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  #1
Tom Morgan
 
Default Registration anomaly

I was looking at a bike for sale today. The registration document confirms
the "W" reg. number but says the bike was first registered in 2002. Can
anyone explain how this might have come about?

Tom



 
  #2
Wicked Uncle Nigel
 
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Tom Morgan
<morganbooks@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>I was looking at a bike for sale today. The registration document confirms
>the "W" reg. number but says the bike was first registered in 2002. Can
>anyone explain how this might have come about?


If it's an import the plate will be age-related for its year of
manufacture, but the V5 will show the date of first registration in the
UK.

Or it may be a "personal" registration that's been transferred onto the
vehicle.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 
  #3
Dr Ivan D. Reid
 
Default Re: Registration anomaly

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:02:17 GMT, Tom Morgan <morganbooks@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote in <tvhWf.285920$YJ4.190191@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk >:
> I was looking at a bike for sale today. The registration document confirms
> the "W" reg. number but says the bike was first registered in 2002. Can
> anyone explain how this might have come about?


An import? I have a GSX600FL, on an H plate, first registered
_in the UK_ 03/07/2000. I've owned it since new, bought on 31/06/1991.

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  #4
Brian
 
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"Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
news:1t6AS9cpeaKEJA39@rcav8r.demon.co.uk...
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Tom Morgan
> <morganbooks@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
> >I was looking at a bike for sale today. The registration document

confirms
> >the "W" reg. number but says the bike was first registered in 2002. Can
> >anyone explain how this might have come about?

>
> If it's an import the plate will be age-related for its year of
> manufacture, but the V5 will show the date of first registration in the
> UK.
>
> Or it may be a "personal" registration that's been transferred onto the
> vehicle.
>

I thought the new V5C had both dates on it, first reg in UK and first reg
anywhere.


 
  #5
Wicked Uncle Nigel
 
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Brian
<blecnospam@tesco.net> typed
>
>"Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:1t6AS9cpeaKEJA39@rcav8r.demon.co.uk...
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Tom Morgan
>> <morganbooks@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>> >I was looking at a bike for sale today. The registration document

>confirms
>> >the "W" reg. number but says the bike was first registered in 2002. Can
>> >anyone explain how this might have come about?

>>
>> If it's an import the plate will be age-related for its year of
>> manufacture, but the V5 will show the date of first registration in the
>> UK.
>>
>> Or it may be a "personal" registration that's been transferred onto the
>> vehicle.
>>

>I thought the new V5C had both dates on it, first reg in UK and first reg
>anywhere.


It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
that.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 
  #6
Brian
 
Default Re: Registration anomaly


> >I thought the new V5C had both dates on it, first reg in UK and first reg
> >anywhere.

>
> It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
> that.
>
> --
> Wicked Uncle Nigel -


Mine has, at top of LH page,
A registration mark
B Date of first registration
(B1) Date of first registration in the UK
In my case, B & B1 are the same.


 
  #7
Wicked Uncle Nigel
 
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Brian
<blecnospam@tesco.net> typed
>
>> >I thought the new V5C had both dates on it, first reg in UK and first reg
>> >anywhere.

>>
>> It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
>> that.
>>
>> --
>> Wicked Uncle Nigel -

>
>Mine has, at top of LH page,
>A registration mark
>B Date of first registration
>(B1) Date of first registration in the UK
>In my case, B & B1 are the same.


<looks again>

Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact, just
a year) for "declared manufactured".

I think they make it up as they go along.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 
  #8
Adrian
 
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Wicked Uncle Nigel (wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

> Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
> import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact,
> just a year) for "declared manufactured".
>
> I think they make it up as they go along.


You think that's bad?

I've got one here that says first reg 2001, declared manufactured 1962,
Historic Vehicle...

Small drawback... It also says "Declared new at first registration"...

Oh, and if you do an RAC vehicle data search on the plate, it comes up with
the manufacturer blank and model blank.

You'd almost think they'd never seen a VeloSolex before.
<pseudo-gallic shrug>
 
  #9
Wicked Uncle Nigel
 
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrian
<toomany2cvs@gmail.com> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel (wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk) gurgled happily,
>sounding much like they were saying :
>
>> Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
>> import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact,
>> just a year) for "declared manufactured".
>>
>> I think they make it up as they go along.

>
>You think that's bad?
>
>I've got one here that says first reg 2001, declared manufactured 1962,
>Historic Vehicle...
>
>Small drawback... It also says "Declared new at first registration"...
>
>Oh, and if you do an RAC vehicle data search on the plate, it comes up with
>the manufacturer blank and model blank.
>
>You'd almost think they'd never seen a VeloSolex before.
><pseudo-gallic shrug>


LOL. I hesitate to ask, but...

What's the taxation class?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 
  #10
Adrian
 
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Wicked Uncle Nigel (wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

> One Velo-Solex may be considered a misfortune, two...


Treatable?

> I'd *love* a go on one some time though. Don't suppose you're attending
> the UKRM BOSM by any chance?


Not planning to - even if I were, I certainly wouldn't be Slowlexing from
Herts (Other corner to you) to Derbyshire...

Hell, if I were, I should have left a month ago.
 
  #11
Tom Morgan
 
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Thanks for all the help with this, everyone.

Tom


 
  #12
sweller
 
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Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> > > It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
> > > that.


> > Mine has, at top of LH page,
> > A registration mark
> > B Date of first registration
> > (B1) Date of first registration in the UK
> > In my case, B & B1 are the same.

>
> <looks again>
>
> Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
> import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact, just
> a year) for "declared manufactured".


My Guzzi's (ex Spanish Plod Bike) V5C has date of registration (in my
case 13 06 1995) followed by "Decl/d Manuf 1979"

--
Simon
 
  #13
Wicked Uncle Nigel
 
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, sweller
<sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
>> > > It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
>> > > that.

>
>> > Mine has, at top of LH page,
>> > A registration mark
>> > B Date of first registration
>> > (B1) Date of first registration in the UK
>> > In my case, B & B1 are the same.

>>
>> <looks again>
>>
>> Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
>> import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact, just
>> a year) for "declared manufactured".

>
>My Guzzi's (ex Spanish Plod Bike) V5C has date of registration (in my
>case 13 06 1995) followed by "Decl/d Manuf 1979"


Phew! I thought for a moment there that you'd got an ex-Franco plod
machine.

What a difference four years make, eh?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 
  #14
Champ
 
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:00:58 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, sweller
><sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> typed
>>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>
>>> > > It has a date of first registration and "(DECL/D MANUF nnnn)" after
>>> > > that.

>>
>>> > Mine has, at top of LH page,
>>> > A registration mark
>>> > B Date of first registration
>>> > (B1) Date of first registration in the UK
>>> > In my case, B & B1 are the same.
>>>
>>> <looks again>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, so does mine for the bike I imported from Holland. For the US
>>> import it has both dates the same, with a different date (in fact, just
>>> a year) for "declared manufactured".

>>
>>My Guzzi's (ex Spanish Plod Bike) V5C has date of registration (in my
>>case 13 06 1995) followed by "Decl/d Manuf 1979"

>
>Phew! I thought for a moment there that you'd got an ex-Franco plod
>machine.
>
>What a difference four years make, eh?


heh. It would be amusing if Simon was riding around on a machine once
used by the fascist oppressors to keep the faces of the glorious
proletariat ground into the dirt.

Perhaps that's why it keeps trying to kill him?
--
Champ
 
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