christofire

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Frog came back, swayed off thebike, staggered over to Andy, nearly
> weeping, flung his arms round him, gave him a kiss on both cheeks, and
> went into a long stream of animated French to his mates about what
> 85bhp more than anything he'd ever ridden felt like.

Another one sold then.

Sounds like a good trip, bar the swimming lesson at the start. Good to
see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.

--
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Andy Bonwick

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:05:40 +0000 (UTC), "christofire"
<chris@ukrm.org> wrote:

>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>> Frog came back, swayed off thebike, staggered over to Andy, nearly
>> weeping, flung his arms round him, gave him a kiss on both cheeks, and
>> went into a long stream of animated French to his mates about what
>> 85bhp more than anything he'd ever ridden felt like.
>
>Another one sold then.
>
>Sounds like a good trip, bar the swimming lesson at the start. Good to
>see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.

Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
and we can chalk it up as a success.

M J Carley

In the referenced article, Andy Bonwick <nospam@bonwick.me.uk> writes:

>Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
>and we can chalk it up as a success.

<Brian Hanrahan>
I counted them all out and I counted them all back in again.
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christofire

Andy Bonwick wrote:

> Good to
> > see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.
>
> Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
> and we can chalk it up as a success.

You noticed the deliberate choice of words then?

--
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TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 23 Jul, 16:50, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>
> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> better days..


Shame you didn't think this before setting out with it, innit? ;-)

To be fair, I should have recognised the smell, because I've whiffed a
boiled-out battery before.

Grimly Curmudgeon

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> saying something like:

>> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
>> dry?
>
>It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>better days..

I've always thought sealed batts were an exercise in hope; they're
exactly the same as a non-sealed one when slightly overcharged, as
you've found. Anyway, many of them are only a drillbit away from being
non-sealed and fully topped up.
--
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GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

ginge

wrote:
> On 23 Jul, 16:50, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> > better days..
>
>
> Shame you didn't think this before setting out with it, innit? ;-)

well, yes but it didn't smell before I left, and seemed to hold charge,
not sure how I could have known until the smell started up when I
stopped in Dover.. Maybe it just didn't want to go home.

> To be fair, I should have recognised the smell, because I've whiffed a
> boiled-out battery before.

I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
several times over the weekend and not realising.

Paul - xxx

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> saying something like:
>
>>> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
>>> dry?
>>
>> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>> better days..
>
> I've always thought sealed batts were an exercise in hope; they're
> exactly the same as a non-sealed one when slightly overcharged, as
> you've found. Anyway, many of them are only a drillbit away from being
> non-sealed and fully topped up.

'specially when it's already fecked anyway.

--
Paul - xxx

SD

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:19:37 +0100, Andy Bonwick
<nospam@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:


>Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
>and we can chalk it up as a success.

<waves> Left Mr Iggins at the Eurotunnel exit, and not sure if Platy
got on our train.
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On 23 Jul, 17:19, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> several times over the weekend and not realising.


And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
ingested?

TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 23 Jul, 17:26, SD <salad.dod...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:19:37 +0100, Andy Bonwick
>
> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:
> >Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
> >and we can chalk it up as a success.
>
> <waves> Left Mr Iggins at the Eurotunnel exit, and not sure if Platy
> got on our train.


Hoorah! No casualties! Makes you proud to be British.

dog

TOG toil chateau.murray btinternet.com wrote:
> > I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> > bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> > several times over the weekend and not realising.
>
> And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
> ingested?

given that it was a sealed battery...
--
dog
sl1000 two#5

ginge

wrote:
> On 23 Jul, 17:19, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> > bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> > several times over the weekend and not realising.
>
>
> And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
> ingested?

Actually I didn't drink much of that, a red, a blue, and the rest of the
time I was on cooking lager.

So I'm blaming the acid.

Bear

In article <MPG.210ef004d0f30950989a94@news.zen.co.uk>, ginge says...
> wrote:
> > On 23 Jul, 17:19, ginge <the.gingeREM...@THISgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think I'll rememebr it next time. I also seem to have a bit of a
> > > bunged up nose, I wonder if that's down to sniffing acid battery acid
> > > several times over the weekend and not realising.
> >
> >
> > And nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of Chimay Rouge you
> > ingested?
>
> Actually I didn't drink much of that, a red, a blue, and the rest of the
> time I was on cooking lager.
>
> So I'm blaming the acid.

It was baaaad acid, man.
--
Bear

Higgins

Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:05:40 +0000 (UTC), "christofire"
> <chris@ukrm.org> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>
>>> Frog came back, swayed off thebike, staggered over to Andy, nearly
>>> weeping, flung his arms round him, gave him a kiss on both cheeks, and
>>> went into a long stream of animated French to his mates about what
>>> 85bhp more than anything he'd ever ridden felt like.
>> Another one sold then.
>>
>> Sounds like a good trip, bar the swimming lesson at the start. Good to
>> see that everyone who set out to the place got to the place.
>
> Now all we need is the ones that stopped the extra night to get home
> and we can chalk it up as a success.
<waves soggily>

Hog

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember ginge
> <the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> saying something like:
>
>>> Had you or he put any liquid in it once you discovered it was boiled
>>> dry?
>>
>> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>> better days..
>
> I've always thought sealed batts were an exercise in hope; they're
> exactly the same as a non-sealed one when slightly overcharged, as
> you've found. Anyway, many of them are only a drillbit away from being
> non-sealed and fully topped up.

Gel or glass mat batteries *rock*

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Fr Jack

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

>Gel or glass mat batteries *rock*

They sure do!
--

Fr. Jack

The Un-Civil Servant

Cab

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:50:48 +0100, ginge wibbled:
> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> better days..

Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you problems?
--
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ginge

Cab wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:50:48 +0100, ginge wibbled:
> > It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
> > better days..
>
> Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you problems?

No. I've never owned a 5 year old bike before, and have never had
problems with batteries in cars I've owned 5 years.

sweller

ginge wrote:

> No. I've never owned a 5 year old bike before, and have never had
> problems with batteries in cars I've owned 5 years.

This battery big, has big life, this battery small, life not so big.

Five years is the rough rule of thumb lifespan for a medium sized car
battery. Bikes are proportionally less.

Having said that I've had over 6 out of a secondhand Guzzi battery, now
at 4 years on a 6v MZ one and "this battery has Swedish writing on it" on
a 15 year old SAAB.

It really depends on usage and maintenance.

--
Simon

SD

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:04:55 +0100, Cab <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:50:48 +0100, ginge wibbled:
>> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had seen
>> better days..
>
>Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you problems?

Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
stop-start low speed daily use.
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Cab

SD wrote:

> >> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had
> seen >> better days..
> >
> > Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you
> > problems?
>
> Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
> stop-start low speed daily use.

Is it a sealed battery too?

Mind you, I am surprised.

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SD

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:06:29 +0100, "Cab"
<my_email_address_is_in_my_sig@privacy.net> wrote:

>SD wrote:
>
>> >> It's a sealed battery, and over 5 years old, so no doubt it had
>> seen >> better days..
>> >
>> > Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you
>> > problems?
>>
>> Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
>> stop-start low speed daily use.
>
>Is it a sealed battery too?

Yes.

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Eddie

Cab wrote:
> SD wrote:
>
>>> Pillock. Didn't you think that a 5 y/o battery may give you
>>> problems?
>> Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
>> stop-start low speed daily use.
>
> Is it a sealed battery too?
>
> Mind you, I am surprised.

It's an Onda. It just works.

--
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http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm

CT

SD wrote:

> Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
> stop-start low speed daily use.
^^^^^^^^^
This helps. A lot.

--
Chris

Oily

"CT" <me@christrollen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0f95ngo28s0g000@news.individual.net...
> SD wrote:
>
> > Don't see why - the battery on the Blackbird lasted seven years of
> > stop-start low speed daily use.
> ^^^^^^^^^
> This helps. A lot.
>
>
Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't you be
better with a CG125? :-)

Oily

SD

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
<martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:


>Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't you be
>better with a CG125? :-)

I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
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sweller

SD wrote:

> > Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
> > you be better with a CG125? :-)
>
> I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.

You're not alone.

--
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NickNoxx

sweller wrote:
> SD wrote:
>
>>> Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
>>> you be better with a CG125? :-)
>> I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
>
> You're not alone.
>
You want to eat SD'd testicles?

ginge

NickNoxx wrote:
> sweller wrote:
> > SD wrote:
> >
> >>> Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
> >>> you be better with a CG125? :-)
> >> I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
> >
> > You're not alone.
> >
> You want to eat SD'd testicles?

Maybe he just wants to watch, and provide some company.

Hog

SD wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
> <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
>> you be better with a CG125? :-)
>
> I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.

Was that one racing at Chimay with a CB200 tank?

--
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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Doc Gonz0

SD <salad.dodger@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:5gsib9F3hgtopU1@mid.individual.net:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
> <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
>>you be better with a CG125? :-)
>
> I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.

And that is why you are a truly great man, Mr. Dodger.

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Doc Gonz0 <ukrm@cluebyfour.co.uk> wrote:

> SD <salad.dodger@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> news:5gsib9F3hgtopU1@mid.individual.net:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
> > <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
> >>you be better with a CG125? :-)
> >
> > I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
>
> And that is why you are a truly great man, Mr. Dodger.

<Sharpens stake>


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Oily

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message
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> Doc Gonz0 <ukrm@cluebyfour.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > SD <salad.dodger@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> > news:5gsib9F3hgtopU1@mid.individual.net:
> >
> > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
> > > <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Yebbut..... Blackbird?...... stop-start low speed?? Wouldn't
> > >>you be better with a CG125? :-)
> > >
> > > I would rather eat my own testicles than own a CG125.
> >
> > And that is why you are a truly great man, Mr. Dodger.
>
> <Sharpens stake>
>
Is this to roast the testicles on?

There's bugger all wrong with a CG for a commuter but I suppose after
contorting yourself to fit the ergonomics of most of today's plastic rockets
it would be quite easy to take them raw without the help of a knife. :-)

Oily

Champ

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:06:09 +0000 (UTC), crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
wrote:

>To conclude:- 50 bhp buys you 110 mph+ and can put a smile on your face.

This is true.

>Much over 60 bhp is never going to be used in practice on UK roads.

But this is utterly, utterly wrong. It might, perhaps, *just* apply
if you lived in the crowded south-east. I can easily use well over
100 bhp EVERY SINGLE TIME I ride my bike.
--
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To email me, neal at my domain should work.

Krusty

crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

> To conclude:- 50 bhp buys you 110 mph+ and can put a smile on your
> face. Much over 60 bhp is never going to be used in practice on UK
> roads. So IMHO the transport stops and the willywaving starts
> somewhere around 60 bhp.

What a stunningly blinkered point of view. How good do you imagine a
Goldwing loaded with two people & a fortnight's worth of clothes would
be with 60bhp? How much harder would it be to overtake a truck on a
twisty B-road on a 220Kg Tiger if it only had 60bhp (especially when
2-up)? It's not all about top speed you know - in fact it mostly isn't
about top speed.

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crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com

In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Krusty <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> What a stunningly blinkered point of view. How good do you imagine a
> Goldwing loaded with two people & a fortnight's worth of clothes would
> be with 60bhp? How much harder would it be to overtake a truck on a
> twisty B-road on a 220Kg Tiger if it only had 60bhp (especially when
> 2-up)? It's not all about top speed you know - in fact it mostly isn't
> about top speed.
>

You are coming tantalisingly close to the point.
In both of the above cases you are probably actually using less than
60 bhp because the manufacturers mythical 100bhp can only be produced
at peak RPM. What you need is GRUNT, otherwise known as plenty of
midrange torque. Unfortunately this bit of engineering reality does
not fit well with the marketing idea of "what sells bikes" so your
engines have been designed to produce big headline numbers rather
than practical useable power.

steve auvache

In article <8m5ma31k3p3o3llkam01pou6lu717l8bd4@4ax.com>, Champ
<news@champ.org.uk> writes
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:06:09 +0000 (UTC), crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
>wrote:
>
>>To conclude:- 50 bhp buys you 110 mph+ and can put a smile on your face.
>
>This is true.
>
>>Much over 60 bhp is never going to be used in practice on UK roads.
>
>But this is utterly, utterly wrong. It might, perhaps, *just* apply
>if you lived in the crowded south-east. I can easily use well over
>100 bhp EVERY SINGLE TIME I ride my bike.

Agree strongly.

I don't have 100bhp to use but in a similar context there are not many
rides I take where I don't use the 40 something bhp that is left after
the years and my improvements have taken their toll. If I had the 100+
horses available then I am confident I would agree totally with you.



--
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A Bloo one with built in safety features

Champ

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:51:08 +0000 (UTC), crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
wrote:

>In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Krusty <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>>
>> What a stunningly blinkered point of view. How good do you imagine a
>> Goldwing loaded with two people & a fortnight's worth of clothes would
>> be with 60bhp? How much harder