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OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! |
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"Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... > > OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? So far: (Flat!) coca cola for gummed up carb jets/emulsion tubes/needles. Water/washing up liquid general small parts degreasing. Flash liquid/water. (this has an awesome cleaning power). Not tried trike or other solvents yet. JB |
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? I've used white spirit and it works. The destructions say not to use solvents but I reckon thats 'cos the liquid gets warm while its working. As long as you use it somewhere thats well ventilated and you don't light up next to it, there's no promble. -- Andrew |
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On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:39:43 -0000, "JB" <nil@spam.net>
enlightened us thusly: > >"Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in >message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >> >> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >> fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? > >So far: >(Flat!) coca cola for gummed up carb jets/emulsion tubes/needles. >Water/washing up liquid general small parts degreasing. >Flash liquid/water. (this has an awesome cleaning power). cool. Mind, it's amazing what it does with just plain H2O. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! |
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:39:43 -0000, "JB" <nil@spam.net> > enlightened us thusly: > >> >> "Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> >> wrote in message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >>> >>> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other >>> working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what >>> results? >> >> So far: >> (Flat!) coca cola for gummed up carb jets/emulsion tubes/needles. >> Water/washing up liquid general small parts degreasing. >> Flash liquid/water. (this has an awesome cleaning power). > > cool. Mind, it's amazing what it does with just plain H2O. When I worked at HP in Bristol, we had a big ultrasonic jobby in the prototype area. First tank was Teepol, second and third were water. Breathtakingly effective with trainers, as it happens... -- platypus "Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative." |
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"Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in message news:d0vtv2l7g9bcis2b7dht1b0e9mfb4fd189@4ax.com... > On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:39:43 -0000, "JB" <nil@spam.net> > enlightened us thusly: > >> >>"Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in >>message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >>> >>> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >>> fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? >> >>So far: >>(Flat!) coca cola for gummed up carb jets/emulsion tubes/needles. >>Water/washing up liquid general small parts degreasing. >>Flash liquid/water. (this has an awesome cleaning power). > > cool. Mind, it's amazing what it does with just plain H2O. > -- You want to see what it will do with coca cola with the fizz still in it :>) JB |
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"platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news 4DLh.8438$DX5.7661@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...> Austin Shackles wrote: >> On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:39:43 -0000, "JB" <nil@spam.net> >> enlightened us thusly: >> >>> >>> "Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> >>> wrote in message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other >>>> working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what >>>> results? >>> >>> So far: >>> (Flat!) coca cola for gummed up carb jets/emulsion tubes/needles. >>> Water/washing up liquid general small parts degreasing. >>> Flash liquid/water. (this has an awesome cleaning power). >> >> cool. Mind, it's amazing what it does with just plain H2O. > > When I worked at HP in Bristol, we had a big ultrasonic jobby in the > prototype area. First tank was Teepol, second and third were water. > Breathtakingly effective with trainers, as it happens... > Putting the brown in to Brown Sauce since 1976. JB |
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Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote:
> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? What ultrasonic widget are you using? I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a make/model/price/source? -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... > > OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? Is this a Lidl -Aldi type cheapie if so be careful of the duty cycle I managed to burn mine out with repeated cycles without a rest Then i RTFM ;( Biological washing power works well as do the other suggestions, but make sure that the coke is really flat otherwise you come back to a very sticky bubble bath all over the work bench. - |
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On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:44:19 +0000,
chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly: >Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote: > >> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >> fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? > >What ultrasonic widget are you using? > >I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a >make/model/price/source? elcheapo one from Aldi or somesuch. a friend picked it up for me. Small, mind, it holds just over a pint of fluid. handy for small things though. I did me watch, took about 5 or 6 goes but it successfully degunged the expanding metal bracelet with almost no effort. tried the tea strainer, with mixed results. got to find out what fluid dissolves tannin. coke might... -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! |
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On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:00:01 GMT, "Mark" <Mark@127.0.0.1>
enlightened us thusly: > >Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in >message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >> >> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >> fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? > >Is this a Lidl -Aldi type cheapie if so be careful of the duty cycle >I managed to burn mine out with repeated cycles without a rest >Then i RTFM ;( yes, it is. point noted. >Biological washing power works well as do the other suggestions, but make >sure that the coke is really flat otherwise you come back to a very sticky >bubble bath all over the work bench. hehe. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! |
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? Ammonia is smelly but it works. Dilute it of course -- Howard R100RT Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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Mark wrote
> >Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote in >message news:074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com... >> >> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >> fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? > >Is this a Lidl -Aldi type cheapie if so be careful of the duty cycle >I managed to burn mine out with repeated cycles without a rest >Then i RTFM ;( That is useful to know - I got an Aldi one and the first thing I did was throw away the Manual. -- Roger Hunt |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:00:15 +0000, Roger Hunt <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote in <OdGmiJAfr9$FFwmW@nospam.demon.co.uk>: > Mark wrote >>Is this a Lidl -Aldi type cheapie if so be careful of the duty cycle >>I managed to burn mine out with repeated cycles without a rest >>Then i RTFM ;( > That is useful to know - I got an Aldi one and the first thing I did was > throw away the Manual. Sounds like Mark's got a spare one if you need it... -- Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty". |
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote
>On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:00:15 +0000, Roger Hunt <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> > wrote in <OdGmiJAfr9$FFwmW@nospam.demon.co.uk>: >> Mark wrote > >>>Is this a Lidl -Aldi type cheapie if so be careful of the duty cycle >>>I managed to burn mine out with repeated cycles without a rest >>>Then i RTFM ;( > >> That is useful to know - I got an Aldi one and the first thing I did was >> throw away the Manual. > > Sounds like Mark's got a spare one if you need it... > Probably saturated with Coca-cola and several other noxious liquids, and unreadable with the pages stuck together, but thanks for the thought. -- Roger Hunt |
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> > OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working > fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? Paraffin works OK on tarry/oily deposits, and is very good at de-gunking carbs. Doesn't make them shine, but does dissolve gummy deposits. Flat cola drinks, preferably sugar free have their uses for cleaning metals. Detergent designed for automatic washing machines has its uses. Dishwasher tablets work OK too. Not a whole tab though. Dilute acetic acid works wonders on Mazak. Not bad at shifting corrosion or at least making it easier to shift. Like cola drinks, the acid seems to lift the surface up a notch too.. Dilute Gunk and other cleaners of that ilk. Dilute ammonia. Things not to use. Petrol, or indeed anything that produces a flammable vapour or mist. ( H&S ) Washing up liquid or detergents without foam suppressors. Just work out how I know that one. The soapy bubbles produced are incredibly fine. That may be down to the bath I was using and the object in it though. ( can be messy ) Neat vinegar or undiluted stop bath. Causes mild issues with breathing if it produces a mist. ( can also damage/eat metal ) For complex shapes, don't just run the bath for hours on end, run it for a while ( within the duty limits ) then rotate the object in the bath. Try and avoid resting the object to be cleaned on the base of the bath. If it has a basket, use it, or suspend the object in the bath. I must get another. Damn useful things they are. |
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On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:13:24 +0000, Moon Badger
<not.valid@all.com.net.org> enlightened us thusly: > >Try and avoid resting the object to be cleaned on the base of the bath. If >it has a basket, use it, or suspend the object in the bath. > hmmm. the book of words for this one says cleaning power is reduced by about 30% if you use the basket thing, which seems to imply otherwise. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! |
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Austin Shackles wrote
>On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:13:24 +0000, Moon Badger ><not.valid@all.com.net.org> enlightened us thusly: >> >>Try and avoid resting the object to be cleaned on the base of the bath. If >>it has a basket, use it, or suspend the object in the bath. >> >hmmm. the book of words for this one says cleaning power is reduced by >about 30% if you use the basket thing, which seems to imply otherwise. > I thought the basket was more to stop things rattling in an irritating manner, and to stop delicate things rattling around and getting scuffed. -- Roger Hunt |
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In message <074tv2p1uc0m42mvpef8f1g1osr9r61gtr@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles
<austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> writes > >OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other working >fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what results? "Decon 90" surface cleaner and "Hibiscrub" have been used to clean carbs from time to time. -- Tim http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/ |
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Roger Hunt wrote:
> Austin Shackles wrote >>On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:13:24 +0000, Moon Badger >><not.valid@all.com.net.org> enlightened us thusly: >>> >>>Try and avoid resting the object to be cleaned on the base of the bath. >>>If it has a basket, use it, or suspend the object in the bath. >>> >>hmmm. the book of words for this one says cleaning power is reduced by >>about 30% if you use the basket thing, which seems to imply otherwise. >> > I thought the basket was more to stop things rattling in an irritating > manner, and to stop delicate things rattling around and getting scuffed. *Ding* Actually, suspending the object in the bath seems to work best ( for me ), but it is a faff. This way, the basket doesn't get in the way, things aren't scuffling about in the bath, and it doesn't make irritating noises just on the threshold of your hearing range. Noises that make you want to kill. That may again just be me. |
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:44:19 +0000, > chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened > us thusly: > >> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote: >> > > tried the tea strainer, with mixed results. got to find out what fluid > dissolves tannin. coke might... Flash spray with bleach is almost magical at cleaning teapots & strainers etc |
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Moon Badger wrote
>Roger Hunt wrote: > >> Austin Shackles wrote >>>On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:13:24 +0000, Moon Badger >>><not.valid@all.com.net.org> enlightened us thusly: >>>> >>>>Try and avoid resting the object to be cleaned on the base of the bath. >>>>If it has a basket, use it, or suspend the object in the bath. >>>> >>>hmmm. the book of words for this one says cleaning power is reduced by >>>about 30% if you use the basket thing, which seems to imply otherwise. >>> >> I thought the basket was more to stop things rattling in an irritating >> manner, and to stop delicate things rattling around and getting scuffed. > >*Ding* > >Actually, suspending the object in the bath seems to work best ( for me ), >but it is a faff. This way, the basket doesn't get in the way, things >aren't scuffling about in the bath, and it doesn't make irritating noises >just on the threshold of your hearing range. Noises that make you want to >kill. That may again just be me. > My hearing was damaged by wearing open-face helmets I think, so those psychosis-inducing frequencies pass me by (the voices say they do, anyway). -- Roger Hunt |
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In message <sHXLh.119150$nW6.96578@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , Ken
<ken.oilyrag@googlemail.com> writes >Austin Shackles wrote: >> On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:44:19 +0000, >> chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened >> us thusly: >> >>> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> >>>wrote: >>> > >> tried the tea strainer, with mixed results. got to find out what >>fluid >> dissolves tannin. coke might... > >Flash spray with bleach is almost magical at cleaning teapots & >strainers etc denture cleaner is great for removing tannin. -- Tim http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/ |
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Roger Hunt wrote:
> Moon Badger wrote >>Roger Hunt wrote: >> <snip> >> >>Actually, suspending the object in the bath seems to work best ( for me ), >>but it is a faff. This way, the basket doesn't get in the way, things >>aren't scuffling about in the bath, and it doesn't make irritating noises >>just on the threshold of your hearing range. Noises that make you want to >>kill. That may again just be me. >> > My hearing was damaged by wearing open-face helmets I think, so those > psychosis-inducing frequencies pass me by (the voices say they do, > anyway). Mine was wrecked by too many years commuting on motorways without ear plugs. Noisy as hell AGV helmets didn't help either. One thing it has made my hearing is hypersensitive to certain frequencies, and guess what niggles. Along with certain ink jet printers ( which scream staccato ) and televisions with ageing high voltage circuits. |
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Moon Badger wrote
(irritating noises) >televisions with ageing high voltage circuits. Something in my computer system sometimes produces a high-pitched sort of resonating noise, and I have to kick it to make it stop for a while. -- Roger Hunt |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote: > > > OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other > > working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what > > results? > > What ultrasonic widget are you using? > > I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a > make/model/price/source? Whatever you do don't be tempted to buy the cheapo larger Chinese ones on ebay. I did and regretted it. Although the seller I used gave good service (replaced it twice), they just don't last. First one lasted a couple of hours, second one a couple of seconds, third one a couple of minutes. I found a largish second hand one on ebay for about 80 quid I think it was. New price over 500. Even with that it took aaaaages to clean out my CB750 carbs. HTH -- /Simon |
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Simon Wilson <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote: > > > Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote: > > > > > OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other > > > working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what > > > results? > > > > What ultrasonic widget are you using? > > > > I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a > > make/model/price/source? > > Whatever you do don't be tempted to buy the cheapo larger Chinese ones > on ebay. I did and regretted it. Although the seller I used gave good > service (replaced it twice), they just don't last. First one lasted a > couple of hours, second one a couple of seconds, third one a couple of > minutes. I found a largish second hand one on ebay for about 80 quid I > think it was. New price over 500. Even with that it took aaaaages to > clean out my CB750 carbs. > Good advice, ta. -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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Roger Hunt <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Moon Badger wrote > (irritating noises) > > >televisions with ageing high voltage circuits. > > Something in my computer system sometimes produces a high-pitched sort > of resonating noise, and I have to kick it to make it stop for a while. My kids produce the same effect. -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 Z650 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Simon Wilson <siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The Older Gentleman wrote: >> >>> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, the destructions say to use water. has anyone tried other >>>> working fluids, or adding soap, or suchlike, and if so with what >>>> results? >>> What ultrasonic widget are you using? >>> >>> I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a >>> make/model/price/source? >> Whatever you do don't be tempted to buy the cheapo larger Chinese ones >> on ebay. I did and regretted it. Although the seller I used gave good >> service (replaced it twice), they just don't last. First one lasted a >> couple of hours, second one a couple of seconds, third one a couple of >> minutes. I found a largish second hand one on ebay for about 80 quid I >> think it was. New price over 500. Even with that it took aaaaages to >> clean out my CB750 carbs. >> > > Good advice, ta. > > As I think I've mentioned here before, or maybe it was that -other- NG, UKRM, feel free to underground railway me bits if you need 'em doing. Near jn 13 M4. -- /Simon |
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> > Whatever you do don't be tempted to buy the cheapo larger Chinese ones > on ebay. I did and regretted it. Although the seller I used gave good > service (replaced it twice), they just don't last. First one lasted a > couple of hours, second one a couple of seconds, third one a couple of > minutes. I found a largish second hand one on ebay for about 80 quid I > think it was. New price over 500. Even with that it took aaaaages to > clean out my CB750 carbs. > > HTH Can you give the brand names of the Good & the Bad - just so that I know what to avoid? Thanks, Steve. |
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Steve Borland wrote:
> Simon Wilson wrote: > > > > Whatever you do don't be tempted to buy the cheapo larger Chinese > > ones on ebay. I did and regretted it. Although the seller I used > > gave good service (replaced it twice), they just don't last. First > > one lasted a couple of hours, second one a couple of seconds, third > > one a couple of minutes. I found a largish second hand one on ebay > > for about 80 quid I think it was. New price over 500. Even with > > that it took aaaaages to clean out my CB750 carbs. > > > > HTH > > Can you give the brand names of the Good & the Bad - just so that I > know what to avoid? > > Thanks, > Steve. Ok, the bad ones were called "Sonic Wave" model DSD150A2Q The good one I now have was marketed by RS Components, but almost certainly not made by them. HTH -- /Simon |
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In article <uabvv2d58jrjghvuodpsbb4nirtif2jail@4ax.com>, Austin
Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> writes: > On or around Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:44:19 +0000, > chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened > us thusly: > > >I've been thinking of buying one. Can anyone recommend a > >make/model/price/source? > > elcheapo one from Aldi or somesuch. a friend picked it up for me. Small, > mind, it holds just over a pint of fluid. handy for small things though. I > did me watch, took about 5 or 6 goes but it successfully degunged the > expanding metal bracelet with almost no effort. > > tried the tea strainer, with mixed results. got to find out what fluid > dissolves tannin. coke might... That's the one I got. Even with a drop of washing up liquid in and two shots at it, it didn't improve my bass strings at all. -- Mike Fleming |