Re: Back Protectors

"flashgorman" <flashgorman@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Do you wear a seatbelt in your car[1] through fear or just because in the
>long run its more convient then having to keep getting back in the car after
>you been propelled through the windscreen.

I wear a seatbelt in the car, because in NI, the "wear a seatbelt" law
had just come in when I was learning to drive, and so I've never
really driven a car without one, so it feels "natural" to wear it.
Having said that, if I'm just driving round the block or something, I
won't bother to put it on (and boy, does a Jeep Cherokee scold you for
this!).

>Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with the concept of you riding your bike in
>whatever you want[1] but object with you taking issue with what other people
>choose to wear.

I don't take issue with what other people choose to wear. I do object
to people telling other people that they should wear "safety" gear at
all times. It's preachy, sanctimonious, and wooly-headed thinking.
--
d.

Dan White wrote:
>
> "darsy" <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:q0mn60dsorappkjf8em28qc0c3stg6747h@4ax.com...
> <snip>
> >
> > I don't take issue with what other people choose to wear. I do object
> > to people telling other people that they should wear "safety" gear at
> > all times. It's preachy, sanctimonious, and wooly-headed thinking.
>
> ISTR the head of a car company (possibly even Volvo) saying that the best
> method of reducing injuries from car accidents would be to have a foot long
> spike coming straight out of the steering wheel.
>
Did you see Fifth Gear this week?

Took a 2004 Espace and 1995 Espace, drove them into each other for
a driver-side head-on collision at 30mph a piece, and watched the
new '5 star ncap rated' motor tear through the old one.

Which was kind of comforting. Not.

--
ogden
gsf1200, chi#0, tppfatuicg#20, botafot#132

"bear baiting - so good it should be illegal"

"ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:406BE43E.3C229B8B@pre.org...
<snip>
> >
> Did you see Fifth Gear this week?

Nope.

> Took a 2004 Espace and 1995 Espace, drove them into each other for
> a driver-side head-on collision at 30mph a piece, and watched the
> new '5 star ncap rated' motor tear through the old one.
>
> Which was kind of comforting. Not.

"Darwinism in Motoring".

--
Dan White
(dan@finex666.org.uk)
Perform an exorcism when replying.

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:58:42 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk>
wrote:

>"flashgorman" <flashgorman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Do you wear a seatbelt in your car[1] through fear or just because in the
>>long run its more convient then having to keep getting back in the car after
>>you been propelled through the windscreen.
>
>I wear a seatbelt in the car, because in NI, the "wear a seatbelt" law
>had just come in when I was learning to drive, and so I've never
>really driven a car without one, so it feels "natural" to wear it.

That is *exactly* why I nearly always wear full kit on the bike. [1] I
just feel uncomfortable without. By the same token, I'll run it round
the corner in jeans and a t-shirt. I (nearly) always wear gloves cos
I like my hands, and nearly always wear boots (cos I don't wear shoes
in the house. If I've got to put something on anyway. I may as well
put the boots on)
I dislike riding in denim type jeans cos I find my arse slides around.

[1] Plus the fact that Rachel gives me less grief
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"flashgorman" <flashgorman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4gojn$2b1htt$1@ID-201048.news.uni-berlin.de...
<snip>
> >
>
> Were you wearing a back protector though?

Yes, about 12 feet of steel cage and a seat.

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Catman <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote:

>That is *exactly* why I nearly always wear full kit on the bike. [1] I
>just feel uncomfortable without. By the same token, I'll run it round
>the corner in jeans and a t-shirt. I (nearly) always wear gloves cos
>I like my hands, and nearly always wear boots (cos I don't wear shoes
>in the house. If I've got to put something on anyway. I may as well
>put the boots on)

I started riding with the bare minimum (IMO) of kit i.e. gloves and
lid. This still feels like what I should wear, and I've rarely rode
with less kit than this on. I didn't own leathers until about 9 months
after passing my test.

--
d.

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:08:41 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk>
wrote:

>Catman <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>That is *exactly* why I nearly always wear full kit on the bike. [1] I
>>just feel uncomfortable without. By the same token, I'll run it round
>>the corner in jeans and a t-shirt. I (nearly) always wear gloves cos
>>I like my hands, and nearly always wear boots (cos I don't wear shoes
>>in the house. If I've got to put something on anyway. I may as well
>>put the boots on)
>
>I started riding with the bare minimum (IMO) of kit i.e. gloves and
>lid. This still feels like what I should wear, and I've rarely rode
>with less kit than this on. I didn't own leathers until about 9 months
>after passing my test.

Different generation as well as skill level. I couldn't care less
what others wear frankly, and if I want to get hot and sweaty, that's
up to me

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deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message
><l3pn60ppoee1t229uc8l7c2nuc8gqcr2vk@4ax.com>:

>>Not riding drunk helps too, of course.
>
>Eh? I've had one of my worst accidents when pissed. It seemed to hurt
>the least too.
>
>If you're going to crash make sure you do it drunk.

sure.

I meant if you wanted to *not* crash, don't ride drunk.

--
d.

darsy wrote:
>
> I meant if you wanted to *not* crash, don't ride drunk.
>
See, you *are* Sir.Tony!

--
ogden
gsf1200, chi#0, tppfatuicg#20, botafot#132

"bear baiting - a bygone sport"

ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>>
>> I meant if you wanted to *not* crash, don't ride drunk.
>>
>See, you *are* Sir.Tony!

I'm fairly sure I'm not black.

--
d.

darsy wrote:
>
> ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>
> >darsy wrote:
> >>
> >> I meant if you wanted to *not* crash, don't ride drunk.
> >>
> >See, you *are* Sir.Tony!
>
> I'm fairly sure I'm not black.
>
You'd love it if you were.

--
ogden
gsf1200, chi#0, tppfatuicg#20, botafot#132

"bear baiting - a bygone sport"

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:19:51 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>>
>> ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>>
>> >darsy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I meant if you wanted to *not* crash, don't ride drunk.
>> >>
>> >See, you *are* Sir.Tony!
>>
>> I'm fairly sure I'm not black.
>>
>You'd love it if you were.

He's certainly too white to get down.
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darsy wrote:
>
> I started riding with the bare minimum (IMO) of kit i.e. gloves and
> lid. This still feels like what I should wear, and I've rarely rode
> with less kit than this on. I didn't own leathers until about 9 months
> after passing my test.

I bought my first leather jacket about five years after passing my test, by
which time I'd got most of the crashing out of the way.

--
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Triumph Trophy 1200 (pending)
VN800 Drifter (for sale)
R80RT (for sale - spares or repairs)
Z200 (Fear the Distance Monster!)
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	#1
darsy	Re: Back Protectors "flashgorman" <flashgorman@hotmail.com> wrote: >Do you wear a seatbelt in your car[1] through fear or just because in the >long run its more convient then having to keep getting back in the car after >you been propelled through the windscreen. I wear a seatbelt in the car, because in NI, the "wear a seatbelt" law had just come in when I was learning to drive, and so I've never really driven a car without one, so it feels "natural" to wear it. Having said that, if I'm just driving round the block or something, I won't bother to put it on (and boy, does a Jeep Cherokee scold you for this!). >Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with the concept of you riding your bike in >whatever you want[1] but object with you taking issue with what other people >choose to wear. I don't take issue with what other people choose to wear. I do object to people telling other people that they should wear "safety" gear at all times. It's preachy, sanctimonious, and wooly-headed thinking. -- d.

	#2
ogden	Re: Back Protectors Dan White wrote: > > "darsy" <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message > news:q0mn60dsorappkjf8em28qc0c3stg6747h@4ax.com... > <snip> > > > > I don't take issue with what other people choose to wear. I do object > > to people telling other people that they should wear "safety" gear at > > all times. It's preachy, sanctimonious, and wooly-headed thinking. > > ISTR the head of a car company (possibly even Volvo) saying that the best > method of reducing injuries from car accidents would be to have a foot long > spike coming straight out of the steering wheel. > Did you see Fifth Gear this week? Took a 2004 Espace and 1995 Espace, drove them into each other for a driver-side head-on collision at 30mph a piece, and watched the new '5 star ncap rated' motor tear through the old one. Which was kind of comforting. Not. -- ogden gsf1200, chi#0, tppfatuicg#20, botafot#132 "bear baiting - so good it should be illegal"

	#3
Dan White	Re: Back Protectors "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:406BE43E.3C229B8B@pre.org... <snip> > > > Did you see Fifth Gear this week? Nope. > Took a 2004 Espace and 1995 Espace, drove them into each other for > a driver-side head-on collision at 30mph a piece, and watched the > new '5 star ncap rated' motor tear through the old one. > > Which was kind of comforting. Not. "Darwinism in Motoring". -- Dan White (dan@finex666.org.uk) Perform an exorcism when replying.

	#4
Catman	Re: Back Protectors On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:58:42 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote: >"flashgorman" <flashgorman@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Do you wear a seatbelt in your car[1] through fear or just because in the >>long run its more convient then having to keep getting back in the car after >>you been propelled through the windscreen. > >I wear a seatbelt in the car, because in NI, the "wear a seatbelt" law >had just come in when I was learning to drive, and so I've never >really driven a car without one, so it feels "natural" to wear it. That is exactly why I nearly always wear full kit on the bike. [1] I just feel uncomfortable without. By the same token, I'll run it round the corner in jeans and a t-shirt. I (nearly) always wear gloves cos I like my hands, and nearly always wear boots (cos I don't wear shoes in the house. If I've got to put something on anyway. I may as well put the boots on) I dislike riding in denim type jeans cos I find my arse slides around. [1] Plus the fact that Rachel gives me less grief -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

	#6
darsy	Re: Back Protectors Catman <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote: >That is exactly why I nearly always wear full kit on the bike. [1] I >just feel uncomfortable without. By the same token, I'll run it round >the corner in jeans and a t-shirt. I (nearly) always wear gloves cos >I like my hands, and nearly always wear boots (cos I don't wear shoes >in the house. If I've got to put something on anyway. I may as well >put the boots on) I started riding with the bare minimum (IMO) of kit i.e. gloves and lid. This still feels like what I should wear, and I've rarely rode with less kit than this on. I didn't own leathers until about 9 months after passing my test. -- d.

	#8
darsy	Re: Back Protectors deadmail@burnt.org.uk wrote: > darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message ><l3pn60ppoee1t229uc8l7c2nuc8gqcr2vk@4ax.com>: >>Not riding drunk helps too, of course. > >Eh? I've had one of my worst accidents when pissed. It seemed to hurt >the least too. > >If you're going to crash make sure you do it drunk. sure. I meant if you wanted to not crash, don't ride drunk. -- d.

	#9
ogden	Re: Back Protectors darsy wrote: > > I meant if you wanted to not crash, don't ride drunk. > See, you are Sir.Tony! -- ogden gsf1200, chi#0, tppfatuicg#20, botafot#132 "bear baiting - a bygone sport"

	#10
darsy	Re: Back Protectors ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote: >darsy wrote: >> >> I meant if you wanted to not crash, don't ride drunk. >> >See, you are Sir.Tony! I'm fairly sure I'm not black. -- d.

	#12
Champ	Re: Back Protectors On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:19:51 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote: >darsy wrote: >> >> ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote: >> >> >darsy wrote: >> >> >> >> I meant if you wanted to not crash, don't ride drunk. >> >> >> >See, you are Sir.Tony! >> >> I'm fairly sure I'm not black. >> >You'd love it if you were. He's certainly too white to get down. -- Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T\|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

	#13
pseudoplatypus	Re: Back Protectors darsy wrote: > > I started riding with the bare minimum (IMO) of kit i.e. gloves and > lid. This still feels like what I should wear, and I've rarely rode > with less kit than this on. I didn't own leathers until about 9 months > after passing my test. I bought my first leather jacket about five years after passing my test, by which time I'd got most of the crashing out of the way. -- Platypus - (unreal) Triumph Trophy 1200 (pending) VN800 Drifter (for sale) R80RT (for sale - spares or repairs) Z200 (Fear the Distance Monster!) DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19 BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11 BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15