Eddie

I'm thinking of treating myself to one of these[0], and it looks like I
can get one off eBay for roughly half the normal retail price.

1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able to
use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever the
previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock countries,
if that's what I need to do?

2. It looks like the normal mounting kits attach to one of the lever
clamps. The 9R has a screen brace, which would probably make that
unsuitable, but looks like the perfect place to mount it; is there a
suitable mounting system?


[0] I'm quite capable of reading a map, but I like gadgets.
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

Eddie wrote:
>I'm thinking of treating myself to one of these[0], and it looks like I
>can get one off eBay for roughly half the normal retail price.

Make sure that (a) it exists and (b) you get the right model to base your
comparison on, as there is a Quest and a Quest 2.

>1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able to
>use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever the
>previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock countries,
>if that's what I need to do?

The maps unlock by region and AFAIR the Quest comes with maps for Europe so
you should have an unlock code for the maps that come with it. If you elect
to pay the yearly Garmin tax to get the latest mapping, I think it's USD75 +
VAT for Europe. At least that's what I paid for getting V9 for my 2610.

>2. It looks like the normal mounting kits attach to one of the lever
>clamps. The 9R has a screen brace, which would probably make that
>unsuitable, but looks like the perfect place to mount it; is there a
>suitable mounting system?

Have a look for RAM mounts.

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Pikey Joe

Eddie wrote:

> 2. It looks like the normal mounting kits attach to one of the lever
> clamps. The 9R has a screen brace, which would probably make that
> unsuitable, but looks like the perfect place to mount it; is there a
> suitable mounting system?

RAM seems to be the favourite at the moment - take a look at
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/.

There's a bigger range of RAM mounting stuff available over the pond -
if you need to buy from the US I'd recommend these fellas:
www.mountinginnovations.com

> [0] I'm quite capable of reading a map, but I like gadgets.


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Eddie

The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> Eddie wrote:
>> I'm thinking of treating myself to one of these[0], and it looks like I
>> can get one off eBay for roughly half the normal retail price.
>
> Make sure that (a) it exists and (b) you get the right model to base your
> comparison on, as there is a Quest and a Quest 2.

I've noticed; there are some mug punters on eBay paying over the odds
for second-hand Quests, probably assuming that they're getting a bargain
Quest 2.

>> 1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able to
>> use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever the
>> previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock countries,
>> if that's what I need to do?
>
> The maps unlock by region and AFAIR the Quest comes with maps for Europe so
> you should have an unlock code for the maps that come with it. If you elect
> to pay the yearly Garmin tax to get the latest mapping, I think it's USD75 +
> VAT for Europe. At least that's what I paid for getting V9 for my 2610.

That sounds quite reasonable, compared to how much maps for our Navman cost.

>> 2. It looks like the normal mounting kits attach to one of the lever
>> clamps. The 9R has a screen brace, which would probably make that
>> unsuitable, but looks like the perfect place to mount it; is there a
>> suitable mounting system?
>
> Have a look for RAM mounts.

Thought as much, but they seem to recommend the handlebar mounts for
9Rs; I shall investigate further.

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John Greystrong

Eddie wrote:
> I'm thinking of treating myself to one of these[0], and it looks like I
> can get one off eBay for roughly half the normal retail price.
>
> 1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able to
> use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever the
> previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock countries,
> if that's what I need to do?

You can unlock the maps on 2 PCs. If the previous owner's done that
already you can only use what's on the Quest, not ideal.

John

Eddie

John Greystrong wrote:
> Eddie wrote:
>>
>> 1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able to
>> use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever the
>> previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock countries,
>> if that's what I need to do?
>
> You can unlock the maps on 2 PCs. If the previous owner's done that
> already you can only use what's on the Quest, not ideal.

Ah, right. Something to ask the previous owner, then.

Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
bothered about anything else for the moment.

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Timo Geusch

Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> writes:

> John Greystrong wrote:
>> Eddie wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. What's the deal with unlocking the mapping data? Will I be able
>>> to use all the mapping that's on the supplied DVD, or only whatever
>>> the previous owner's installed? How much does it cost to unlock
>>> countries, if that's what I need to do?
>>
>> You can unlock the maps on 2 PCs. If the previous owner's done that
>> already you can only use what's on the Quest, not ideal.
>
> Ah, right. Something to ask the previous owner, then.

Depends on how they enforce the "2 PCs" - I'm pretty sure that I've
unlocked the maps for my 2610 more than twice when I was rebuilding my
main computer.

> Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
> bothered about anything else for the moment.

The original Quest will not have enough capacity to hold all of the
above. Not sure about the Q2, but I'd assume the same.

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Eddie

Timo Geusch wrote:
> Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> writes:
>
>> Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
>> bothered about anything else for the moment.
>
> The original Quest will not have enough capacity to hold all of the
> above. Not sure about the Q2, but I'd assume the same.

Drat. Not even the main roads, without town details?

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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

Eddie wrote:
>>> Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
>>> bothered about anything else for the moment.
>>
>> The original Quest will not have enough capacity to hold all of the
>> above. Not sure about the Q2, but I'd assume the same.
>
>Drat. Not even the main roads, without town details?

If it has a similar basemap to the 2610 then it has that information "on
board". However if you want address details better resolution maps, you need
to transfer the mapping data. The Quest 2 only has 243MB so I doubt that
you'd get the UK and France on there at the same time...

This is especially problematic with v9 of the maps as their memory
requirements have gone up again - you could fit all European maps on a 2GB
card for v8 with plenty of space to spare. They've included more map detail
again and more maps, so with v9 you can't get all of it on a single 2GB card
anymore...

What you usually do is that you select the parts of the map you want/need in
Mapsource and transfer it to the device or the memory card if the device has
a separate card.

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Eddie

The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> Eddie wrote:
>>>> Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
>>>> bothered about anything else for the moment.
>>> The original Quest will not have enough capacity to hold all of the
>>> above. Not sure about the Q2, but I'd assume the same.
>> Drat. Not even the main roads, without town details?
>
< snip >
> What you usually do is that you select the parts of the map you want/need in
> Mapsource and transfer it to the device or the memory card if the device has
> a separate card.

Ah, didn't realise you could do that; that should suit me fine, then.

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wessie

"The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote in
news:749d6d1c116fd@uwe:

> Eddie wrote:
>>>> Mind, as long as it's got UK, France and Benelux on it, I'm not too
>>>> bothered about anything else for the moment.
>>>
>>> The original Quest will not have enough capacity to hold all of the
>>> above. Not sure about the Q2, but I'd assume the same.
>>
>>Drat. Not even the main roads, without town details?
>
> If it has a similar basemap to the 2610 then it has that information
> "on board". However if you want address details better resolution
> maps, you need to transfer the mapping data. The Quest 2 only has
> 243MB so I doubt that you'd get the UK and France on there at the same
> time...
>
> This is especially problematic with v9 of the maps as their memory
> requirements have gone up again - you could fit all European maps on a
> 2GB card for v8 with plenty of space to spare. They've included more
> map detail again and more maps, so with v9 you can't get all of it on
> a single 2GB card anymore...
>
> What you usually do is that you select the parts of the map you
> want/need in Mapsource and transfer it to the device or the memory
> card if the device has a separate card.
>

I can get all v9[1] on a 2GB card, I think. Saved using a card reader
rather than going through the 2610, although this shouldn't make any
difference apart from write speed. I use this as a back up to the 256MB
card supplied with my 2610 which I load with the map tiles to use as you
say.

As the 2610 is relatively slow I don't know if this speeds up processing
when calculating routes, as the processor has fewer tiles to chug through
for the data.

My reasoning for doing this is that if a CF card is going to go pop on me
then it may as well be the one supplied by Garmin as I know they will
replace it PDQ, whilst under warranty. I'm not so sure 7dayshop.com have
such a good customer replacement policy...

[1] which seems to be very out of date as far as Lake Garda and the Brenta
Dolomites are concerned. Many newish tunnels, bypasses and junctions
confused the poor thing at times last week. Overall it worked quite well,
especially the advance warning for junctions, as the Italians don't always
give you much/any notice...

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Timo Geusch

wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> writes:

> I can get all v9[1] on a 2GB card, I think. Saved using a card reader
> rather than going through the 2610, although this shouldn't make any
> difference apart from write speed.

Well, I seem to remember that I had to drop some of the "new" countries
in Eastern Europe to get it on the card. May have been able to squeeze
it on but it didn't look like it'd fit. And yes, I'm writing via a card
reader as well, don't want to wait for days to have the mapping data on
the device.

> As the 2610 is relatively slow I don't know if this speeds up processing
> when calculating routes, as the processor has fewer tiles to chug through
> for the data.

I don't think it does, TBH.

> My reasoning for doing this is that if a CF card is going to go pop on me
> then it may as well be the one supplied by Garmin as I know they will
> replace it PDQ, whilst under warranty. I'm not so sure 7dayshop.com have
> such a good customer replacement policy...

I've just got a bunch of cards here that I can overwrite if necessary.

> [1] which seems to be very out of date as far as Lake Garda and the Brenta
> Dolomites are concerned. Many newish tunnels, bypasses and junctions
> confused the poor thing at times last week.

Similar experience in some parts of Switzerland. Fortunately I knew
where I was going anyway and didn't need the imp for that.

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gomez

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:54:27 +0100, Timo Geusch
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> dropped the following oil-slick:

>wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> writes:
>
>> I can get all v9[1] on a 2GB card, I think. Saved using a card reader
>> rather than going through the 2610, although this shouldn't make any
>> difference apart from write speed.
>
>Well, I seem to remember that I had to drop some of the "new" countries
>in Eastern Europe to get it on the card. May have been able to squeeze
>it on but it didn't look like it'd fit. And yes, I'm writing via a card
>reader as well, don't want to wait for days to have the mapping data on
>the device.

Ditto here. Although I elected to drop the northern-most parts of the
Scandanavian countries.

I am getting mixed message about whether a 4GB card will work in a
2610. Anyone tired this?
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