Optimax (again?)

I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit
of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium
unleaded?

Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?

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GSX600F, FZS 600.

"Cerberus" <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
benefit
> of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard
premium
> unleaded?
>
> Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?

Personal experience showed that my Goldwing (When I had it running) ran far
smoother. The SOBeemer also runs a little better, although I haven't really
clocked the mileage difference if there was any on either.
Acceleration and engine smoothness is definitely noticeable, as was
throttle response.
Someone who wants to differ, offer alternative opinions, or just throw in
their 2p worth will be along soon no doubt.

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BMW K100 RS 1984
"Fairly Quick" status. Silver level
BotaFOF #19. E.O.S.M 2001/2002/2003.
B.O.S.M 2003.FURSWB#1 KotL..YTC449
PM#7

Cerberus wrote:

> I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
> benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over
> standard premium unleaded?

I used it once, with the intention of seeing if it reduced carb icing in
the Monster. I wasn't really expecting it to make a difference, but there
really seemed to be a reduction in icing, and seemed to run far smoother.
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"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cerberus wrote:
>
> > I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
> > benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over
> > standard premium unleaded?
>
> I used it once, with the intention of seeing if it reduced carb icing in
> the Monster. I wasn't really expecting it to make a difference, but there
> really seemed to be a reduction in icing, and seemed to run far smoother.

I had a Nova GTE that had been fitted with a big valve head by Courtenay -
running the car with Optimax at least one tank in three seemed to make it
much more responsive and torquey.

--
JackH

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus"
<dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit
>of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium
>unleaded?
>
>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?

For roads bikes, probably not.

We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty high,
and we need the equivalent of four star.
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Cerberus wrote:

>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit
>of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium
>unleaded?
>
>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?

MCN said no a few months ago.

--
Ben Blaney

Ben Blaney wrote:
> Cerberus wrote:
>
>> I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
>> benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over
>> standard premium unleaded?
>>
>> Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?
>
> MCN said no a few months ago.

*splutter*

--
'Hog

Champ wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus"
> <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
>>benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over
>>standard premium unleaded?
>>
>>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?
>
> For roads bikes, probably not.
>
> We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty high,
> and we need the equivalent of four star.

I thought standard un-leaded was the equivalent of 4*?
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"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Champ wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus"
> > <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for
the
> >>benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this
over
> >>standard premium unleaded?
> >>
> >>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?
> >
> > For roads bikes, probably not.
> >
> > We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty
high,
> > and we need the equivalent of four star.
>
> I thought standard un-leaded was the equivalent of 4*?

Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON.

Super unleaded is 98 RON.

--
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VN800 Classic

"Ben Blaney" <benblaney@ukrm.net> wrote in message
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> Cerberus wrote:
>
> >I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the
benefit
> >of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard
premium
> >unleaded?
> >
> >Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice?
>
> MCN said no a few months ago.

A ringing endorsement if I ever heard one...

FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I can't
tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and
cleaned during the 8k service.

--
Dan White
(dan@finex666.org.uk)
Perform an exorcism when replying.

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said:

> Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON.
>
> Super unleaded is 98 RON.

So Super Unleaded is better than Optimax?

I thought I noticed a difference when I accidentally filled up with SU
one day...

--
Smile...tomorrow will be worse
CBR1000FL

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:35:01 -0000, "Dan White" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I can't
>tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and
>cleaned during the 8k service.

Carbs?

How quaint.
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:12:34 -0000, Whinging Courier
<markonusenetTAKEITAWAY@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said:
>
>> Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON.
>>
>> Super unleaded is 98 RON.
>
>So Super Unleaded is better than Optimax?

Optimax[1] is a brand of super unleaded.

[1] Shell's?
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but to prevent life escaping from us."
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"Ben" <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:12:34 -0000, Whinging Courier
> <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said:
> >
> >> Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON.
> >>
> >> Super unleaded is 98 RON.
> >
> >So Super Unleaded is better than Optimax?
>
> Optimax[1] is a brand of super unleaded.
>
>
> [1] Shell's?

Optimax is Shell's, and they claim it is better than SU,
with a higher octane rating. If you google for optimax
petrol, there is a website that tells you all you could want
to know.

--
Steve Brassett
VN800 Classic

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said:

> Optimax is Shell's, and they claim it is better than SU,
> with a higher octane rating. If you google for optimax
> petrol, there is a website that tells you all you could want
> to know.

fangu. I'll have a lookski when the volcanos have finished on channel 5

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"Salad Dodger" <salad.dodger@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:c2ft26$1lg6co$1@ID-26562.news.uni-berlin.de...
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:35:01 -0000, "Dan White" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I
can't
> >tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and
> >cleaned during the 8k service.
>
> Carbs?
>
> How quaint.

Yeah yeah. We did this one already!

I was quite happy to get a '98 Blackbird with <4000 miles on it for the
price I did, and TBH I don't think my riding is sufficiently professional
that I would be bothered about the benefits of FI.

--
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(dan@finex666.org.uk)
Perform an exorcism when replying.

	#1
Cerberus	Optimax (again?) I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium unleaded? Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? -- Cerberus, G0LZX GSX600F, FZS 600.

	#2
Robbo	Re: Optimax (again?) "Cerberus" <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:NqF2c.119$g35.38@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... > I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit > of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium > unleaded? > > Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? Personal experience showed that my Goldwing (When I had it running) ran far smoother. The SOBeemer also runs a little better, although I haven't really clocked the mileage difference if there was any on either. Acceleration and engine smoothness is definitely noticeable, as was throttle response. Someone who wants to differ, offer alternative opinions, or just throw in their 2p worth will be along soon no doubt. -- -- Robbo 1500GL 1988 Goldwing (Rebuild in process) BMW K100 RS 1984 "Fairly Quick" status. Silver level BotaFOF #19. E.O.S.M 2001/2002/2003. B.O.S.M 2003.FURSWB#1 KotL..YTC449 PM#7

	#3
Catman	Re: Optimax (again?) Cerberus wrote: > I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the > benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over > standard premium unleaded? I used it once, with the intention of seeing if it reduced carb icing in the Monster. I wasn't really expecting it to make a difference, but there really seemed to be a reduction in icing, and seemed to run far smoother. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

	#4
Jack Hackett	Re: Optimax (again?) "Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6kH2c.10088005$Of.1673704@news.easynews.com.. . > Cerberus wrote: > > > I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the > > benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over > > standard premium unleaded? > > I used it once, with the intention of seeing if it reduced carb icing in > the Monster. I wasn't really expecting it to make a difference, but there > really seemed to be a reduction in icing, and seemed to run far smoother. I had a Nova GTE that had been fitted with a big valve head by Courtenay - running the car with Optimax at least one tank in three seemed to make it much more responsive and torquey. -- JackH

	#5
Champ	Re: Optimax (again?) On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus" <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit >of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium >unleaded? > >Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? For roads bikes, probably not. We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty high, and we need the equivalent of four star. -- Champ : Old enough to know better GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX-7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0;BotToS#2;BOTAFO(T\|F)#35;UKRMFBC#2;IHABWTMM J#3;MCT#5;WG*#1;BONY#40;DFV#8;IbW#17;SBS#34;BHaLC# 1 Racing : www.team-ukrm.co.uk. Vanity Publishing : www.champ.org.uk

	#6
Ben Blaney	Re: Optimax (again?) Cerberus wrote: >I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit >of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium >unleaded? > >Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? MCN said no a few months ago. -- Ben Blaney

	#7
'Hog	Re: Optimax (again?) Ben Blaney wrote: > Cerberus wrote: > >> I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the >> benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over >> standard premium unleaded? >> >> Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? > > MCN said no a few months ago. splutter -- 'Hog

	#8
Catman	Re: Optimax (again?) Champ wrote: > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus" > <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the >>benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over >>standard premium unleaded? >> >>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? > > For roads bikes, probably not. > > We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty high, > and we need the equivalent of four star. I thought standard un-leaded was the equivalent of 4*? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

	#9
Steve Brassett	Re: Optimax (again?) "Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message news:dlI2c.1927746$9p3.351657@news.easynews.com... > Champ wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:27:08 -0000, "Cerberus" > > <dontuspamme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > >>I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the > >>benefit of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over > >>standard premium unleaded? > >> > >>Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? > > > > For roads bikes, probably not. > > > > We use it on the race bike cos the compression ratio is pretty high, > > and we need the equivalent of four star. > > I thought standard un-leaded was the equivalent of 4*? Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON. Super unleaded is 98 RON. -- Steve Brassett VN800 Classic

	#10
Dan White	Re: Optimax (again?) "Ben Blaney" <benblaney@ukrm.net> wrote in message news:29hm40l4je2g3uup0ogrlgq2marfa0rmk6@4ax.com... > Cerberus wrote: > > >I know this has probably been well discussed in the past but for the benefit > >of me, has anyone noticed any difference in using this over standard premium > >unleaded? > > > >Is it worth the extra couple of pence on a tank of juice? > > MCN said no a few months ago. A ringing endorsement if I ever heard one... FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I can't tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and cleaned during the 8k service. -- Dan White (dan@finex666.org.uk) Perform an exorcism when replying.

	#11
Whinging Courier	Re: Optimax (again?) In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said: > Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON. > > Super unleaded is 98 RON. So Super Unleaded is better than Optimax? I thought I noticed a difference when I accidentally filled up with SU one day... -- Smile...tomorrow will be worse CBR1000FL

	#12
Salad Dodger	Re: Optimax (again?) On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:35:01 -0000, "Dan White" <me@privacy.net> wrote: >FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I can't >tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and >cleaned during the 8k service. Carbs? How quaint. -- \| ___ Salad Dodger \|/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C \|_\_____/_\| ..62743../..14835.../..3157./.19406 (>\|_\|_\|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5 \|__\|_\|__\| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG* \ \|^\| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \\|^\|/ ANORAK#17 '^'

	#14
Steve Brassett	Re: Optimax (again?) "Ben" <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message news:3s0n4090gp01ca9tqvff552kcuconkrqae@4ax.com... > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:12:34 -0000, Whinging Courier > <markonusenetTAKEITAWAY@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >In uk.rec.motorcycles, Steve Brassett said: > > > >> Nope - unleaded is 95 RON, and 4-star was 97 RON. > >> > >> Super unleaded is 98 RON. > > > >So Super Unleaded is better than Optimax? > > Optimax[1] is a brand of super unleaded. > > > [1] Shell's? Optimax is Shell's, and they claim it is better than SU, with a higher octane rating. If you google for optimax petrol, there is a website that tells you all you could want to know. -- Steve Brassett VN800 Classic

	#16
Dan White	Re: Optimax (again?) "Salad Dodger" <salad.dodger@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:c2ft26$1lg6co$1@ID-26562.news.uni-berlin.de... > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:35:01 -0000, "Dan White" <me@privacy.net> wrote: > > >FWIW, I was sure I noticed a difference when I had the ZZR600, but I can't > >tell on the Blackbird, especially not since the carbs were stripped and > >cleaned during the 8k service. > > Carbs? > > How quaint. Yeah yeah. We did this one already! I was quite happy to get a '98 Blackbird with <4000 miles on it for the price I did, and TBH I don't think my riding is sufficiently professional that I would be bothered about the benefits of FI. -- Dan White (dan@finex666.org.uk) Perform an exorcism when replying.