Champ

750 turbo for spares and repairs :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:SS:UK:1

I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

Champ wrote:
> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>
> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...

Grab it, take the tank, flog the rest. I generally reckon it takes
three weeks of Ebay to make a bike disappear entirely.

First week - the stuff you know people want, like tinware, bodywork,
seat, OE exhausts, clocks, etc.

Second week - brakes, electrical items, switchgear, forks, etc.

Third week - offer the carcass that's left for 99p and no reserve, and
someone will have it.

mike. buckley

In message <pm49935abl5qmm7dakcbs4nbsg890742h6@4ax.com>, Champ
<news@champ.org.uk> writes
>750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...1240173&ssPage
>Name=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>
>I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...

Me neither - and Laura won't accept it as part of the furniture in the
conservatory :-(

Be interesting to see what it fetches - recon turbos are bloody
expensive though - so it'd still end up costing the thick end of a grand
to get it on the road. Probably another one somebody will break.

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
BONY#38

The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, wrote:
>Third week - offer the carcass that's left for 99p and no reserve, and
>someone will have it.

... and ask you to ship it to Scotland, despite the ad saying "collection
only" in five foot high letters. Oh, and then complain about the price that
the local serious transport bods charge for a pallet up to Scotland.

--
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http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Foru...assic/200707/1

Paul - xxx

Champ wrote:
> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>
> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...

How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?

Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
work/fit?

It's close enough to me to have a look at, maybe, and certainly easy for me
to trailer home, and I'd like an old GPZ.

--
Paul - xxx

mike. buckley

In message <5fk1pfF3d5opiU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>Champ wrote:
>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...51240173&ssPag
>>eName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>
>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>
>How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?
You can get them refurbed - but it's not cheap - expect a refurb to cost
you 5-600 quid. You could probably pick up a smoky turbo unit for 50
quid though. I think when they're worn they just burn a bit of oil,
until they go bang. There's a refurb kit available if you happen to be
an engineer - have a google for Hitachi H10-B or look on 750turbo.com
>
>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>work/fit?
Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources, typically
small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy fit.
>
>It's close enough to me to have a look at, maybe, and certainly easy for me
>to trailer home, and I'd like an old GPZ.
The turbo is certainly fun to ride. Well, in a straight line anyway.


--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
BONY#38

Keith G

"mike. buckley" <mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jo+t43guRPlGFwdt@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.u k...
> In message <5fk1pfF3d5opiU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>>Champ wrote:
>>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...51240173&ssPag
>>>eName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>>
>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>
>>How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?
> You can get them refurbed - but it's not cheap - expect a refurb to
> cost you 5-600 quid. You could probably pick up a smoky turbo unit
> for 50 quid though. I think when they're worn they just burn a bit of
> oil, until they go bang. There's a refurb kit available if you happen
> to be an engineer - have a google for Hitachi H10-B or look on
> 750turbo.com
>>
>>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>work/fit?
> Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
> fit.


Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
time anyway...

(???)

mike. buckley

In message <T5ydnZx45JnGaAnbnZ2dnUVZ8qijnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
<keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>"mike. buckley" <mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:jo+t43guRPlGFwdt@toastyhamster.freeserve.co. uk...
>> In message <5fk1pfF3d5opiU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
>> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>>>Champ wrote:
>>>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...51240173&ssPag
>>>>eName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>>>
>>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>>
>>>How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?
>> You can get them refurbed - but it's not cheap - expect a refurb to
>> cost you 5-600 quid. You could probably pick up a smoky turbo unit
>> for 50 quid though. I think when they're worn they just burn a bit of
>> oil, until they go bang. There's a refurb kit available if you happen
>> to be an engineer - have a google for Hitachi H10-B or look on
>> 750turbo.com
>>>
>>>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>>work/fit?
>> Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
>> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
>> fit.
>
>
>Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
>quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
>time anyway...
>
>(???)
>

I think you need to ride one.

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
BONY#38

Keith G

"mike. buckley" <mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:h5Z9MGkzfPlGFwd7@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.u k...
> In message <T5ydnZx45JnGaAnbnZ2dnUVZ8qijnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
> <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>>
>>"mike. buckley" <mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:jo+t43guRPlGFwdt@toastyhamster.freeserve.co .uk...
>>> In message <5fk1pfF3d5opiU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
>>> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>>>>Champ wrote:
>>>>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...51240173&ssPag
>>>>>eName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>>>>
>>>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>>>
>>>>How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?
>>> You can get them refurbed - but it's not cheap - expect a refurb to
>>> cost you 5-600 quid. You could probably pick up a smoky turbo unit
>>> for 50 quid though. I think when they're worn they just burn a bit
>>> of
>>> oil, until they go bang. There's a refurb kit available if you
>>> happen
>>> to be an engineer - have a google for Hitachi H10-B or look on
>>> 750turbo.com
>>>>
>>>>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>>>work/fit?
>>> Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
>>> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
>>> fit.
>>
>>
>>Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
>>quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
>>time anyway...
>>
>>(???)
>>
>
> I think you need to ride one.
>


No, bugger that - after last night's shenanigans on me '14' (2xNSL in an
open face helmet, cord trousers and street shoes yet *again*), I think I
need to ride a nice, *comfortable* thumper, preferably Jap or Eyetie
with electric start!

Got one for sale or can you recommend one?

mike. buckley

In message <cLqdnQPUB8SSYAnbRVnyiwA@pipex.net>, Keith G
<keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>No, bugger that - after last night's shenanigans on me '14' (2xNSL in an
>open face helmet, cord trousers and street shoes yet *again*), I think I
>need to ride a nice, *comfortable* thumper, preferably Jap or Eyetie
>with electric start!
>
>Got one for sale or can you recommend one?
>
>
>

Given my only singles have been a DT50MX, DT125LC and a Tiger Cub, I
wouldn't take my advice...

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
BONY#38

Keith G

"mike. buckley" <mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:m1q8$yp+FQlGFwse@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.u k...
> In message <cLqdnQPUB8SSYAnbRVnyiwA@pipex.net>, Keith G
> <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>>
>>No, bugger that - after last night's shenanigans on me '14' (2xNSL in
>>an
>>open face helmet, cord trousers and street shoes yet *again*), I think
>>I
>>need to ride a nice, *comfortable* thumper, preferably Jap or Eyetie
>>with electric start!
>>
>>Got one for sale or can you recommend one?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Given my only singles have been a DT50MX, DT125LC and a Tiger Cub, I
> wouldn't take my advice...


Fairy nuff. (The SR400/500s have just had a big mention in Classic MM,
so that's them stuffed for the forseeable!)

I see also from your website you are into those evil little RDs - this
is an oddball '375' my son had for a while:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/RD375LC.JPG

Paul - xxx

mike. buckley wrote:
> In message <5fk1pfF3d5opiU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>> Champ wrote:
>>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...51240173&ssPag
>>> eName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>>
>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>
>> How rare/costly etc are replacement turbo's?
> You can get them refurbed - but it's not cheap - expect a refurb to
> cost you 5-600 quid. You could probably pick up a smoky turbo unit
> for 50 quid though. I think when they're worn they just burn a bit
> of oil, until they go bang. There's a refurb kit available if you
> happen to be an engineer - have a google for Hitachi H10-B or look on
> 750turbo.com

Cheers, Mike. I 'was' an engineer, and know a 'man who ought to be able
to'.

>> Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>> work/fit?
> Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
> fit.

Thought as much. been doing a little googling and tbh it looks reasonable,
so long as it's not a stupid reserve.

>> It's close enough to me to have a look at, maybe, and certainly easy
>> for me to trailer home, and I'd like an old GPZ.
> The turbo is certainly fun to ride. Well, in a straight line anyway.

Heh, I figured. I used to have a KH250 ... and regular use of a 500 8-)

--
Paul - xxx

sweller

Champ wrote:

> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...

I sort of have the room but not the cash. I also have a spare turbo...

--
Simon

Champ

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:21:12 +0100, "Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:

>>>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>>work/fit?

>>Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
>> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
>> fit.

>Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
>quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
>time anyway...

Your friend was talking utter, unabashed, 24 carat, nonsense.
--
Champ

Champ

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:23:44 -0700,
TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,
<chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>Champ wrote:
>> 750 turbo for spares and repairs :
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:SS:UK:1
>>
>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>
>Grab it, take the tank, flog the rest. I generally reckon it takes
>three weeks of Ebay to make a bike disappear entirely.

Which bit of "don't have the room" didn't you understand. I have
*nowhere* to put another bike, let alone to dismantle it.

>First week - the stuff you know people want, like tinware, bodywork,
>seat, OE exhausts, clocks, etc.
>
>Second week - brakes, electrical items, switchgear, forks, etc.
>
>Third week - offer the carcass that's left for 99p and no reserve, and
>someone will have it.

I really can't be arsed with the effort either.
--
Champ

steve auvache

In article <7ema93hbesh04nm29rakgc6schqcdfud3f@4ax.com>, Champ
<news@champ.org.uk> writes
>I have
>*nowhere* to put another bike

Go and wash your mouth out. NOW!




--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

Keith G

"Champ" <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
news:lcma93dp11jlajvia0srv0ajj3u3v4kv56@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:21:12 +0100, "Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>>>work/fit?
>
>>>Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
>>> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
>>> fit.
>
>>Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
>>quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
>>time anyway...
>
> Your friend was talking utter, unabashed, 24 carat, nonsense.


You tell me. He said it, I remember it and there's not a lot he don't
(or didn't) know about bikes. If he's still in business, he would have
been a *dealer* for probably getting on for 40 years, but I haven't seen
him for years myself now and I don't know....

Mark Olson

Keith G wrote:
> "Champ" <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:lcma93dp11jlajvia0srv0ajj3u3v4kv56@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:21:12 +0100, "Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is there an equivalent turbo off, say, a Ford or somesuch that would
>>>>> work/fit?
>>>> Certainly other people have fitted turbos from other sources,
>>>> typically small capacity diesel vans/cars, but it's not been an easy
>>>> fit.
>>> Why bother? A dealer friend of mine (ten years or more ago) sold those
>>> quite happily without working turbos and reckoned they were a waste of
>>> time anyway...
>> Your friend was talking utter, unabashed, 24 carat, nonsense.
>
>
> You tell me. He said it, I remember it and there's not a lot he don't
> (or didn't) know about bikes. If he's still in business, he would have
> been a *dealer* for probably getting on for 40 years, but I haven't seen
> him for years myself now and I don't know....

Oh FFS. Just because someone was a bike dealer for 40 years
doesn't mean he couldn't have been spouting a load of uninformed
crap dressed up as expert opinion.

A 750 Turbo without a working turbo would be a sorry bike indeed,
not even as good as the non-turbo GPz750, due to the extra weight
and lower compression.

--
'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

Paul - xxx

sweller wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>
>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>
> I sort of have the room but not the cash. I also have a spare
> turbo...

What would you reckon the gpz in question is worth? Now and fixed?

And if I buy it, and you're willing to sell, what price for your spare (if
good) turbo?

--
Paul - xxx

deadmail@burnt.org.uk

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
<cjob939gh6dg1pn4iba1nqnkbjpthrc46i@4ax.com>:

>Of course, it's always possible that he said nothing of the sort, and
>your memory and obviously limited intelligence has mangled it in the
>mostly unused space between your ears.

Ouch.

mike. buckley

In message <5fm00dF3dhb3sU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>sweller wrote:
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>
>> I sort of have the room but not the cash. I also have a spare
>> turbo...
>
>What would you reckon the gpz in question is worth? Now and fixed?
>
>And if I buy it, and you're willing to sell, what price for your spare (if
>good) turbo?
>

I dug out the link to rebuild kits if it helps:

http://www.gpopshop.com/hitachikits.html

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2 GPZ750 Turbo
http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
BONY#38

AW

"Keith G" wrote:

> Putting it crudely, NDB inferred the turbo on the GPz750 was a 'waste of
> time' even when it worked and (I *guess*) something of a gimmick (?) -
> you claim a significant increase in power output. If you've had 5 of
> them I am more than ready to listen - what I would ask is how and when
> does the 'extra power' come in and is it really *usable*??

If you've ever driven a turbo car with a fubarred turbo, as I have,
you'll know that it's not just the same vehicle minus a bit of top end
whizz - it becomes a dog.

Yes, ultimately turbos were a bit of a gimmick/dead end but your
contact was talking out of his arse, dealer or not.

The Older Gentleman

AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If you've ever driven a turbo car with a fubarred turbo, as I have,
> you'll know that it's not just the same vehicle minus a bit of top end
> whizz - it becomes a dog.

Oooh, Sir! Sir! I did this just the week before last!


--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

Champ

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:36:37 +0100, "Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:

>Putting it crudely, NDB inferred the turbo on the GPz750 was a 'waste of
>time' even when it worked and (I *guess*) something of a gimmick (?) -
>you claim a significant increase in power output. If you've had 5 of
>them I am more than ready to listen - what I would ask is how and when
>does the 'extra power' come in and is it really *usable*??

The turbo starts to add power from 4k rpm (the redline is at 10.5k).
It can be making max boost by 6.5k (depending on throttle opening and
gear), which is where peak torque of 73 ft lb is made (according to
the specs). Bear in mind that 73 ft lb was a *significant* amount of
torque in 1984

>I'm wondering if NDB was implying that it's *not* in most people's
>hands

Every single person I've known who's ridden a GPz750 turbo has come
back with a stupid grin on their face. The additional power, and the
way it's delivered plum in the mid range, is accessible by everyone,
and fairly addictive.

>I have no opinion on the bikes, I've never even ridden one

I'd suggest that your lack of experience on the subject made it a
foolish one to pick an argument over.
--
Champ

Champ

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:03:04 +0100, "mike. buckley"
<mike@toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <5fm00dF3dhb3sU1@mid.individual.net>, Paul - xxx
><notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes
>>sweller wrote:
>>> Champ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would bid myself, but I really don't have the room...
>>>
>>> I sort of have the room but not the cash. I also have a spare
>>> turbo...
>>
>>What would you reckon the gpz in question is worth? Now and fixed?
>>
>>And if I buy it, and you're willing to sell, what price for your spare (if
>>good) turbo?
>>
>
>I dug out the link to rebuild kits if it helps:
>
>http://www.gpopshop.com/hitachikits.html

You said H10B in your earlier post, but HT10B is the one listed here.
But, $130 dollars seems pretty good value to me.
--
Champ

AW

(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

> Oooh, Sir! Sir! I did this just the week before last!


Heh. Dull experience, isn't it?!

AW

(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

> Absolute crap. It was by far the best of the Turbo bikes (I've ridden
> three of them - not the Suzuki XN85).

I've ridden all of them, though a couple only breifly. The Honda was
dull, the Suzuki a slug, the Yam handled oddly and the turno lag was
the worst of the four and the GPz, did what it said on the box. Like
Champ says, accessible power, good handling by contemporary standards
and guaranteed grin factor.

platypus

AW wrote:
> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>> Absolute crap. It was by far the best of the Turbo bikes (I've ridden
>> three of them - not the Suzuki XN85).
>
> I've ridden all of them, though a couple only breifly. The Honda was
> dull, the Suzuki a slug, the Yam handled oddly and the turno lag was
> the worst of the four and the GPz, did what it said on the box. Like
> Champ says, accessible power, good handling by contemporary standards
> and guaranteed grin factor.

220129651057

Somebody stop me. Please.

--
platypus

"enthusiasm and incompetence"

AW

"platypus" wrote:

> 220129651057
>
> Somebody stop me. Please.


Jesus, no, a basket case Honda CX Obrut?. That's got to be the worst
of all basket cases. Even when they're in good fettle they're boring,
not that quick and the handling's boat like. If you want a turbo get
the GPZ, the rest are all donkeys.

Pete Jones

platypus wrote:

> AW wrote:
> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >
> > > Absolute crap. It was by far the best of the Turbo bikes (I've
> > > ridden three of them - not the Suzuki XN85).
> >
> > I've ridden all of them, though a couple only breifly. The Honda
> > was dull, the Suzuki a slug, the Yam handled oddly and the turno
> > lag was the worst of the four and the GPz, did what it said on the
> > box. Like Champ says, accessible power, good handling by
> > contemporary standards and guaranteed grin factor.
>
> 220129651057
>
> Somebody stop me. Please.

Looks a bit far gone, perhaps strip the engine out into a Spondon
frame. That sounds like a plan to me

--
XJ600S

The Older Gentleman

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> >I have no opinion on the bikes, I've never even ridden one
>
> I'd suggest that your lack of experience on the subject made it a
> foolish one to pick an argument over.

I reckon he's got the message now.


--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

The Older Gentleman

AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jesus, no, a basket case Honda CX Obrut?. That's got to be the worst
> of all basket cases. Even when they're in good fettle they're boring,
> not that quick and the handling's boat like.

The 650's OK, but the 500 is not quite up to the mark.

> If you want a turbo get
> the GPZ, the rest are all donkeys.

What he said.


--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

AW

(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

> The 650's OK, but the 500 is not quite up to the mark.


Don't remember which I rode. It was dull though. And the CofG seemed
very high, but that might have been the perception of that bizarre
fairing...

What was it styled on? A washing up bowl?

Keith G

"AW" <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184260877.557736.46580@m3g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> "Keith G" wrote:
>
>> Putting it crudely, NDB inferred the turbo on the GPz750 was a 'waste
>> of
>> time' even when it worked and (I *guess*) something of a gimmick
>> (?) -
>> you claim a significant increase in power output. If you've had 5 of
>> them I am more than ready to listen - what I would ask is how and
>> when
>> does the 'extra power' come in and is it really *usable*??
>
> If you've ever driven a turbo car with a fubarred turbo, as I have,
> you'll know that it's not just the same vehicle minus a bit of top end
> whizz - it becomes a dog.
>
> Yes, ultimately turbos were a bit of a gimmick/dead end but your
> contact was talking out of his arse, dealer or not.
>


I'm still not convinced, despite the weight of argument here. I remember
the conversation - it was brief and offhand. I remember the bike, it was
very smart (for Del Basso' in those days) and I seem to remember it went
out a lot quicker than some....

Keith G

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
in message
news:1i15s71.73nwno57qui4N%chateau.murray.takethis out@dsl.pipex.com...
> Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> >I have no opinion on the bikes, I've never even ridden one
>>
>> I'd suggest that your lack of experience on the subject made it a
>> foolish one to pick an argument over.
>
> I reckon he's got the message now.


What message is that, Mumsy?

Champ