FOAK: Race bikes and V5

I see a few race bikes advertised as "Track only no V5" like this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk

What's the scoop?

I am guessing perhaps they were taken straight from the crate so no vehicle
taxes were ever paid?

Nothing in particular to stop a person from building a "hybrid" using a
trashed frame from a breaker that does have a V5 perhaps.

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:37:07 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>I see a few race bikes advertised as "Track only no V5" like this one
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk

>I am guessing perhaps they were taken straight from the crate so no vehicle
>taxes were ever paid?

That's the most charitable explanation. Also the most likely on the
example you quote.

It should be noted that it's not unknown for stolen bikes to end up on
the track. There's a fairly obvious reason why no V5 is available for
them.

>Nothing in particular to stop a person from building a "hybrid" using a
>trashed frame from a breaker that does have a V5 perhaps.

I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I don't
see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use" with its
existing frame, and get an age related plate.
--
Champ
I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:

> I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I don't
> see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use" with its
> existing frame, and get an age related plate.

Payment of various taxations perhaps, if such things exist??

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:21:25 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I don't
>> see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use" with its
>> existing frame, and get an age related plate.
>
>Payment of various taxations perhaps, if such things exist??

But I believe such taxes only apply to new vehicles!

Hmmm.

So, what's to stop you buying a bike "for track use", taking it on one
track day (carefully) and then registering on an age-related plate as
"not new at age of first registration"

Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
--
Champ
I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:21:25 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I
>>> don't see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use"
>>> with its existing frame, and get an age related plate.
>>
>> Payment of various taxations perhaps, if such things exist??
>
> But I believe such taxes only apply to new vehicles!
>
> Hmmm.
>
> So, what's to stop you buying a bike "for track use", taking it on one
> track day (carefully) and then registering on an age-related plate as
> "not new at age of first registration"
>
> Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

See HMR&C isn't daft which is why there will be a catch

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

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Hog	FOAK: Race bikes and V5 I see a few race bikes advertised as "Track only no V5" like this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk What's the scoop? I am guessing perhaps they were taken straight from the crate so no vehicle taxes were ever paid? Nothing in particular to stop a person from building a "hybrid" using a trashed frame from a breaker that does have a V5 perhaps. -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

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Champ	Re: FOAK: Race bikes and V5 On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:37:07 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >I see a few race bikes advertised as "Track only no V5" like this one > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:uk >I am guessing perhaps they were taken straight from the crate so no vehicle >taxes were ever paid? That's the most charitable explanation. Also the most likely on the example you quote. It should be noted that it's not unknown for stolen bikes to end up on the track. There's a fairly obvious reason why no V5 is available for them. >Nothing in particular to stop a person from building a "hybrid" using a >trashed frame from a breaker that does have a V5 perhaps. I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I don't see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use" with its existing frame, and get an age related plate. -- Champ I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R \| GPz750turbo \| GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk

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Hog	Re: FOAK: Race bikes and V5 Champ wrote: > I'm not even sure you'd need to rebuild it into a new frame. I don't > see why you couldn't register it as "not new at first use" with its > existing frame, and get an age related plate. Payment of various taxations perhaps, if such things exist?? -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400