Re: How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE?

On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:

> > Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving
>
> > Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just
> > obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles
> > (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a
> > game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are
> > bigger...

>
> You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never
> have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have
> to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep
> your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact.

You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted
windows.

If you are
> experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you
> are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly
> as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed.

If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or
could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the
phone, changing pampers, etc?

>
> You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the
> Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride.
>
> Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such a
> boat horn or something.-

How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE
(a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's
license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much
for the big business involved in SUVs...

On Aug 7, 12:16 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>
> > > Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving
>
> > > Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just
> > > obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles
> > > (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a
> > > game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are
> > > bigger...
>
> > You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never
> > have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have
> > to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep
> > your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact.
>
> You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted
> windows.
>
> If you are
>
> > experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you
> > are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly
> > as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed.
>
> If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or
> could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the
> phone, changing pampers, etc?
>
>
>
> > You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the
> > Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride.
>
> > Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such a
> > boat horn or something.-
>
> How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE
> (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's
> license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much
> for the big business involved in SUVs...

It would be quite difficult to administer a driving test to a Truck
wouldn't you say?

donquijote1954 wrote:
> On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>
>>> Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving
>>
>>> Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just
>>> obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles
>>> (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a
>>> game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are
>>> bigger...
>
>>
>> You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never
>> have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have
>> to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep
>> your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact.
>
> You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted
> windows.
>
> If you are
>> experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you
>> are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly
>> as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed.
>
> If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or
> could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the
> phone, changing pampers, etc?
>
>>
>> You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the
>> Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride.
>>
>> Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such
>> a boat horn or something.-
>
> How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE
> (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's
> license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much
> for the big business involved in SUVs...

Write a legal definition of "truck" so that it can be determined who has
to have such a license (can't be "everybody knows what a truck is", it
has to be one that a lawyer can't argue away in court) and figure out
what training should be required and come up with a convincing argument
why that particular training would improve safety then suggest it to
your Congresscritter and you may be surprised at what happens. SUVs are
basically a way of working around the CAFE tax and if that could be
closed wihout seeming to be an SUV ban until after it was in place the
Congresscritters might be all over it.

As for banning cell phones, that's not going to happen. That genii is
well and truly out of the bottle and any Congress than successfully
enacted legislation prohibiting their sale and possession would be out
of office at the next election.

As for bans on using them while driving, such bans are essentially
unenforceable--yeah, a cop can bust somebody if he catches them in the
act, but cops can't be everywhere all the time and most people who use
them while driving don't use them all the time, so the likelihood of
actually getting caught is too low to serve as a deterrent.

Personally though I've never noticed SUVs "zigzagging around all over
the place playing a game of Russian Roulette". The big problem I have
with them is that SUV drivers seem to be unwilling to just PASS THE
EFFING TRUCK. They'll pull up behind an 18-wheeler, take ten minutes to
slowly creep by it, and having passed it then take off at 90 mph. And
meanwhile I'm sitting there in the buffet zone waiting for this circus
to end so I can get by the blasted thing.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Aug 7, 1:20 pm, "John S." <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 12:16 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>
> > > > Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving
>
> > > > Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just
> > > > obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles
> > > > (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a
> > > > game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are
> > > > bigger...
>
> > > You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never
> > > have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have
> > > to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep
> > > your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact.
>
> > You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted
> > windows.
>
> > If you are
>
> > > experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you
> > > are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly
> > > as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed.
>
> > If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or
> > could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the
> > phone, changing pampers, etc?
>
> > > You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the
> > > Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride.
>
> > > Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such a
> > > boat horn or something.-
>
> > How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE
> > (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's
> > license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much
> > for the big business involved in SUVs...
>
> It would be quite difficult to administer a driving test to a Truck
> wouldn't you say?-

Trucks are usually as good/bad as their drivers, so yes, there's a
quite a bit of stupid trucks out there.

	#1
donquijote1954	Re: How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE? On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote: > > Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving > > > Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just > > obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles > > (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a > > game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are > > bigger... > > You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never > have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have > to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep > your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact. You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted windows. If you are > experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you > are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly > as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed. If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the phone, changing pampers, etc? > > You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the > Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride. > > Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such a > boat horn or something.- How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much for the big business involved in SUVs...

	#2
John S.	Re: How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE? On Aug 7, 12:16 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote: > > > > Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving > > > > Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just > > > obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles > > > (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a > > > game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are > > > bigger... > > > You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never > > have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have > > to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep > > your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact. > > You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted > windows. > > If you are > > > experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you > > are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly > > as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed. > > If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or > could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the > phone, changing pampers, etc? > > > > > You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the > > Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride. > > > Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such a > > boat horn or something.- > > How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE > (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's > license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much > for the big business involved in SUVs... It would be quite difficult to administer a driving test to a Truck wouldn't you say?

	#3
J. Clarke	Re: How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE? donquijote1954 wrote: > On Aug 6, 8:32 pm, Pat <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote: > >>> Zigzagging: Most Dangerous Driving >> >>> Don't ask me for a study that backs up such a statement, it's just >>> obvious. Every time you get on the road you see these wild vehicles >>> (usually SUVs and larger vehicles) zigzagging all around playing a >>> game of Russian Roulette --a game they always win since they are >>> bigger... > >> >> You guys always lose me with these SUVs are evil threads. I never >> have any problems with them when I'm on my motorcycle. You just have >> to drive your motorcycle like a car, following the same rules, keep >> your high beam on in the daytime, and make eye contact. > > You'll be lucky if you can make eye contact. Most of them have tinted > windows. > > If you are >> experiencing problems, I would guess it is one of three things: you >> are not keeping up to road speed, you are not accelerating as quickly >> as everyone else, or your bike just too small to be seen/noticed. > > If they can miss a scooter, what comfort there's for a bicycle? Or > could it be that they simply miss it because they are engaged on the > phone, changing pampers, etc? > >> >> You might want to consider something a bit bigger. I've ridden the >> Honda Silver Wing and that's a sweet ride. >> >> Other than that, the best you can do is get a really loud horn, such >> a boat horn or something.- > > How about requiring these TRUCKS to require a TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENSE > (a step above driving a regular car but not a fully semi driver's > license) and banning cell phones, etc? I guess that would be too much > for the big business involved in SUVs... Write a legal definition of "truck" so that it can be determined who has to have such a license (can't be "everybody knows what a truck is", it has to be one that a lawyer can't argue away in court) and figure out what training should be required and come up with a convincing argument why that particular training would improve safety then suggest it to your Congresscritter and you may be surprised at what happens. SUVs are basically a way of working around the CAFE tax and if that could be closed wihout seeming to be an SUV ban until after it was in place the Congresscritters might be all over it. As for banning cell phones, that's not going to happen. That genii is well and truly out of the bottle and any Congress than successfully enacted legislation prohibiting their sale and possession would be out of office at the next election. As for bans on using them while driving, such bans are essentially unenforceable--yeah, a cop can bust somebody if he catches them in the act, but cops can't be everywhere all the time and most people who use them while driving don't use them all the time, so the likelihood of actually getting caught is too low to serve as a deterrent. Personally though I've never noticed SUVs "zigzagging around all over the place playing a game of Russian Roulette". The big problem I have with them is that SUV drivers seem to be unwilling to just PASS THE EFFING TRUCK. They'll pull up behind an 18-wheeler, take ten minutes to slowly creep by it, and having passed it then take off at 90 mph. And meanwhile I'm sitting there in the buffet zone waiting for this circus to end so I can get by the blasted thing. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)