed much better with it reattached.


--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

The Older Gentleman

Peter Brooks <peter.d.brooks@gmail.com.arse> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
> >
> > Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> > knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> > board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
> >
> > My, but it's fun, though, innit?
>
> For the first lesson it must have been interesting to try it in that
> wind to say the least, specially if it was gusty.

My daughter, who's done it successfully in still water in the UK, said
it was *totally* different. The instructor did say that if you could
learn to windsurf in Rhodes' winds and waves, you could windsurf
anywhere....


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AW

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> The instructor did say that if you could
> learn to windsurf in Rhodes' winds and waves, you could windsurf
> anywhere....


That was my excuse too - I tried it on the Atlantic coast of Senegal.
Pretty choppy so didn't really make it easy for myself.

Peter Brooks

The Older Gentleman wrote:
<snip>

>
> My daughter, who's done it successfully in still water in the UK, said
> it was *totally* different. The instructor did say that if you could
> learn to windsurf in Rhodes' winds and waves, you could windsurf
> anywhere....

He's not far wrong. I used to teach and when we had those conditions it
was chaos, spent most of the time rescuing people while wishing I could
get out there and just play instead. Still, the look on peoples faces
when they got the board onto the plane for the first time was worth it.

Tosspot

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
> My, but it's fun, though, innit?

Foot position is 75% of it, the other 25% is commitment. Once the thing
is moving it's fairly easy, until you come to turn around of course.

I was at Dahab last year, first time on a board in about 8. Modern
boards are very different from my day, but funny enough, rigs haven't
changed at all, although no one seems to use camber inducers anymore.
Was a great laugh though, and took a quad bike into the desert on a day
off (Delhi belly).

The Older Gentleman

Peter Brooks <peter.d.brooks@gmail.com.arse> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >
> > My daughter, who's done it successfully in still water in the UK, said
> > it was *totally* different. The instructor did say that if you could
> > learn to windsurf in Rhodes' winds and waves, you could windsurf
> > anywhere....
>
> He's not far wrong. I used to teach and when we had those conditions it
> was chaos, spent most of the time rescuing people while wishing I could
> get out there and just play instead. Still, the look on peoples faces
> when they got the board onto the plane for the first time was worth it.

I've gotta give it another go. No time this holiday, but maybe next.

And learning in the UK just doesn't appeal.

Where did you teach, then?


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"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message
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> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> My, but it's fun, though, innit?
>
St Tropez found me going one direction only
then having to sheepishly be brought back to shore by
a speedboat, along with 3 or 4 others in the same boat/board
--
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Whinging Courier

In article <1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com>,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com says...

> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.

Went lower still when you got out

Ferger

The Older Gentleman secured a place in history by writing:

> My daughter, who's done it successfully in still water in the UK,

<Fnaar>

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F

Sprint RS "Big Yellow"
COO#1

Peter Brooks

The Older Gentleman wrote:
<snip>

>
> I've gotta give it another go. No time this holiday, but maybe next.
>
> And learning in the UK just doesn't appeal.
>
> Where did you teach, then?
>

Lac Leman (Lake Geneva). When "la bise" wind kicks in from the north
east the chop at the Geneva end of the lake can get quite interesting.
Combined with a Force 5+ and its either lots of fun or a nightmare
depending on your experience.

Roger Hunt

Whinging Courier wrote
>In article <1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%
>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com>,
>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com says...
>
>> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
>Went lower still when you got out

.... and then (prepares to take cover), the indignity of, while
sunbathing, having the Whale Rescue Squad turn up and trying to entice
one back into the Ocean.
--
Roger Hunt

raden

In message
<1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@ dsl.pipex.com>, The
Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
>Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
>knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
>board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
>My, but it's fun, though, innit?
>
Are you down the bottom corner where the two seas meet ?

Yeah - a tad breezy ...

I first tried off the south coast of Crete - spent an hour digging sea
urchin spikes out of my feet


--
geoff

Monkey

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay
> on board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.

Right - my area of expertise at last.

Uphauling: feet equidistant either side of the mast, along the centreline of
the board, or slightly back from it. Crouch down, back straight. Take hold
of the uphaul rope. *Slowly* pull the sail out of the water (remember the
water's holding it down, so give it time to run off), by straightening your
legs, keeping your back straight. Let the sail hang loose, so that its
weight turns the board so the board is at 90 degrees to the wind, and the
sail is hanging downwind.

Pull up the rope, then take hold of mast with front hand (hand nearest the
front of the board). Keeping back arm pretty much straight, move mast across
you body with the front hand, and bring the boom to your back hand.

Now - important bit - the Centre of Effort (CE) is the point the sail pulls
from. With both hands on the boom, if there's an even pull in both, the CE
is half-way between them. It's generally about a foot and a half down the
boom from the mast. Remember this point. If the CE is in front of the mast,
it will push the nose of the board downwind, and you'll turn downwind. If
it's behind the mast, it''ll push the tail of the board downwind, and you'll
head upwind. That's how you steer at low speeds.

So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front hand on
the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast such that the
centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly towards the front of the
board from you (the mast will be leaning a bit towards the front of the
board at this point), then gradually pull in with your back hand to increase
the power, and off you go.

Here endeth the first lesson.

--
ZX6R F2 - The Gravelseeker
BOTAFOT #121, BBB #2

Peter Brooks

Monkey wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>>
>> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
>> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay
>> on board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
<snip>

> So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front
hand on the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast such
that the centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly towards the
front of the board from you (the mast will be leaning a bit towards the
front of the board at this point), then gradually pull in with your back
hand to increase the power, and off you go.

That'll work but the best bet is to actually grab the mast with the back
hand after uphauling (front hand at the top of the uphaul) and swing
boom/mast across body to grab boom with front hand. The mast is not a
good grab point and should not be used for long. Pull in with the back
hand while the front is on the mast and the sail will may be ripped from
you.

Bod43@hotmail.co.uk

On 5 Aug, 23:15, Peter Brooks <peter.d.bro...@com.gmail.arse> wrote:
> Monkey wrote:
>
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
> >>
> >> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> >> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay
> >> on board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
> <snip>
>
> > So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front
> hand on the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast such
> that the centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly towards the
> front of the board from you (the mast will be leaning a bit towards the
> front of the board at this point), then gradually pull in with your back
> hand to increase the power, and off you go.
>
> That'll work but the best bet is to actually grab the mast with the back
> hand after uphauling (front hand at the top of the uphaul) and swing
> boom/mast across body to grab boom with front hand. The mast is not a
> good grab point and should not be used for long. Pull in with the back
> hand while the front is on the mast and the sail will may be ripped from
> you.

Good luck wif ze boarding.

Not at all easy but is very rewarding once you get going.

It's the toughest thing I have ever done (Including
becoming a ski instructor at the age of 4x which was in itself
not at all easy).

I managed to get to the waterstarting bit, but never
mastered turning round in the sea. That is unless
of course the sea was pretending to be a lake for
a while.

Keep at it and it will come - as the actress......
may say to you one day.

The Older Gentleman

Monkey <monkey@surfR3M0VEbum.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Here endeth the first lesson.

Yeah, I was told all that. Much good it did me....


--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
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Tosspot

Monkey wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>>By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>>
>>Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
>>knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay
>>on board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
>
> Right - my area of expertise at last.
>
> Uphauling: feet equidistant either side of the mast, along the centreline of
> the board, or slightly back from it. Crouch down, back straight. Take hold
> of the uphaul rope. *Slowly* pull the sail out of the water (remember the
> water's holding it down, so give it time to run off), by straightening your
> legs, keeping your back straight. Let the sail hang loose, so that its
> weight turns the board so the board is at 90 degrees to the wind, and the
> sail is hanging downwind.

It's not the weight. The sail still has a CofE even completely
feathered. Angling if forward or back will steer the board. I used to
advise getting it a bit off the wind as beginners tend to luff badly at
the next stage.

> Pull up the rope, then take hold of mast with front hand (hand nearest the
> front of the board). Keeping back arm pretty much straight, move mast across
> you body with the front hand, and bring the boom to your back hand.

If you can, grabbing the boom instead of the mast makes lfe easier.

> Now - important bit - the Centre of Effort (CE) is the point the sail pulls
> from. With both hands on the boom, if there's an even pull in both, the CE
> is half-way between them. It's generally about a foot and a half down the
> boom from the mast. Remember this point. If the CE is in front of the mast,
> it will push the nose of the board downwind, and you'll turn downwind. If
> it's behind the mast, it''ll push the tail of the board downwind, and you'll
> head upwind. That's how you steer at low speeds.

Your a bit confused, the board steers off the plane by a combination of
board weighting and by the CofE wrt to the centre of lateral resistance
of the board. Again, at the point you try to get the sail working, a
lot of beginners step back, adding to the tendency to luff up.

> So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front hand on
> the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast such that the
> centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly towards the front of the
> board from you (the mast will be leaning a bit towards the front of the
> board at this point), then gradually pull in with your back hand to increase
> the power, and off you go.

This bit is the crucial bit, move from the safe[1] position to sailing
in one, smooth, commited movement. I always used to say if you pull the
sail in on top of you I'm happy, let go of it to leeward and beatings
with lanyards will result.

My tuppence worth, from someone sat in the middle of a bay thinking 'I
hope I can remember how this waterstart works'. Fortunately yes, it
*is* easier than uphauling!

[1] Who dreamed up that name? Do they still use it of have they renamed
it 'the unstable' position?

Monkey

Peter Brooks wrote:
> Monkey wrote:

>> So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front
> hand on the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast such
> that the centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly towards the
> front of the board from you (the mast will be leaning a bit towards
> the front of the board at this point), then gradually pull in with
> your back hand to increase the power, and off you go.
>
> That'll work but the best bet is to actually grab the mast with the
> back hand after uphauling (front hand at the top of the uphaul) and
> swing boom/mast across body to grab boom with front hand. The mast is
> not a good grab point and should not be used for long. Pull in with
> the back hand while the front is on the mast and the sail will may be
> ripped from you.

IME, front hand on mast works better for most people on their first few
runs - possibly because they like the comfort of being able to drop back to
the secure position easily, if things go pear-shaped. That and it's one less
hand to worry about moving. Certainly both hands on the boom is better once
you're comfortable with it though.

--
ZX6R F2 - The Gravelseeker
BOTAFOT #121, BBB #2

Monkey

Tosspot wrote:
> Monkey wrote:

>> Uphauling: feet equidistant either side of the mast, along the
>> centreline of the board, or slightly back from it. Crouch down, back
>> straight. Take hold of the uphaul rope. *Slowly* pull the sail out
>> of the water (remember the water's holding it down, so give it time
>> to run off), by straightening your legs, keeping your back straight.
>> Let the sail hang loose, so that its weight turns the board so the
>> board is at 90 degrees to the wind, and the sail is hanging downwind.
>
> It's not the weight. The sail still has a CofE even completely
> feathered.

Yeah, OK, but I was just putting it in terms I thought a beginner would
understand better. To be complete, it's actually the weight of the sail
pushing against the wind that allows the turn ('cos you're not using your
back hand to 'sheet in' in that position).

>> Now - important bit - the Centre of Effort (CE) is the point the
>> sail pulls from. With both hands on the boom, if there's an even
>> pull in both, the CE is half-way between them. It's generally about
>> a foot and a half down the boom from the mast. Remember this point.
>> If the CE is in front of the mast, it will push the nose of the
>> board downwind, and you'll turn downwind. If it's behind the mast,
>> it''ll push the tail of the board downwind, and you'll head upwind.
>> That's how you steer at low speeds.
>
> Your a bit confused,

Nah - just a typo. I meant to say 'If the CE is in front of the mast base',
which - while not technically correct - will give beginners a reasonable
idea of what they're aiming for. I didn't want to start waffling on about
CLEs, though I take your point about weight shifts screwing up a lot of
first-timers.

>> So - once you've bought the boom to your back hand, with your front
>> hand on the mast, both arms pretty much straight, angle the mast
>> such that the centre of effort is in front of you, and slightly
>> towards the front of the board from you (the mast will be leaning a
>> bit towards the front of the board at this point), then gradually
>> pull in with your back hand to increase the power, and off you go.
>
> This bit is the crucial bit, move from the safe[1] position to sailing
> in one, smooth, commited movement. I always used to say if you pull
> the sail in on top of you I'm happy, let go of it to leeward and
> beatings with lanyards will result.

> [1] Who dreamed up that name? Do they still use it of have they
> renamed it 'the unstable' position?

Beginners' kit these days is so massively wide, I'm guessing it's a lot more
stable a position than it was when I (and I'm guessing you) learnt.

--
ZX6R F2 - The Gravelseeker
BOTAFOT #121, BBB #2

R

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message
news:1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com...
> By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
>
> Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
>
> My, but it's fun, though, innit?

So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?

Bear

In article <5hqf8iF3lmnbaU1@mid.individual.net>, R says...
>
> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com...
> > By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
> >
> > Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> > knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> > board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
> >
> > My, but it's fun, though, innit?
>
> So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?

Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.

*plonk*
--
Bear

Ace

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:53:36 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <5hqf8iF3lmnbaU1@mid.individual.net>, R says...

>> So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?
>
>Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.

Not disputing this, but how can you tell?

--
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\`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10
`\\ | //'
`\|/`
`

Pip

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:58:43 +0200, Ace <seesig@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:53:36 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <5hqf8iF3lmnbaU1@mid.individual.net>, R says...
>
>>> So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?
>>
>>Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.
>
>Not disputing this, but how can you tell?

It's a gift.

"Robbo Radar", the Pillock Protection System that actually works.
Less effective than poking your eyes out, but generally more
acceptable.

--
Pip: B12

Champ

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:27:42 +0100, Pip
<gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>>>Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.
>>
>>Not disputing this, but how can you tell?
>
>It's a gift.
>
>"Robbo Radar", the Pillock Protection System that actually works.
>Less effective than poking your eyes out, but generally more
>acceptable.

Can't we chop his hands off?
--
Champ
I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Pip

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:04:42 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:27:42 +0100, Pip
><gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.
>>>
>>>Not disputing this, but how can you tell?
>>
>>It's a gift.
>>
>>"Robbo Radar", the Pillock Protection System that actually works.
>>Less effective than poking your eyes out, but generally more
>>acceptable.
>
>Can't we chop his hands off?

Can we pull his tongue out afterwards?

--
Pip: B12

Hog

Pip wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:04:42 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:27:42 +0100, Pip
>> <gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.
>>>>
>>>> Not disputing this, but how can you tell?
>>>
>>> It's a gift.
>>>
>>> "Robbo Radar", the Pillock Protection System that actually works.
>>> Less effective than poking your eyes out, but generally more
>>> acceptable.
>>
>> Can't we chop his hands off?
>
> Can we pull his tongue out afterwards?

You realise Zym sings his praises and thinks you are Very Naughty Boys,
don't you

--
Hog

ogden

Pip wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:04:42 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:27:42 +0100, Pip
> ><gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"Robbo Radar", the Pillock Protection System that actually works.
> >>Less effective than poking your eyes out, but generally more
> >>acceptable.
> >
> >Can't we chop his hands off?
>
> Can we pull his tongue out afterwards?

Break him on the wheel!

--
ogden
sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike

Bear

In article <tv5gb3l13s61kr70urn3m188kt9cq8mvb6@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:53:36 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <5hqf8iF3lmnbaU1@mid.individual.net>, R says...
>
> >> So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?
> >
> >Yet another Robbo The Nobbo sock puppet.
>
> Not disputing this, but how can you tell?

Look at the headers. Then go back and compare them with those from the
clueless, spineless twat's previous outpourings.
--
Bear

Whinging Courier

In article <5hqf8iF3lmnbaU1@mid.individual.net>, None@here.net says...

>
> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1i2dctz.1xhc1b9lod0aqN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com...
> > By swallowing about a quarter of it in my first windsurfing lesson.
> >
> > Note for those who Know How To Do It: Rhodees is effing windy. 16-18
> > knot wind, apparently. After an hour and 45 euros I'd managed to stay on
> > board for about 15 seconds and move a couple of metres.
> >
> > My, but it's fun, though, innit?
>
> So starting a Tsunami with your falls into the water is fun ?

You're a funny bloke. Give us a ring, will ya