Steve Parry

In news:gqcte0dp0rh93mde9p2v103t5cjli2l5ju@4ax.com,
Mike Barnard <m.barnard.trousers@thunderin.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and
fingered:
> Hi.
>
> Looking to MAYBE get a dedicated data line. An "E3" line (whatever
> one of those is) has been mentioned but I can find no info about them.
> What exactly are they, how much do they cost, etc. All my searches
> have come up with line interfaces and setup instructions that mean
> nothing, yet.
>
> I've been on the dog to BT all afternoon and not yet found anyone who
> knows what anything other than what an ADSL or ISDN line is.
>
> Anyone give me some info about data lines or where I can find such,
> please?
>
> As usual, thanks in advance.


E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?

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ogden

Steve Parry wrote:
>
> In news:gqcte0dp0rh93mde9p2v103t5cjli2l5ju@4ax.com,
> Mike Barnard <m.barnard.trousers@thunderin.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and
> fingered:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Looking to MAYBE get a dedicated data line. An "E3" line (whatever
> > one of those is) has been mentioned but I can find no info about them.
> > What exactly are they, how much do they cost, etc. All my searches
> > have come up with line interfaces and setup instructions that mean
> > nothing, yet.
> >
> E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?
>
Not unless he's in the US or Japan. But this is UKRM, so carry on...

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Ben Blaney

Steve Parry wrote:

>E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?

Not in the UK, he doesn't.

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Ben Blaney

ogden wrote:

>Ben Blaney wrote:
>>
>> Steve Parry wrote:
>>
>> >E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?
>>
>> Not in the UK, he doesn't.
>>
>Strictly speaking, you can get a DS3 in the UK.

Well, yes. It's just that people in the UK so often say "T1" when they
mean "E1". Not that it really matters. It's my last legacy of an
annoyance from a former life.

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ogden

Ben Blaney wrote:
>
> ogden wrote:
>
> >Ben Blaney wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve Parry wrote:
> >>
> >> >E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?
> >>
> >> Not in the UK, he doesn't.
> >>
> >Strictly speaking, you can get a DS3 in the UK.
>
> Well, yes. It's just that people in the UK so often say "T1" when they
> mean "E1". Not that it really matters. It's my last legacy of an
> annoyance from a former life.
>
People often say "T1" when they mean "don't ever let me near a network
again, as I clearly haven't the foggiest and am probably downright
dangerous"

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Muck

ogden wrote:

> Ben Blaney wrote:
>
>>ogden wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve Parry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>E1 ... E3 ... do you mean T1 and T3 ?
>>>>
>>>>Not in the UK, he doesn't.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Strictly speaking, you can get a DS3 in the UK.
>>
>>Well, yes. It's just that people in the UK so often say "T1" when they
>>mean "E1". Not that it really matters. It's my last legacy of an
>>annoyance from a former life.
>>
>
> People often say "T1" when they mean "don't ever let me near a network
> again, as I clearly haven't the foggiest and am probably downright
> dangerous"
>

I thought it was manager speak for an E1.

Doc Gonz0

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:52:00 +0100, Muck <muck@dsl_TEETH_.pipex.com>
wrote:

>ogden wrote:
>
>> People often say "T1" when they mean "don't ever let me near a network
>> again, as I clearly haven't the foggiest and am probably downright
>> dangerous"
>>
>
>I thought it was manager speak for an E1.

That's what he said, isn't it?
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Doc Gonz0 <ukrm@cluebyfour.co.uk> wrote in message
<legve0lucui2so50jtlg9nf663f7q4s12d@4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:52:00 +0100, Muck <muck@dsl_TEETH_.pipex.com>
>wrote:
>
>>ogden wrote:
>>
>>> People often say "T1" when they mean "don't ever let me near a network
>>> again, as I clearly haven't the foggiest and am probably downright
>>> dangerous"
>>>
>>
>>I thought it was manager speak for an E1.
>
>That's what he said, isn't it?

Eh? I thought the T1 was the US version whereas the E1 was the European,
all based on the number of PCM TS multiplexed in. Still it's safest to
assume that I don't know anything about this thesedays.
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ogden

deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>
> Doc Gonz0 <ukrm@cluebyfour.co.uk> wrote in message
> <legve0lucui2so50jtlg9nf663f7q4s12d@4ax.com>:
>
> >On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:52:00 +0100, Muck <muck@dsl_TEETH_.pipex.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>ogden wrote:
> >>
> >>> People often say "T1" when they mean "don't ever let me near a network
> >>> again, as I clearly haven't the foggiest and am probably downright
> >>> dangerous"
> >>
> >>I thought it was manager speak for an E1.
> >
> >That's what he said, isn't it?
>
> Eh? I thought the T1 was the US version whereas the E1 was the European,
> all based on the number of PCM TS multiplexed in. Still it's safest to
> assume that I don't know anything about this thesedays.

I think he's suggesting that managers are the kind of people who should
never bet let near, etc.

But you're pretty much correct. A T1 (DS1) can be channelised into a PRI of
24 DS0s at 64Kbps while an E1 PRI provides 30ish DS0s, hence the 1.536Mbps
and 2.048Mbps aggregates respectively. Though it's been a while since I
actually had to deal with anything that small and I'm sure there are B
channels in there somewhere.

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sweller

ogden wrote:

> But you're pretty much correct. A T1 (DS1) can be channelised into a
> PRI of 24 DS0s at 64Kbps while an E1 PRI provides 30ish DS0s, hence the
> 1.536Mbps and 2.048Mbps aggregates respectively. Though it's been a
> while since I actually had to deal with anything that small and I'm
> sure there are B channels in there somewhere.

Hmm, that is purty mighty sounding gibberish.

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