OT: Sun's position

Hi,

Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....

Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
UK?

Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?

I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling
that they aren't quite the same?

Cheers.

--
Stonge

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>
>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>UK?
>
>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?

Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho.
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> >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>
> Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho.

To clarify....

In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses, this
shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come back.
I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox.

Does this help?

Stonge wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>
> Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year

er .. http://www.70south.com/resources/islands/antipodes

> in the UK?

er .. rockall

> Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>
> I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a
> feeling that they aren't quite the same?

The earliest time of day for sunrise, and the latest time for sunset, aren't
necessarily on the same day, if that's what you're getting at

--
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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> saying something
like:

>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>UK?
>
>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>
>I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this -

I'd think so, but...

> but I've a feeling
>that they aren't quite the same?

WillG or Molly might know for sure, but possibly the slight wobble the
Earth has might affect things.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/200...lerwobble.html

--

Dave

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FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

> er .. http://www.70south.com/resources/islands/antipodes
>
> > in the UK?
>
> er .. rockall

I think I've confused people...

Since March the sun's been setting further and further west (as marked on my
wall!), and I want to know which day it stops moving west and starts coming
back...

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> dropped the
following oil-slick:
>
>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>UK?

Today.
>
>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?

Today.
>
>I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling
>that they aren't quite the same?

Hang onto that feeling. It will be a comfort to you in your
ignorance.
--
gomez
Honda VFR,KTM 640LC Enduro
(not is hot to reply)
"The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

> Hang onto that feeling. It will be a comfort to you in your
> ignorance.

If you're trying to tell me that today is the summer solstice, then perhaps
you can borrow some of my ignorance, and wear it as a t-shirt?

Champ spoke:
> Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho.

I don't think it is you.

--
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FJ1200, CCM130
He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays

Stonge spoke:
> To clarify....
>
> In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses, this
> shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come back.
> I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox.
>
> Does this help?

Er... how can I put this?

no.

HTH

--
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UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
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FJ1200, CCM130
He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays

Stonge wrote:

>> er .. http://www.70south.com/resources/islands/antipodes
>>
>>> in the UK?
>>
>> er .. rockall
>
>
> I think I've confused people...
>
> Since March the sun's been setting further and further west

If you mean by "further west", "less south and more west" ...

> as marked on my wall!), and I want to know which day it stops moving
> west and starts coming back...

.... give or take anything based on wall-markings, tomorrow-ish

http://www.onlineweather.com/v4/uk/sun/London.html#June

Earliest sunrise in London was probably this morning. Latest sunset in
London is probably on Wednesday.

--
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"Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id>
struggled to ejaculate:

>then perhaps
>you can borrow some of my ignorance, and wear it as a t-shirt?

You wear it yourself, amply demonstrated by your inability to include
an attribution line of any kind.

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:03:06 +0100, Stonge wrote:

>> >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>>
>> Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho.
>
> To clarify....
>
> In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses,
> this shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come
> back. I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox.
>
> Does this help?

Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you
are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ?

If so
East = Lowestoft (behind Birds Eye factory)
West = Andrumachan Point

HTH
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:11:26 +0100, YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:

>Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you
>are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ?
>
>If so
>East = Lowestoft (behind Birds Eye factory)
>West = Andrumachan Point

No, I'm fairly sure that's not what he's asking.
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:22:34 +0100, "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> dropped the
following oil-slick:

>> Hang onto that feeling. It will be a comfort to you in your
>> ignorance.
>
>If you're trying to tell me that today is the summer solstice, then perhaps
>you can borrow some of my ignorance, and wear it as a t-shirt?
>
When I said Today, yesterday, I didn't mean yesterday in particular,
nor today in particular nor even tomorrow . Is it any clearer now?
--
gomez
Honda VFR,KTM 640LC Enduro
(not is hot to reply)
"The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:13:53 +0100, "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> dropped the
following oil-slick:
>
>Since March the sun's been setting further and further west (as marked on my
>wall!),

You must have a helluva long wall.
--
gomez
Honda VFR,KTM 640LC Enduro
(not is hot to reply)
"The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> struggled to ejaculate:

>Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you
>are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ?

>West = Andrumachan Point

Is that slightly Westward of Ardnamurchan Point, then?

--
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ANORAK#8 MIRTTH#15 BOTAFOT/F#47/34a BONY#13 KotMIB# <space>
UKRMRM#14 TWA#2

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:14:26 +0100, Pip wrote:

> YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> struggled to ejaculate:
>
>
>>Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you
>>are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ?
>
>>West = Andrumachan Point
>
> Is that slightly Westward of Ardnamurchan Point, then?

I always spill that one wring ...

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:10:32 +0100, Champ wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:11:26 +0100, YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you
>>are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ?
>>
>>If so
>>East = Lowestoft (behind Birds Eye factory) West = Andrumachan Point
>
> No, I'm fairly sure that's not what he's asking.

Yes, looking at a later post I now realise it was relative to a stain on
his bedroom wall.

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge"
<stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>
>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>UK?
>
>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?

I think you mean furthest North, for both rising and setting. Between
the exinoxes (~23rd March-23nd Sept) the rising and setting point are
North of due East/West anywhere North of the equator.

>
>I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling
>that they aren't quite the same?

It is, by definition. On June 21st the sun will rise at about 050deg
and set at about 310deg.

--
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:53:02 +0200, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge"
><stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inva lid> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>>
>>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>>UK?
>>
>>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>
>I think you mean furthest North, for both rising and setting. Between
>the exinoxes (~23rd March-23nd Sept) the rising and setting point are
>North of due East/West anywhere North of the equator.

er, no, surely not?

When on the equator, the sun rises due east, and sets due west, all
year.

When north of the equator, the sun appears to the south of us, rising
in the south-east and setting in the south-west.. How 'south' depends
on the time of year, which I think was the original question.

--
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:17:47 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:53:02 +0200, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge"
>><stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inv alid> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>>>
>>>Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the
>>>UK?
>>>
>>>Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>>
>>I think you mean furthest North, for both rising and setting. Between
>>the exinoxes (~23rd March-23nd Sept) the rising and setting point are
>>North of due East/West anywhere North of the equator.
>
>er, no, surely not?

Yupp.

>When on the equator, the sun rises due east, and sets due west, all
>year.

Nope. On the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn (23.3deg N/S) it'll be due
east/west at the summer/Winter solstice, at the equator only on the
exinoxes.

>When north of the equator, the sun appears to the south of us, rising
>in the south-east and setting in the south-west.. How 'south' depends
>on the time of year, which I think was the original question.

It always appears south of us at midday, yes, but it describes an arc
in the sky, which in the summer has its ends North of our E/W line.

<Googles for better explanation>?

Here we go: http://www.locationworks.com/sunrise/tutor.html

HTH

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:32:41 +0200, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>>>I think you mean furthest North, for both rising and setting. Between
>>>the exinoxes (~23rd March-23nd Sept) the rising and setting point are
>>>North of due East/West anywhere North of the equator.
>>
>>er, no, surely not?
>
>Yupp.
>
>>When on the equator, the sun rises due east, and sets due west, all
>>year.
>
>Nope. On the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn (23.3deg N/S) it'll be due
>east/west at the summer/Winter solstice, at the equator only on the
>exinoxes.

er...

>>When north of the equator, the sun appears to the south of us, rising
>>in the south-east and setting in the south-west.. How 'south' depends
>>on the time of year, which I think was the original question.
>
>It always appears south of us at midday, yes, but it describes an arc
>in the sky, which in the summer has its ends North of our E/W line.

It does?

><Googles for better explanation>?
>
>Here we go: http://www.locationworks.com/sunrise/tutor.html

<baffled> OK, I've read that and I still don't understand *why*. I
thought in northern climes (well, certainly above the tropic of
cancer) the sun was always in the south.

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Champ wrote:
>>
>>Here we go: http://www.locationworks.com/sunrise/tutor.html
>
><baffled> OK, I've read that and I still don't understand *why*. I
> thought in northern climes (well, certainly above the tropic of
> cancer) the sun was always in the south.

Think of the north pole, mid-summers day. At what point on the horizon
does the sun set?

OK, obviously the answer is - it doesn't, it's always just above the
horizon. Now move a little bit south, so the sun only sets for half
an hour say. At what point on the horizon will it set? Think about
standing looking due south, with your left arm pointing east, and your
right arm pointing west. Now the sun is in the sky for 23.5 hours, so
the sun must set when it's way behind you (because a little bit over
11 hours ago it was right in front of you, and the earth has spun
almost 180 degrees) - i.e on your personal compass, north of due west.

Keep moving south until you get to London (52 degrees north), and the
same effect will be true, only less so. The sun will be in the sky for
than 12 hours, so it must set north of due west.

HTH.

--
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:23:42 -0000, Simian
<Simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>>>
>>>Here we go: http://www.locationworks.com/sunrise/tutor.html
>>
>><baffled> OK, I've read that and I still don't understand *why*. I
>> thought in northern climes (well, certainly above the tropic of
>> cancer) the sun was always in the south.
>
>Think of the north pole, mid-summers day. At what point on the horizon
>does the sun set?
>
>OK, obviously the answer is - it doesn't, it's always just above the
>horizon. Now move a little bit south, so the sun only sets for half
>an hour say. At what point on the horizon will it set? Think about
>standing looking due south, with your left arm pointing east, and your
>right arm pointing west. Now the sun is in the sky for 23.5 hours, so
>the sun must set when it's way behind you (because a little bit over
>11 hours ago it was right in front of you, and the earth has spun
>almost 180 degrees) - i.e on your personal compass, north of due west.

<screws up forehead>

<light dawns>

>Keep moving south until you get to London (52 degrees north), and the
>same effect will be true, only less so. The sun will be in the sky for
>than 12 hours, so it must set north of due west.
>
>HTH.

It does. I'm indebted.
--
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"Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> wrote in
message news:2jmf0uF12cj9bU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi,
>
> Can someone confirm (or otherwise).....
>
> Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in
the
> UK?
>
> Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising?
>
> I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a
feeling
> that they aren't quite the same?
>

Are you looking for the Vernal Equinox?
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astr...alEquinox.html

--
Mike
FJ1200 (Porky Torquey)
GTS1000 (Two rear ends)

	#1
Stonge	OT: Sun's position Hi, Can someone confirm (or otherwise)..... Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the UK? Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling that they aren't quite the same? Cheers. -- Stonge

	#2
Champ	Re: OT: Sun's position On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> wrote: >Hi, > >Can someone confirm (or otherwise)..... > >Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the >UK? > >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho. -- Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T\|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

	#3
Stonge	Re: OT: Sun's position > >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? > > Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho. To clarify.... In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses, this shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come back. I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox. Does this help?

	#4
simonk	Re: Sun's position Stonge wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone confirm (or otherwise)..... > > Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year er .. http://www.70south.com/resources/islands/antipodes > in the UK? er .. rockall > Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? > > I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a > feeling that they aren't quite the same? The earliest time of day for sunrise, and the latest time for sunset, aren't necessarily on the same day, if that's what you're getting at -- simonk \| rsv-mille, ccm404-ds

	#5
Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: OT: Sun's position It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> saying something like: >Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the >UK? > >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? > >I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - I'd think so, but... > but I've a feeling >that they aren't quite the same? WillG or Molly might know for sure, but possibly the slight wobble the Earth has might affect things. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/200...lerwobble.html -- Dave GS 850 x2 / SE 6a SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3 FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

	#6
Stonge	Re: Sun's position > er .. http://www.70south.com/resources/islands/antipodes > > > in the UK? > > er .. rockall I think I've confused people... Since March the sun's been setting further and further west (as marked on my wall!), and I want to know which day it stops moving west and starts coming back...

	#7
gomez	Re: OT: Sun's position On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:48:46 +0100, "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> dropped the following oil-slick: > >Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the >UK? Today. > >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? Today. > >I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling >that they aren't quite the same? Hang onto that feeling. It will be a comfort to you in your ignorance. -- gomez Honda VFR,KTM 640LC Enduro (not is hot to reply) "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

	#8
Stonge	Re: OT: Sun's position > Hang onto that feeling. It will be a comfort to you in your > ignorance. If you're trying to tell me that today is the summer solstice, then perhaps you can borrow some of my ignorance, and wear it as a t-shirt?

	#9
Rope	Re: OT: Sun's position Champ spoke: > Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho. I don't think it is you. -- Rob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays

	#10
Rope	Re: OT: Sun's position Stonge spoke: > To clarify.... > > In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses, this > shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come back. > I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox. > > Does this help? Er... how can I put this? no. HTH -- Rob_P UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl) FJ1200, CCM130 He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays

	#12
Pip	Re: OT: Sun's position "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> struggled to ejaculate: >then perhaps >you can borrow some of my ignorance, and wear it as a t-shirt? You wear it yourself, amply demonstrated by your inability to include an attribution line of any kind. -- Pip, Ex - Hairy Gfedcker. RF 900RR, Ruff and Rattly. WS* DFWAG#0 IbW#27* DIAABTCOD#15 GP#0 EKP FUB#4 MKA+E#3 ANORAK#8 MIRTTH#15 BOTAFOT/F#47/34a BONY#13 KotMIB# <space> UKRMRM#14 TWA#2

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YTC#1	Re: OT: Sun's position On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:03:06 +0100, Stonge wrote: >> >Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? >> >> Hmmm. One of us is being rather stupid. I'm not sure who it is, tho. > > To clarify.... > > In the morning it rises somewhere in the east and as spring progresses, > this shifts further and further east until at some point it starts to come > back. I think it rises due east on the Spring Equinox. > > Does this help? Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ? If so East = Lowestoft (behind Birds Eye factory) West = Andrumachan Point HTH -- XJR1300SP, XJ900F, GSX750W, GS550, GSX250 POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8 (Emails to the posted address will be ignored) "The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly" http://www.ytc1.co.uk There is an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/ Get the Software http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris

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Champ	Re: OT: Sun's position On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:11:26 +0100, YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> wrote: >Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you >are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ? > >If so >East = Lowestoft (behind Birds Eye factory) >West = Andrumachan Point No, I'm fairly sure that's not what he's asking. -- Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T\|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

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gomez	Re: Sun's position On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:13:53 +0100, "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> dropped the following oil-slick: > >Since March the sun's been setting further and further west (as marked on my >wall!), You must have a helluva long wall. -- gomez Honda VFR,KTM 640LC Enduro (not is hot to reply) "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

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Pip	Re: OT: Sun's position YTC#1 <nospam@ytc1.co.uk> struggled to ejaculate: >Are you loooking for the point you can stand on the mainland so taht you >are furthest east and furthest west on the longest day ? >West = Andrumachan Point Is that slightly Westward of Ardnamurchan Point, then? -- Pip, Ex - Hairy Gfedcker. RF 900RR, Ruff and Rattly. WS* DFWAG#0 IbW#27* DIAABTCOD#15 GP#0 EKP FUB#4 MKA+E#3 ANORAK#8 MIRTTH#15 BOTAFOT/F#47/34a BONY#13 KotMIB# <space> UKRMRM#14 TWA#2

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Simian	Re: OT: Sun's position Champ wrote: >> >>Here we go: http://www.locationworks.com/sunrise/tutor.html > ><baffled> OK, I've read that and I still don't understand why. I > thought in northern climes (well, certainly above the tropic of > cancer) the sun was always in the south. Think of the north pole, mid-summers day. At what point on the horizon does the sun set? OK, obviously the answer is - it doesn't, it's always just above the horizon. Now move a little bit south, so the sun only sets for half an hour say. At what point on the horizon will it set? Think about standing looking due south, with your left arm pointing east, and your right arm pointing west. Now the sun is in the sky for 23.5 hours, so the sun must set when it's way behind you (because a little bit over 11 hours ago it was right in front of you, and the earth has spun almost 180 degrees) - i.e on your personal compass, north of due west. Keep moving south until you get to London (52 degrees north), and the same effect will be true, only less so. The sun will be in the sky for than 12 hours, so it must set north of due west. HTH. -- ZX7RR.

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mb	Re: Sun's position "Stonge" <stonge.at.brainREMOVEMEbashers.dot.com@spam.inval id> wrote in message news:2jmf0uF12cj9bU1@uni-berlin.de... > Hi, > > Can someone confirm (or otherwise)..... > > Does anyone know the date of the furthest west the sun sets this year in the > UK? > > Similar question, what date for furthest east for rising? > > I'd like to think that the Summer Solstice gives this - but I've a feeling > that they aren't quite the same? > Are you looking for the Vernal Equinox? http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astr...alEquinox.html -- Mike FJ1200 (Porky Torquey) GTS1000 (Two rear ends)