The Older Gentleman

Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
soundtracks.

That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture - but
a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.

Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated soundtrack.

Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.

Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.

Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?



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sweller

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
> there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?

"I see dead programmes"

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Timo Geusch

The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
> there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?

Heads off track?

Might be time for a new one.

Oh, and if you want to watch Spinal Tap and have a DVD drive/player
you can borrow my DVD.

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Mark Olson

Timo Geusch wrote:
>
> The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
> > Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
> > there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?
>
> Heads off track?

Nope- otherwise the prerecorded and previously recorded tapes wouldn't
play back the audio properly. The erase/record head simply isn't
working. (And assuming it's a VHS unit, TOG doesn't have or isn't using
the Hi-Fi feature, where the sound is recorded by the spinning video
heads rather than separate fixed heads).

> Might be time for a new one.

Yep.

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Abso

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
> soundtracks.
>
> That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture -
> but a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.
>
> Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated soundtrack.
>
> Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
> soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.
>
> Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.
>
> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or
> is there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?

The tracking's out. It's recording the audio track on a different
(probably wider) part of the tape than the playback head is reading,
therefore the sound you get on replay will belong to an old recording.
Should be able to be reset by a competent person but for 80 quid you'll
be able to pick up a brand new nicam quad head no-brand unit.

Or.. you could accept that VHS is obsolete and buy yourself a HDD
recorder, there are a couple on the market that integrate a freeview
receiver.

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The Older Gentleman

Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

> Nope- otherwise the prerecorded and previously recorded tapes wouldn't
> play back the audio properly.

Well, some previously recorded tapes are playing back unrelated sound,
and others aren't.

All "commercial" pre-recorded tapes are working fine, though.


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The Older Gentleman

Abso <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> Or.. you could accept that VHS is obsolete and buy yourself a HDD
> recorder,

A what?

> there are a couple on the market that integrate a freeview
> receiver.

A what?


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Abso

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
> soundtracks.
>
> That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture -
> but a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.
>
> Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated soundtrack.
>
> Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
> soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.
>
> Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.
>
> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or
> is there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?

Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^

http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp

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Abso

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Abso <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Or.. you could accept that VHS is obsolete and buy yourself a HDD
> > recorder,
>
> A what?
>
> > there are a couple on the market that integrate a freeview
> > receiver.
>
> A what?

Get with the programme (pardon the pun). See other post for link.

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Dr Zoidberg

Abso wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
>> soundtracks.
>>
>> That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture -
>> but a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.
>>
>> Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated
>> soundtrack.
>>
>> Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
>> soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.
>>
>> Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.
>>
>> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or
>> is there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?
>
> Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
>
> http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp

And here's where to get one cheap.
http://www.24-7electrical.com/epages...0t/humpvr8000t
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steve auvache

Mark Olson wrote
>Timo Geusch wrote:
>>
>> The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
>> > Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
>> > there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?
>>
>> Heads off track?
>
>Nope- otherwise the prerecorded and previously recorded tapes wouldn't
>play back the audio properly. The erase/record head simply isn't
>working. (And assuming it's a VHS unit, TOG doesn't have or isn't using
>the Hi-Fi feature, where the sound is recorded by the spinning video
>heads rather than separate fixed heads).

That sounds plausible. Odd but plausible.

>
>> Might be time for a new one.
>
>Yep.
>

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Cerberus

"The Older Gentleman" <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message news:1gfp5ry.btz2lonsct8sN%chateauSPAMKILL.murray@ dsl.pipex.com...
> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
> soundtracks.
>
> That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture - but
> a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.
>
> Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated soundtrack.
>
> Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
> soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.
>
> Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.
>
> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
> there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?
>

It depends on the video, on some video recorders you can choose a different
audio source to record from for dubbing reasons.

It may be you are recording the audio through scart and the the picture
through RF or vice versa.

If that's the case, it may be either software or hardware switchable, it may
even be a duff scart lead.

HTH


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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:50:59 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

> Abso wrote:
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>
>>> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
>>> soundtracks.
>>>
>>> That is, I recorded Spinal Tap last night, and got a good picture - but
>>> a soundtrack from some Beyblades thing.
>>>
>>> Older tapes show a decen picture - but a totally unrelated soundtrack.
>>>
>>> Try recording a current programme, and you get the picture - but the
>>> soundtrack from whatever was recorded on the tape before remains.
>>>
>>> Commercial pre-recorded videos play fine.
>>>
>>> Does this mean, as I suspect, that our video recorded is FUBARed, or is
>>> there a simple explanation and a means of re-setting it?
>>
>> Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
>>
>> http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp
>
> And here's where to get one cheap.
> http://www.24-7electrical.com/epages...0t/humpvr8000t

Or even cheaper as no P&P
http://www.qed-uk.com/?i=&vp=6&bg=27...&bi=0&ird=1405

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Champ

On 20 Jun 2004 20:42:33 GMT, "Abso" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

<PVRs>

>Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
>
>http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp

Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
prerequisite of a PVR?
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Stonge

>> our video recorded is FUBARed

Seeing some of the *carefully* described items on Ebay recently, it would be
interesting to see how high the bidding gets...

Be sure to tell them the special ability to save old audio from programmes
long forgotten...



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Abso

Champ wrote:

> On 20 Jun 2004 20:42:33 GMT, "Abso" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> <PVRs>
>
> > Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
> >
> > http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp
>
> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
> prerequisite of a PVR?

Some people want it all. Sheesh ;o)

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Champ

On 20 Jun 2004 22:03:13 GMT, "Abso" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> On 20 Jun 2004 20:42:33 GMT, "Abso" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> <PVRs>
>>
>> > Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
>> >
>> > http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp
>>
>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>
>Some people want it all. Sheesh ;o)

Quite right too. I mean, really, what's the point of a PVR where it's
stuck on the HD?
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simonk

Champ wrote:

> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
> prerequisite of a PVR?

Er, no.

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Pip

"Cerberus" <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> struggled to ejaculate:

>"The Older Gentleman" <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>> Our video has suddenly started playing tapes with totally unrelated
>> soundtracks.

>It depends on the video, on some video recorders you can choose a different
>audio source to record from for dubbing reasons.

That's what occurred to me. If it is a decent spec VHS deck and it
has suddenly started this behaviour, someone has made a switch
somewhere.
>
>It may be you are recording the audio through scart and the the picture
>through RF or vice versa.

I'd start by checking mono/stereo settings, hi-fi recording,
subtitles, alternate tracks etc.
>
>If that's the case, it may be either software or hardware switchable, it may
>even be a duff scart lead.

Switchable things yes, can't see how a duff scart could cause this.
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sweller

Abso wrote:

> Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
>
> http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp

Will it record an external scart in source such as my NTL box (like my
VCR could) or am I limited to the channels in its tuner?

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sweller

Champ wrote:

> Quite right too. I mean, really, what's the point of a PVR where it's
> stuck on the HD?

I can see the point and a DVD recorder would be /very/ desirable but the
majority of my taping has been along the lines of tape, watch, tape over,
watch, tape over - repeat until the first 20 minutes is unusable.

Although I have stacks and stacks of tapes its very unusual for me to
actually rewatch something I've taped from the television (as opposed to
a pre-recorded film).

I can't see the PVR being any different.

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The Older Gentleman

Champ <ukrm@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On 20 Jun 2004 20:42:33 GMT, "Abso" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> <PVRs>
>
> >Here's an example of what I was talking about up there ^
> >
> >http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp
>
> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
> prerequisite of a PVR?

Hang about. You can record ordinary TV programmes onto this, but you
cant save them once the HD gets full?

What's the use in that?


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The Older Gentleman

Cerberus <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> It may be you are recording the audio through scart and the the picture
> through RF or vice versa.

Not using a scart lead, no.


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The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>
>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>
> Hang about. You can record ordinary TV programmes onto this, but you
> cant save them once the HD gets full?
>
> What's the use in that?

Let me guess, you have a cupboard full of videos with stuff on that
you've never watched, haven't you.

I mean - given the way most films and many series are hacked about
when shown on UK TV (and just wait until every channel has its
sodding logo stuck in the corner of the screen) if it was something
I'd want to keep, I'd buy it.

I think the only things I've videod in the last couple of years have
been the odd bike race, and... no that's it, there's rarely anything
on worth watching, let alone videoing.

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Champ

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:03:59 +0100, "sweller" <ng@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> Quite right too. I mean, really, what's the point of a PVR where it's
>> stuck on the HD?
>
>I can see the point and a DVD recorder would be /very/ desirable but the
>majority of my taping has been along the lines of tape, watch, tape over,
>watch, tape over - repeat until the first 20 minutes is unusable.

Well, sure I do a bit of that.

>Although I have stacks and stacks of tapes its very unusual for me to
>actually rewatch something I've taped from the television (as opposed to
>a pre-recorded film).

I like to put movies on tape, tho I agree I rarely watch them. I just
like to have them.

And, what if you want to record something, say the bike racing, and
lend it to someone?
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Champ

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:30:54 +0100, "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>
>Er, no.

I disagree. Well, until hard drives get huge enough to have hundreds
of hours of video content on them.
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darsy

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:52:20 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:30:54 +0100, "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Champ wrote:
>>
>>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>>
>>Er, no.
>
>I disagree. Well, until hard drives get huge enough to have hundreds
>of hours of video content on them.

what Simon (probably) means is that the industry isn't offering PVRs
with DVD-burning capability as a sop to DRM.

The PVR I've just built has a DVD burner in it, mind.

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Champ

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:03:12 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:52:20 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:30:54 +0100, "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Champ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>>>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>>>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>>>
>>>Er, no.
>>
>>I disagree. Well, until hard drives get huge enough to have hundreds
>>of hours of video content on them.
>
>what Simon (probably) means is that the industry isn't offering PVRs
>with DVD-burning capability as a sop to DRM.

DRM? <google> oh, Digital Rights Management. Yeah, I spose I can see
that.

>The PVR I've just built has a DVD burner in it, mind.

How much has that cost to put together, approx?
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Doc Gonz0

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:52:20 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:30:54 +0100, "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Champ wrote:
>>
>>> Yebbut - it doesn't have a DVD recorder, so you can't burn stuff off
>>> to disc when the HD starts to get full. Surely that's a basic
>>> prerequisite of a PVR?
>>
>>Er, no.
>
>I disagree. Well, until hard drives get huge enough to have hundreds
>of hours of video content on them.

Well, I've bought 250G HDs for under 120 quid - can't recall the exact
price now, but I bet it's fallen again in the last 6 months. If you
want full DVD quality, then (assuming 120mins = 4.5G, and I know that
that's a big assumption, etc etc) then that's 55 hours of programming
(minus a gig or two for indexing, etc).

Mind you, I'm more than happy with the XViD rips I do of DVDs which
weigh in at about 600M per hour - that's almost 300 hours on a single
HD, at better-than-broadcast resolution, although fast action *can*
suffer if it can't find spare bits elsewhere to rob.
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Doc Gonz0

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:03:12 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk>
wrote:

>what Simon (probably) means is that the industry isn't offering PVRs
>with DVD-burning capability as a sop to DRM.

The Sony PSX (Playstation 2 + PVR) has a DVD recorder built into it,
and while at the moment it will only allow you to record to DVD 'live'
(so they can continue to use the time-shifting defense that they, of
course, first established for VCRs) the newer models (and older ones,
with a free software update) will allow you to copy programs recorded
to the HD onto the DVD. They'll even have rudimentary DVD authoring
tools to allow you to add chapters and menus.

If Sony feel like sticking to their guns on this one, as they did way
back with Betamax, then they will *annihalate* the DRM lobby. Sony are
very big, and very clever, and if they believe that they have more to
gain by selling these units (which, after all, do nothing a VCR
doesn't do[1]) then they do to lose through potential loss of revenue
through 'piracy' (of course pirates wouldn't use anything like this
anyway, not with just the one drive) then they will do it.

[1] Well, obviously it can play PS2 games, which my VCR can't.
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Ben Blaney

Doc Gonz0 wrote:

>Mind you, I'm more than happy with the XViD rips I do of DVDs which
>weigh in at about 600M per hour - that's almost 300 hours on a single

I've a mate who's got 4TB of videos. He's in Sweden and he's got 10Mb
DSL. I pointed out that he downloads faster than he can watch, and
he's got barely enough time in the rest of his life to watch the
archive he has already. I thought it was funny, and he didn't really
understand my point.

Is it quite a recent phenomena, the desire to have things just for the
sake of it? I don't mean fine furniture, or paintings, or classic
cars. I mean buying the box set of a telly programme you liked - how
many people watch them again? I'd guess most people here have fairly
substantial collections of porn, MP3s, videos, etc - but the sheer
quantity astounds me.

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Ben Blaney

Simian wrote:

>I think the only things I've videod in the last couple of years have
>been the odd bike race, and... no that's it, there's rarely anything
>on worth watching, let alone videoing.

I think I used my video twice in three years - once I taped an obscure
1930s film for my brother because it's not available on video and he
doesn't have Sky, and another time I taped a Prom, because a friend
was playing and her parents were at the performance and wanted to see
it again.

I'm pretty sure I haven't taped anything for me since the 1999 FA
Youth Cup Final (9-0 to West Ham, in case you missed it). I had that
transferred onto DVD.

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darsy

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:14:33 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:03:12 +0100, darsy <darsy@slimwards.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>The PVR I've just built has a DVD burner in it, mind.
>
>How much has that cost to put together, approx?

Less than 300 quid all in.

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d.

darsy

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:38:47 +0100, Doc Gonz0 <ukrm@cluebyfour.co.uk>
wrote:

>If Sony feel like sticking to their guns on this one, as they did way
>back with Betamax, then they will *annihalate* the DRM lobby.

well, good.

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d.

Ginge

In article <6bcdd0d3g9bpmpdcac1dneajkdf8g9tqm5@4ax.com>, Ben Blaney
says...
> Is it quite a recent phenomena, the desire to have things just for the
> sake of it? I don't mean fine furniture, or paintings, or classic
> cars. I mean buying the box set of a telly programme you liked - how
> many people watch them again?

Music, that's mine, I have way more than I *need*, but it also gets used
and I shall continue expanding my collection.

My present original CD's alone would cover at least 2 weeks of 24/7 non
stop listening, and yet I still plan to buy more because I like new and
interesting things, I hope this never changes.

As for films, etc. I've bought a few I really like, and some taped off
satellite. The Sky+ box looks after me not missing shows so I generally
only watch them once, albeit at odd times.

What I really find tricky is making time to read, because it's not
achievable as a background task, unlike listening to music whilst
working, for example.

I'd love to become more organised and balance time better.

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Doc Gonz0

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:04:37 +0300, Ben Blaney <benblaney@ukrm.net>
wrote:

>Is it quite a recent phenomena, the desire to have things just for the
>sake of it? I don't mean fine furniture, or paintings, or classic
>cars. I mean buying the box set of a telly programme you liked - how
>many people watch them again? I'd guess most people here have fairly
>substantial collections of porn, MP3s, videos, etc - but the sheer
>quantity astounds me.

"Because it's there" is my excuse for my stupendous video, pr0n, and
MP3 collection. Actually, it's not that stupendous, especially compare
to your mate's 10TB, but it does seem to be a compulsion - I have
downloaded tons of stuff on that ground and eventually ended up wiping
it, but as it cost me nothing but the time spent to click on a couple
of things, I don't feel like I've lost out...
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