Re: Mobiles

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one stolen
>in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit.
>
>I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the
>first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume.
>
>Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ...
>
>... what do I want to negotiate next?

Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
fully working phone.
--
ZX-10R

In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says...
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one stolen
> >in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit.
> >
> >I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the
> >first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume.
> >
> >Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ...
> >
> >... what do I want to negotiate next?
>
> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
> fully working phone.

That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh,
and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was
supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this replacement K800i is
buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a year ago, wasn't. Go
figure.
--
Bear

In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t,
Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith;
> In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says...
>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one
>>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit.
>>>
>>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the
>>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume.
>>>
>>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ...
>>>
>>> ... what do I want to negotiate next?
>>
>> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
>> fully working phone.
>
> That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted
> dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work
> when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this
> replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a
> year ago, wasn't. Go figure.

I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos.
Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done.

--
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9

Currently listening to The Fools - Enjoy it!

Pete M <pete.murray@bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder.co. uk> wrote:
> In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t,
> Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith;
>> In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says...
>>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one
>>>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit.
>>>>
>>>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the
>>>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume.
>>>>
>>>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ...
>>>>
>>>> ... what do I want to negotiate next?
>>>
>>> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
>>> fully working phone.
>>
>> That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted
>> dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work
>> when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this
>> replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a
>> year ago, wasn't. Go figure.
>
> I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos.
> Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done.

AOL. Mine integrates perfectly with my Mac, keeps calendar up-to-date,
does ~iPod Nano (I added a 4 GB data wotsit), has a huge SMS memory, takes
decentish photos [1], and part of the 4GB is set aside for a secure disk
image, so I backup important stuff, and it's a USB key too, so I get to
print out stuff at the school (I don't have a printer here).

The bees' knees, really.

D.

[1] http://coughlan.fr/weird_triumph.jpg
--
des | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!'
BMW K100-LT

In article <f8us4h$mad$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Pete M says...
> In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t,
> Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith;
> > In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says...
> >> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one
> >>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit.
> >>>
> >>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the
> >>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume.
> >>>
> >>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ...
> >>>
> >>> ... what do I want to negotiate next?
> >>
> >> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
> >> fully working phone.
> >
> > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted
> > dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work
> > when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this
> > replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a
> > year ago, wasn't. Go figure.
>
> I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos.
> Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done.

I've got one in a drawer somewhere, but it's not a patch on the K800i,
sorry. At least, not for what I use it for [1]

[1] phone, camera, gmail via java ap
--
Bear

Bear wrote:
> > Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
> > fully working phone.
>
> That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh,
> and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was
> supposed to work in the first place.

if you want techie *and* pikey:

http://openmoko.org/

supposed to work sometime later in the year.
--
dog
sl1000 two#5

In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...
> Bear wrote:
> > > Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice,
> > > fully working phone.
> >
> > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh,
> > and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was
> > supposed to work in the first place.
>
> if you want techie *and* pikey:
>
> http://openmoko.org/
>
> supposed to work sometime later in the year.

But have they said which year?

It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D.
person will be completely unable to access

--
Bear

Bear wrote:
> > if you want techie *and* pikey:
> >
> > http://openmoko.org/
> >
> > supposed to work sometime later in the year.
>
> But have they said which year?
>
> It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D.
> person will be completely unable to access

indeed.

i especially liked the instructions for dialling a number:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM
--
dog
sl1000 two#5

In article <46b3056f$0$31717$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...
> Bear wrote:
> > > if you want techie *and* pikey:
> > >
> > > http://openmoko.org/
> > >
> > > supposed to work sometime later in the year.
> >
> > But have they said which year?
> >
> > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D.
> > person will be completely unable to access

>
> indeed.
>
> i especially liked the instructions for dialling a number:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM

lol!

We laugh because it's funny ...
--
Bear

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:57:47 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote in <MPG.211d0c75d02ae58b98a349@news.individual.net> :
> In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...

>> if you want techie *and* pikey:

>> http://openmoko.org/

>> supposed to work sometime later in the year.

> But have they said which year?

> It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D.
> person will be completely unable to access

<Ahem!> I can't work a mobile phone...

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

In article <slrnfb6668.3ck.Ivan.Reid@loki.brunel.ac.uk>, Dr Ivan D. Reid
says...
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:57:47 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote in <MPG.211d0c75d02ae58b98a349@news.individual.net> :
> > In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...
>
> >> if you want techie *and* pikey:
>
> >> http://openmoko.org/
>
> >> supposed to work sometime later in the year.
>
> > But have they said which year?
>
> > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D.
> > person will be completely unable to access

>
> <Ahem!> I can't work a mobile phone...

Yes, but you're just odd.
--
Bear

deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> Ben <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message
> <1h78b3d9r7ln8c2fjtep2r0egdejqk4kp4@4ax.com>:
>
> > Fair enough, but I've found Orange do seem to have more stuff
> > changed than other networks. And they seem to be more buggy.
>
> Well, a cynic would suggest that the terminal manufacturers wanted it
> that way.

Never assign to malice, etc. Having worked with them, most OEMs & ODMs
spend the last week before setting the production line off building the
3rd party parts into the rom, and the last 30 seconds of that week
adding the network specific features.

--
"I dunno, I never met the chick."

	#1
Ben	Re: Mobiles On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote: >Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one stolen >in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit. > >I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the >first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume. > >Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ... > >... what do I want to negotiate next? Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, fully working phone. -- ZX-10R

	#2
Bear	Re: Mobiles In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says... > On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one stolen > >in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit. > > > >I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the > >first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume. > > > >Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ... > > > >... what do I want to negotiate next? > > Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, > fully working phone. That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a year ago, wasn't. Go figure. -- Bear

	#3
Pete M	Re: Mobiles In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith; > In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says... >> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one >>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit. >>> >>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the >>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume. >>> >>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ... >>> >>> ... what do I want to negotiate next? >> >> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, >> fully working phone. > > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted > dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work > when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this > replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a > year ago, wasn't. Go figure. I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos. Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done. -- Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale) OMF#9 Currently listening to The Fools - Enjoy it!

	#4
Des	Re: Mobiles Pete M <pete.murray@bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder.co. uk> wrote: > In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t, > Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith; >> In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says... >>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one >>>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit. >>>> >>>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the >>>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume. >>>> >>>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ... >>>> >>>> ... what do I want to negotiate next? >>> >>> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, >>> fully working phone. >> >> That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted >> dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work >> when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this >> replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a >> year ago, wasn't. Go figure. > > I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos. > Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done. AOL. Mine integrates perfectly with my Mac, keeps calendar up-to-date, does ~iPod Nano (I added a 4 GB data wotsit), has a huge SMS memory, takes decentish photos [1], and part of the 4GB is set aside for a secure disk image, so I backup important stuff, and it's a USB key too, so I get to print out stuff at the school (I don't have a printer here). The bees' knees, really. D. [1] http://coughlan.fr/weird_triumph.jpg -- des \| 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT

	#5
Bear	Re: Mobiles In article <f8us4h$mad$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Pete M says... > In news:MPG.211d02df63ee209c98a342@news.individual.ne t, > Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith; > > In article <uno5b39l6ndv53p0mq0a1l0shg1tbqgqv8@4ax.com>, Ben says... > >> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:06:53 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, so, despite having just scored a new K800i to replace the one > >>> stolen in Cuba, Orange seem determined t5o flog me a new unit. > >>> > >>> I like the K800i, but this one appears more finicky to use than the > >>> first, and more flaky. Firmware, I presume. > >>> > >>> Plus, it's ugly as sin, and large to boot, so ... > >>> > >>> ... what do I want to negotiate next? > >> > >> Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, > >> fully working phone. > > > > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted > > dosh, and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work > > when it was supposed to work in the first place. Weirdly, this > > replacement K800i is buggy, whereas the first one I had, nearly a > > year ago, wasn't. Go figure. > > I'm still using a K750i. It's still brilliant, and dirt cheap from Tescos. > Just spend a tenner getting it unlocked and job done. I've got one in a drawer somewhere, but it's not a patch on the K800i, sorry. At least, not for what I use it for [1] [1] phone, camera, gmail via java ap -- Bear

	#6
dog	Re: Mobiles Bear wrote: > > Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, > > fully working phone. > > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh, > and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was > supposed to work in the first place. if you want techie and pikey: http://openmoko.org/ supposed to work sometime later in the year. -- dog sl1000 two#5

	#7
Bear	Re: Mobiles In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says... > Bear wrote: > > > Don't bother, just patch it to the K810i firmware and enjoy a nice, > > > fully working phone. > > > > That sounds so techie, and that site you put up a while ago wanted dosh, > > and I don't see why I should pay out to make something work when it was > > supposed to work in the first place. > > if you want techie and pikey: > > http://openmoko.org/ > > supposed to work sometime later in the year. But have they said which year? It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D. person will be completely unable to access -- Bear

	#8
dog	Re: Mobiles Bear wrote: > > if you want techie and pikey: > > > > http://openmoko.org/ > > > > supposed to work sometime later in the year. > > But have they said which year? > > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D. > person will be completely unable to access indeed. i especially liked the instructions for dialling a number: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM -- dog sl1000 two#5

	#9
Bear	Re: Mobiles In article <46b3056f$0$31717$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says... > Bear wrote: > > > if you want techie and pikey: > > > > > > http://openmoko.org/ > > > > > > supposed to work sometime later in the year. > > > > But have they said which year? > > > > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D. > > person will be completely unable to access > > indeed. > > i especially liked the instructions for dialling a number: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM lol! We laugh because it's funny ... -- Bear

	#10
Dr Ivan D. Reid	Re: Mobiles On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:57:47 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in <MPG.211d0c75d02ae58b98a349@news.individual.net> : > In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says... >> if you want techie and pikey: >> http://openmoko.org/ >> supposed to work sometime later in the year. > But have they said which year? > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D. > person will be completely unable to access <Ahem!> I can't work a mobile phone... -- Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk\|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

	#11
Bear	Re: Mobiles In article <slrnfb6668.3ck.Ivan.Reid@loki.brunel.ac.uk>, Dr Ivan D. Reid says... > On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:57:47 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> > wrote in <MPG.211d0c75d02ae58b98a349@news.individual.net> : > > In article <46b2f7b1$0$24745$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says... > > >> if you want techie and pikey: > > >> http://openmoko.org/ > > >> supposed to work sometime later in the year. > > > But have they said which year? > > > It'll have loads of fantastic features ... which your average, non Ph.D. > > person will be completely unable to access > > <Ahem!> I can't work a mobile phone... Yes, but you're just odd. -- Bear

	#12
Simian	Re: Mobiles deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote: > Ben <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message > <1h78b3d9r7ln8c2fjtep2r0egdejqk4kp4@4ax.com>: > > > Fair enough, but I've found Orange do seem to have more stuff > > changed than other networks. And they seem to be more buggy. > > Well, a cynic would suggest that the terminal manufacturers wanted it > that way. Never assign to malice, etc. Having worked with them, most OEMs & ODMs spend the last week before setting the production line off building the 3rd party parts into the rom, and the last 30 seconds of that week adding the network specific features. -- "I dunno, I never met the chick."