OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi

I've got three plants in the conservatory and two plants in the kitchen.
(Habenero, Hungarian Purple, Birds Eye, Summat else and summat else).

The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some sort of
fly.

The fly appears to be v.small and brown coloured when young, and leaves lots
of white (eggs or carcasses) everywhere all over the plant.

Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the
Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment.

(Apols for any typos & grammar - this post has been sponsered by Dr
Carlsberg & my newly installed Perfect Draft system currently dispensing
Jupiler).

--
Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/

In article <1183953854.611387.219800@e9g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
DoetNietComputeren <Doesnotcompute@gmail.com> writes
>On Jul 8, 8:23 pm, steve auvache <dont_s...@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> >Care to expand old man?
>>
>> Cross pollination innit.
>
>Ahh, gotchya.
>
>> Proper gardeners will want to save seed from
>> successful pants
>
>whilst still damp, or once it's crusty?

Mature is good, mature is your friend. As far as I am aware once the
fruit has started to colour, before this the seed may be too immature.
The easy way to test it is to take some early in the season and see how
readily they germinate, if they don't then wait for a more mature fruit
and try again.

Don't use the ones from Tescos they will have been selected to grow best
under intensive commercial conditions with lots of added chemical food
supplements. To begin your Very Own Strain buy seed aimed at the
amateur grower from a reputable seed merchant or, as I do, get plants
from the garden centre.

>Coo, now imagine that, a nice big, thick walled, juicy red pepper with
>a bit of a bite to it. yum.

A bit would be nice but not so much that anything with a functioning
central nervous system dies if comes within 6 feet. Mind you, having
said that the terms central nervous system and ukrm don't sit very well
together in the same sentence.

>Well, there is something to say about heat, but, when I'm cooking, I
>do so for flavour.

This I am aware of. DNC burgers are yummy burgers.

Going back to be bed now.

--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

On Jul 8, 9:25 pm, steve auvache <dont_s...@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

> >> Proper gardeners will want to save seed from
> >> successful pants
>
> >whilst still damp, or once it's crusty?
>
> Mature is good, mature is your friend.

Indeed. Alas, my question was anything but.

> >Coo, now imagine that, a nice big, thick walled, juicy red pepper with
> >a bit of a bite to it. yum.
>
> A bit would be nice but not so much that anything with a functioning
> central nervous system dies if comes within 6 feet.

no, I mean just a bit of a tingle, but with the crispy juicyness of a
bell.

> >Well, there is something to say about heat, but, when I'm cooking, I
> >do so for flavour.
>
> This I am aware of. DNC burgers are yummy burgers.

Far too long since I've had the opportunity.

> Going back to be bed now.

eww.

--
Dnc

Brownz (Mobile) wrote:

> The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some
> sort of fly.
>
> The fly appears to be v.small and brown coloured when young, and
> leaves lots of white (eggs or carcasses) everywhere all over the
> plant.
>
> Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the
> Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment.

I've found that my plants attract aphids, blackfly and whitefly. A
going-over with an organic spray for such things has sorted it out. I'd
check your local garden centre for a suitable insecticide, bearing in
mind you're going to eat what you grow.

I tried finding ladybirds to sort it out, but the few I encouraged onto
the plants weren't having any of it and didn't eat a single aphid.

FWIW, mine (8ish Apache, grown from one chilli from last year's plant)
have started flowering, but no fruit coming yet. I'm hoping I get some,
as the chilli vodka it makes is good.
--
Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R

In article <xn0f8hrmewnd4001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
<chris@ukrm.org> writes
>Brownz (Mobile) wrote:
>
>> The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some
>> sort of fly.
>>
>> The fly appears to be v.small and brown coloured when young, and
>> leaves lots of white (eggs or carcasses) everywhere all over the
>> plant.
>>
>> Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the
>> Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment.
>
>I've found that my plants attract aphids, blackfly and whitefly. A
>going-over with an organic spray for such things has sorted it out. I'd
>check your local garden centre for a suitable insecticide, bearing in
>mind you're going to eat what you grow.
>
>I tried finding ladybirds to sort it out, but the few I encouraged onto
>the plants weren't having any of it and didn't eat a single aphid.

They won't, it is their larvae that do the eating, ladybirds do shagging
which leads to larvae

--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:44:52 GMT, "Brownz \(Mobile\)"
<someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote:

>The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some sort of
>fly.

>Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the
>Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment.

Not sure why you need to ask such a question really. There are plenty
of food-safe insecticides available. You could start with the
'organic' types, but IME they only kill what's there at that point and
won't wipe out an infestation, so I'd go for some decent strong
chemical stuff from the start.

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\`\ | /`/ DS#8
`\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
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steve auvache wrote:

> > I tried finding ladybirds to sort it out, but the few I encouraged
> > onto the plants weren't having any of it and didn't eat a single
> > aphid.
>
> They won't, it is their larvae that do the eating, ladybirds do
> shagging which leads to larvae

As good as sounds, whiling away my hours watching ladybirds boffing, I
don't think it'll have the implied amount of lesbianism. The squirty
gun option is much quicker.

--
Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R

Ace wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:44:52 GMT, "Brownz \(Mobile\)"
> <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some
>> sort of fly.
>
>> Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the
>> Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment.
>
> Not sure why you need to ask such a question really.

FFS.
1. Because I know fek all about gardening for a starter.
2. I know other urkm folk have also been growing chiles and peppers.

> There are plenty
> of food-safe insecticides available. You could start with the
> 'organic' types, but IME they only kill what's there at that point and
> won't wipe out an infestation, so I'd go for some decent strong
> chemical stuff from the start.

Ta. I didn't know what they were, and if there was some sort of old wives
remedy, rather that insectisides.
These are luck more than judgement = <Lets see what happens if I leave some
seeds in this pot>.

--
Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:02:38 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
<someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote:

>Ace wrote:

>> There are plenty
>> of food-safe insecticides available. You could start with the
>> 'organic' types, but IME they only kill what's there at that point and
>> won't wipe out an infestation, so I'd go for some decent strong
>> chemical stuff from the start.
>
>
>Ta. I didn't know what they were, and if there was some sort of old wives
>remedy, rather that insectisides.

There are plenty, the simplest of all being a dilute soap (or
washing-up liquid) solution, that simply kills most insects by
sufocating/drowning them, but most suffer from not also killing the
eggs/larvae, so they're only really effective if you're happy to
re-apply every couple of days.

>These are luck more than judgement = <Lets see what happens if I leave some
>seeds in this pot>.

Often the best way. Sometimes you'll get results that are nothing like
the 'donor' plant, due to x-fertilisation and sometimes hybridisation
of the bought chillis. We've finally managed to kill all of our chilli
plants - some of which came with us from the UK, so must have been
about 7-8 years old - mainly due to my lack of attention and ability
(or desire) to lift watering cans around over the winter/spring
period. We'll plant some more just as soon as I feel I'll be able to
give them the attention they deserve.

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`\|/`
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Brownz (Mobile) wrote:

> Each to their own.

Do you really think Steve gets close enough to other people to try
theirs?

--
Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> saying something like:

>Proper gardeners will want to save seed from
>successful pants

Trophy trousers?
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

	#1
Brownz \(Mobile\)	OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi I've got three plants in the conservatory and two plants in the kitchen. (Habenero, Hungarian Purple, Birds Eye, Summat else and summat else). The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some sort of fly. The fly appears to be v.small and brown coloured when young, and leaves lots of white (eggs or carcasses) everywhere all over the plant. Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment. (Apols for any typos & grammar - this post has been sponsered by Dr Carlsberg & my newly installed Perfect Draft system currently dispensing Jupiler). -- Cheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/

	#2
steve auvache	Re: OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi In article <1183953854.611387.219800@e9g2000prf.googlegroups. com>, DoetNietComputeren <Doesnotcompute@gmail.com> writes >On Jul 8, 8:23 pm, steve auvache <dont_s...@thecow.me.uk> wrote: > >> >Care to expand old man? >> >> Cross pollination innit. > >Ahh, gotchya. > >> Proper gardeners will want to save seed from >> successful pants > >whilst still damp, or once it's crusty? Mature is good, mature is your friend. As far as I am aware once the fruit has started to colour, before this the seed may be too immature. The easy way to test it is to take some early in the season and see how readily they germinate, if they don't then wait for a more mature fruit and try again. Don't use the ones from Tescos they will have been selected to grow best under intensive commercial conditions with lots of added chemical food supplements. To begin your Very Own Strain buy seed aimed at the amateur grower from a reputable seed merchant or, as I do, get plants from the garden centre. >Coo, now imagine that, a nice big, thick walled, juicy red pepper with >a bit of a bite to it. yum. A bit would be nice but not so much that anything with a functioning central nervous system dies if comes within 6 feet. Mind you, having said that the terms central nervous system and ukrm don't sit very well together in the same sentence. >Well, there is something to say about heat, but, when I'm cooking, I >do so for flavour. This I am aware of. DNC burgers are yummy burgers. Going back to be bed now. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features

	#3
DoetNietComputeren	Re: OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi On Jul 8, 9:25 pm, steve auvache <dont_s...@thecow.me.uk> wrote: > >> Proper gardeners will want to save seed from > >> successful pants > > >whilst still damp, or once it's crusty? > > Mature is good, mature is your friend. Indeed. Alas, my question was anything but. > >Coo, now imagine that, a nice big, thick walled, juicy red pepper with > >a bit of a bite to it. yum. > > A bit would be nice but not so much that anything with a functioning > central nervous system dies if comes within 6 feet. no, I mean just a bit of a tingle, but with the crispy juicyness of a bell. > >Well, there is something to say about heat, but, when I'm cooking, I > >do so for flavour. > > This I am aware of. DNC burgers are yummy burgers. Far too long since I've had the opportunity. > Going back to be bed now. eww. -- Dnc

	#4
christofire	Re: OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi Brownz (Mobile) wrote: > The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some > sort of fly. > > The fly appears to be v.small and brown coloured when young, and > leaves lots of white (eggs or carcasses) everywhere all over the > plant. > > Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the > Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment. I've found that my plants attract aphids, blackfly and whitefly. A going-over with an organic spray for such things has sorted it out. I'd check your local garden centre for a suitable insecticide, bearing in mind you're going to eat what you grow. I tried finding ladybirds to sort it out, but the few I encouraged onto the plants weren't having any of it and didn't eat a single aphid. FWIW, mine (8ish Apache, grown from one chilli from last year's plant) have started flowering, but no fruit coming yet. I'm hoping I get some, as the chilli vodka it makes is good. -- Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R

	#8
Brownz @ Work	Re: OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi Ace wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:44:52 GMT, "Brownz \(Mobile\)" > <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote: > > >> The two plants in the kitchen appear to have been invaded by some >> sort of fly. > >> Any hints suggestions on what I should do ? I don't want to lose the >> Habanero as its sprouting about 40+ chilis at the moment. > > Not sure why you need to ask such a question really. FFS. 1. Because I know fek all about gardening for a starter. 2. I know other urkm folk have also been growing chiles and peppers. > There are plenty > of food-safe insecticides available. You could start with the > 'organic' types, but IME they only kill what's there at that point and > won't wipe out an infestation, so I'd go for some decent strong > chemical stuff from the start. Ta. I didn't know what they were, and if there was some sort of old wives remedy, rather that insectisides. These are luck more than judgement = <Lets see what happens if I leave some seeds in this pot>. -- Cheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/

	#11
Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: OT : Paging the Chiligroweristi We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> saying something like: >Proper gardeners will want to save seed from >successful pants Trophy trousers? -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day.