must be a scam?

200133576844

surely?

--
/Simon

Simon Wilson wrote:
> 200133576844
>
> surely?

Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual
warning signs.
If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's
correct paperwork then it looks a bargain
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

> Simon Wilson wrote:
>> 200133576844
>>
>> surely?
>
> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual
> warning signs.
> If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's
> correct paperwork then it looks a bargain

Bet he says

have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you:
- your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)...
As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ).
Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest...

--
Triumph SpeedMaster

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of
> the usual warning signs.

Zero feedback seller.
Short description
Poor use of English ("Delivery can be done in the UK!")
Run a mile.

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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:14:36 +0000 (UTC), PWCA <pwca@deadspam.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:
>
>> Simon Wilson wrote:
>>> 200133576844
>>>
>>> surely?
>>
>> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual
>> warning signs.
>> If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's
>> correct paperwork then it looks a bargain
>
>Bet he says
>
> have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you:
>- your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)...
>As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ).
>Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest...

" have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major
business problems so pick up isn't an option"

This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted
yesterday.
--
Champ

ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

"Champ" <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
news:cq22b3hu12c7j0k42grgv13q189ig2kdi4@4ax.com...

Wotcha.

> " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major
> business problems so pick up isn't an option"
>
> This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted
> yesterday.

Also used when trying to sell a Triumph Bonneville earlier this week.

--
--
^..^ Lone Wolf
www.moonshiners.org.uk

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

<snip>

It's this bit

"I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you
about
this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them
( please go through them exactly )."

That makes me think once you have agreed to buy, you'll receive
instructions from a fake Ebay page.

--
K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

Champ wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:14:36 +0000 (UTC), PWCA <pwca@deadspam.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> >
> >> Simon Wilson wrote:
> >>> 200133576844
> > > >
> >>> surely?
> >>
> >> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of
> the usual >> warning signs.
> >> If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the
> bike's >> correct paperwork then it looks a bargain
> >
> > Bet he says
> >
> > have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major
> > business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that...
> > Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The
> > selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include
> > free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have
> > access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any
> > delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we
> > can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the
> > eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full
> > name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon
> > as the above details will be provided I'll start the official
> > transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll
> > also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please
> > go through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you
> > for your interest...
>
> " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major
> business problems so pick up isn't an option"
>
> This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted
> yesterday.

.... and in the classified ad for the Norton Rotary, and several other
ebay classifieds that were mentioned on Chopperbuilder.

It's always the same pattern - zero rated business seller, classified
ad and a price that's somewhere between too good and way too cheap.

--
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Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html
"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

Simon Wilson wrote:
> 200133576844
>
> surely?
>
Well what a surprise. I sent him an e-mail, asking for more photos and
the registration number. Here's the reply:

I'm sorry to say but I don't have any other pics of the bike... You can
buy the bike for the price of £1150 . For this price I will also include
free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access
to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can
be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both
protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need
to receive some details from you:
- your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)...
As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official
transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also
receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go
through them exactly ).
Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest...

--
/Simon

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> Simon Wilson wrote:
>> 200133576844
>>
>> surely?
>
> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual
> warning signs.
Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure?

Simon Wilson wrote:

> Simon Wilson wrote:
> > 200133576844
> >
> > surely?
> >
> Well what a surprise. I sent him an e-mail, asking for more photos
> and the registration number. Here's the reply:
>
>
> I'm sorry to say but I don't have any other pics of the bike... You
> can buy the bike for the price of £1150 . For this price I will also
> include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also
> have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before
> any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so
> we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the
> eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full
> name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon
> as the above details will be provided I'll start the official
> transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also
> receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go
> through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for
> your interest...

*ding*

That's the email that's being used in all these cases. It's *always*
the same email, they just change the price.

--
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Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html
"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> > Simon Wilson wrote:
> >> 200133576844
> >>
> >> surely?
> >
> > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual
> > warning signs.
> Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure?

IASIAAS

--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

"Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com...
> 200133576844
>
> surely?

If it's too good to be true it usually is.

--
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Carlsberg don't do motorcycles BUT if they did it would be a Kawasaki
www.MollyG.net www.smartmotorcycles.co.uk/
ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F, GSXR750..
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DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply
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"Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com...
> 200133576844
>
> surely?
>
The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue.

--
Drew.H

Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote:

> "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com...
> > 200133576844
> >
> > surely?
> >
> The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue.

Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage.

--
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

Beav wrote:
>
> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those
> who get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives
> in the drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things
> look TOO legit.

A plod friend of mine maintains that the jails are full of _stupid_
criminals, as they don't have the manpower required to catch the clever
ones.

--
"I dunno, I never met the chick."
Ebay tat: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1

Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:

> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who
> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the
> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit.

You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get
scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering.

--
K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message
news:1i27rgd.ou764c1dqu9gcN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com...
> Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote:
>
>> "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com...
>> > 200133576844
>> >
>> > surely?
>> >
>> The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue.
>
> Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage.
>

But there's always one.

My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke,
but one woman phoned her husband.

--
Drew.H

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:07:29 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who
>> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the
>> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit.
>
>You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get
>scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering.

"You can't con an honest man".
--
Champ
I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:07:29 +0100,
> chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who
> >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the
> >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit.
> >
> >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get
> >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering.
>
> "You can't con an honest man".

It's one of those wonderful generalisations that is so nearly true.

One scam where this truism falls down is the 'cheque overpayment' one.
You know: "I'll buy your car, bike, whatever and send you more than you
asked for by banker's draft. Please forward the balance to my shipping
agent who will come and collect it."

This one actually plays on the honesty as well as the gullibility of
people, and a surprising number of people still fall for it (especially
in the US).

That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty and
greed on the part of the victim.

--
K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>> "You can't con an honest man".

>That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty
>and greed on the part of the victim.

Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone
who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely.
--
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rompe l'orologio e invece di presentarsi alle nove si presenta alle
nove meno cinque. Il cialtrone rompe l'orologio e si alza alle undici.
Home page: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/

M J Carley <ensmjc@bath.ac.uk> wrote:

> In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The
> Older Gentleman) writes: >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >> "You can't con an honest man".
>
> >That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty
> >and greed on the part of the victim.
>
> Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone
> who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely.

Apart from the bods who prey on widows and the like, I don't buy that.

--
K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying
something like:

>Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who
>> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the
>> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit.
>
>You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get
>scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering.

Simple deceit works well. Online transactions ultimately depend on trust
and you don't expect to get ripped for a hundred quid or so. Happened to
me last October, for a projection panel.

--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

"Drew.H" <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote in message
news:46b1bc36$0$2243$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1i27rgd.ou764c1dqu9gcN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com...
>> Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com...
>>> > 200133576844
>>> >
>>> > surely?
>>> >
>>> The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue.
>>
>> Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage.
>>
>
> But there's always one.
>
> My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke,
> but one woman phoned her husband.

£1 was obviously too much....

--
Dave
ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop
http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw

	#1
Simon Wilson	must be a scam? 200133576844 surely? -- /Simon

	#2
Dr Zoidberg	Re: must be a scam? Simon Wilson wrote: > 200133576844 > > surely? Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual warning signs. If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's correct paperwork then it looks a bargain -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk

	#3
PWCA	Re: must be a scam? On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote: > Simon Wilson wrote: >> 200133576844 >> >> surely? > > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual > warning signs. > If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's > correct paperwork then it looks a bargain Bet he says have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest... -- Triumph SpeedMaster

	#4
AndrewR	Re: must be a scam? Dr Zoidberg wrote: > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of > the usual warning signs. Zero feedback seller. Short description Poor use of English ("Delivery can be done in the UK!") Run a mile. -- AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

	#5
Champ	Re: must be a scam? On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:14:36 +0000 (UTC), PWCA <pwca@deadspam.com> wrote: >On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote: > >> Simon Wilson wrote: >>> 200133576844 >>> >>> surely? >> >> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual >> warning signs. >> If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's >> correct paperwork then it looks a bargain > >Bet he says > > have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you: >- your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... >As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ). >Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest... " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option" This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted yesterday. -- Champ ZX10R \| GPz750turbo \| GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work.

	#6
^..^ Lone Wolf	Re: must be a scam? "Champ" <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in message news:cq22b3hu12c7j0k42grgv13q189ig2kdi4@4ax.com... Wotcha. > " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major > business problems so pick up isn't an option" > > This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted > yesterday. Also used when trying to sell a Triumph Bonneville earlier this week. -- -- ^..^ Lone Wolf www.moonshiners.org.uk

	#7
The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote: <snip> It's this bit "I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly )." That makes me think once you have agreed to buy, you'll receive instructions from a fake Ebay page. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

	#8
Timo Geusch	Re: must be a scam? Champ wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:14:36 +0000 (UTC), PWCA <pwca@deadspam.com> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:13:36 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote: > > > >> Simon Wilson wrote: > >>> 200133576844 > > > > > >>> surely? > >> > >> Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of > the usual >> warning signs. > >> If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the > bike's >> correct paperwork then it looks a bargain > > > > Bet he says > > > > have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major > > business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... > > Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The > > selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include > > free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have > > access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any > > delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we > > can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the > > eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full > > name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon > > as the above details will be provided I'll start the official > > transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll > > also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please > > go through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you > > for your interest... > > " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major > business problems so pick up isn't an option" > > This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted > yesterday. .... and in the classified ad for the Norton Rotary, and several other ebay classifieds that were mentioned on Chopperbuilder. It's always the same pattern - zero rated business seller, classified ad and a price that's somewhere between too good and way too cheap. -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#10
Higgins	Re: must be a scam? Dr Zoidberg wrote: > Simon Wilson wrote: >> 200133576844 >> >> surely? > > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual > warning signs. Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure?

	#12
The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote: > Dr Zoidberg wrote: > > Simon Wilson wrote: > >> 200133576844 > >> > >> surely? > > > > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual > > warning signs. > Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure? IASIAAS -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

	#13
Molly	Re: must be a scam? "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com... > 200133576844 > > surely? If it's too good to be true it usually is. -- Molly Carlsberg don't do motorcycles BUT if they did it would be a Kawasaki www.MollyG.net www.smartmotorcycles.co.uk/ ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F, GSXR750.. GHPOTHUF#27 TGF, UKRMFBC#7, BOTAFOF#11, YTC#9, GYASB#1. SbS#23. DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply http://www.Sportsbike.org

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Drew.H	Re: must be a scam? "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com... > 200133576844 > > surely? > The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. -- Drew.H

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The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote: > "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com... > > 200133576844 > > > > surely? > > > The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

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Simian	Re: must be a scam? Beav wrote: > > Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those > who get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives > in the drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things > look TOO legit. A plod friend of mine maintains that the jails are full of _stupid_ criminals, as they don't have the manpower required to catch the clever ones. -- "I dunno, I never met the chick." Ebay tat: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1

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The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who > get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the > drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

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Drew.H	Re: must be a scam? "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:1i27rgd.ou764c1dqu9gcN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com... > Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote: > >> "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com... >> > 200133576844 >> > >> > surely? >> > >> The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. > > Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage. > But there's always one. My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke, but one woman phoned her husband. -- Drew.H

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Champ	Re: must be a scam? On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:07:29 +0100, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. > >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. "You can't con an honest man". -- Champ I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R \| GPz750turbo \| GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk

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The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:07:29 +0100, > chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > >Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > > > >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who > >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the > >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. > > > >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get > >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. > > "You can't con an honest man". It's one of those wonderful generalisations that is so nearly true. One scam where this truism falls down is the 'cheque overpayment' one. You know: "I'll buy your car, bike, whatever and send you more than you asked for by banker's draft. Please forward the balance to my shipping agent who will come and collect it." This one actually plays on the honesty as well as the gullibility of people, and a surprising number of people still fall for it (especially in the US). That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty and greed on the part of the victim. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

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M J Carley	Re: must be a scam? In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes: >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote: >> "You can't con an honest man". >That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty >and greed on the part of the victim. Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely. -- Differenza fra il rivoluzionaro e il cialtrone. Il rivoluzionario rompe l'orologio e invece di presentarsi alle nove si presenta alle nove meno cinque. Il cialtrone rompe l'orologio e si alza alle undici. Home page: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/

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The Older Gentleman	Re: must be a scam? M J Carley <ensmjc@bath.ac.uk> wrote: > In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The > Older Gentleman) writes: >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote: > > >> "You can't con an honest man". > > >That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty > >and greed on the part of the victim. > > Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone > who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely. Apart from the bods who prey on widows and the like, I don't buy that. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells.....

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Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: must be a scam? We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying something like: >Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. > >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. Simple deceit works well. Online transactions ultimately depend on trust and you don't expect to get ripped for a hundred quid or so. Happened to me last October, for a projection panel. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day.

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Dave Emerson	Re: must be a scam? "Drew.H" <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote in message news:46b1bc36$0$2243$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in > message > news:1i27rgd.ou764c1dqu9gcN%chateau.murrayTAKETHIS OUT@dsl.pipex.com... >> Drew.H <amh.nospam.at.all@spam.free.v2u.net> wrote: >> >>> "Simon Wilson" <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:13b1uvhke32ru75@corp.supernews.com... >>> > 200133576844 >>> > >>> > surely? >>> > >>> The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. >> >> Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage. >> > > But there's always one. > > My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke, > but one woman phoned her husband. £1 was obviously too much.... -- Dave ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw