Morini Brakes

I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they
work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical
70s disk, really.

Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to
the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller
cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so
rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini
250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original.
Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
fitted it.

Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com>
wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>:

> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
> fitted it.

Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We
all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes!

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Andy Wegg"
<andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> saying something like:

>Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to
>the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller
>cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so
>rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini
>250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original.
>Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
>fitted it.
>
>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!

Hydraulic leverage. Only thing to watch is the slight possibility of
losing your composure if the pads get knocked back in the calipers
slightly. It takes more m/c travel to get them back out into the breeze
where they should be.
--
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GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

Folding@Home Team UKRM
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...&teamnum=47957

"Dr Ivan D. Reid" wrote
> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We
> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes!

Heh. I must have dreamt it all.....

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
(snip)
>
>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!
>
Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road
users?
--
Roger Hunt

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote
> Only thing to watch is the slight possibility of
> losing your composure if the pads get knocked back in the calipers
> slightly.

Good point. But the disk is non-floating and the caliper is fixed as
well so it should be a fairly unlikely event. <crosses fingers>

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On or around Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:38:52 +0100, Roger Hunt
<x@carewg.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
>(snip)
>>
>>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!
>>
>Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road
>users?

the other hand.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Austin Shackles typed this :
>On or around Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:38:52 +0100, Roger Hunt
><x@carewg.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
>>(snip)
>>>
>>>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!
>>>
>>Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road
>>users?
>
>the other hand.

I'm usually picking my nose with that one - one of the advantages of an
open-face helmet.
--
Roger Hunt

Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com>
> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>:
>
> > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
> > fitted it.
>
> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We
> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes!

<raps on monitor>

ChrisKen? Is that you?

On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:26:09 +0100,
chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us
thusly:

>Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>:
>>
>> > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
>> > fitted it.
>>
>> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We
>> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes!
>
><raps on monitor>

IRTA "craps"

>
>ChrisKen? Is that you?
>
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------------------------------------------------\
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Andy Wegg wrote:
> I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they
> work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical
> 70s disk, really.
>
> Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to
> the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller
> cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so
> rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini
> 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original.
> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
> fitted it.
>
> Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay!
>
>
> --
> Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a
lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its
not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std
caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to
have brakes that actually work properly.

k

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Ken typed this :
>
>Andy Wegg wrote:
>> I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they
>> work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical
>> 70s disk, really.
>>
>> Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to
>> the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller
>> cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so
>> rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini
>> 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original.
>> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
>> fitted it.
>
>Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a
>lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its
>not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std
>caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to
>have brakes that actually work properly.
>
Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said?
And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think
I would need to drill in it in order to mount it?
--
Roger Hunt

"Roger Hunt" wrote
> Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said?
> And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think
> I would need to drill in it in order to mount it?

Because he's a troll. Ignore.

The Morini doesn't need a 4 pot caliper. With a well matched master
cylinder and a properly set up original _single_ piston Grimeca caliper,
the brakes are quite capable of howling the front wheel.

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Roger Hunt wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Ken typed this :
> >
> >Andy Wegg wrote:
> >> I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they
> >> work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical
> >> 70s disk, really.
> >>
> >> Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to
> >> the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller
> >> cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so
> >> rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini
> >> 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original.
> >> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
> >> fitted it.
> >
> >Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a
> >lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its
> >not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std
> >caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to
> >have brakes that actually work properly.
> >
> Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said?
> And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think
> I would need to drill in it in order to mount it?
> --
> Roger Hunt

Its pretty easy to find a four pot caliper that will fit existing
mountings, or if not source some adapters to allow fitting a four
pot...............Smaller master cylinder does indeed improve the feel
of the brake, and needs less lever pressure, but doesnt add that much
to stopping power. The best way to go is try a four pot, with original
m cylinder, which will improve both feel and stopping considerably!

k

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
>"Roger Hunt" wrote
>> Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said?
>> And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think
>> I would need to drill in it in order to mount it?
>
>Because he's a troll. Ignore.
>
Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so
I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse.
>The Morini doesn't need a 4 pot caliper. With a well matched master
>cylinder and a properly set up original _single_ piston Grimeca caliper,
>the brakes are quite capable of howling the front wheel.
>
I have had a long-term love affair with the 8" sls drum brake on my
Triumph - the lining is fairly soft and absolutely perfect for the job,
and has a progressive smooth effect that astounds me. (This has to be
offset against the crappy 1960s front suspension).
Goes off noticeably with even small amounts of dust but regular cleaning
is no hassle. And these Magura forged alloy dogleg handlebar levers are
pretty damn good too.
--
Roger Hunt

"Roger Hunt" wrote
> Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so
> I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse.

Heh. Chris/Ken knows all about arse. He spouts it constantly..

> I have had a long-term love affair with the 8" sls drum brake on my
> Triumph - the lining is fairly soft and absolutely perfect for the job,
> and has a progressive smooth effect that astounds me. (This has to be
> offset against the crappy 1960s front suspension).

Which Triumph? I've a TLS on my T100 which I have to say is pretty good
(for a drum).

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
>"Roger Hunt" wrote
>> Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so
>> I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse.
>
>Heh. Chris/Ken knows all about arse. He spouts it constantly..
>
>> I have had a long-term love affair with the 8" sls drum brake on my
>> Triumph - the lining is fairly soft and absolutely perfect for the job,
>> and has a progressive smooth effect that astounds me. (This has to be
>> offset against the crappy 1960s front suspension).
>
>Which Triumph? I've a TLS on my T100 which I have to say is pretty good
>(for a drum).
>
It's a 1963 T90 which came to me with a T100T (or was it T100R - can't
remember at the moment - doesn't really matter) 8" sls at the front.
--
Roger Hunt

Roger Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
> >"Roger Hunt" wrote
> >> Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so
> >> I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse.
> >
> >Heh. Chris/Ken knows all about arse. He spouts it constantly..
> >
> >> I have had a long-term love affair with the 8" sls drum brake on my
> >> Triumph - the lining is fairly soft and absolutely perfect for the job,
> >> and has a progressive smooth effect that astounds me. (This has to be
> >> offset against the crappy 1960s front suspension).
> >
> >Which Triumph? I've a TLS on my T100 which I have to say is pretty good
> >(for a drum).
> >
> It's a 1963 T90 which came to me with a T100T (or was it T100R - can't
> remember at the moment - doesn't really matter) 8" sls at the front.
> --
> Roger Hunt

Easy enough to uprate your 8* sls brake by fitting a properly set up
tls brake plate, with some decent linings, machined to fit the drum
correctly.

k

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message news:1hd0tk4.n0lw1f1jqgrlsN%chateau.murraySPAMKILL @dsl.pipex.com...
> Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg
>> <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>:
>>
>> > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just
>> > fitted it.
>>
>> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We
>> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes!
>
> <raps on monitor>
>
> ChrisKen? Is that you?

LMFAO!

"Roger Hunt" wrote
> It's a 1963 T90 which came to me with a T100T (or was it T100R - can't
> remember at the moment - doesn't really matter) 8" sls at the front.

I like the little Triumphs. Lovely little engine.

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Andy Wegg typed this :
>"Roger Hunt" wrote
>> It's a 1963 T90 which came to me with a T100T (or was it T100R - can't
>> remember at the moment - doesn't really matter) 8" sls at the front.
>
>I like the little Triumphs. Lovely little engine.
>
It revs very very freely and wants more in Third, but the valve gear
just isn't up to it. The oil feed appears to be functioning as well as
Triumph intended it to (which isn't saying much), but it's such a weak
point.
--
Roger Hunt

On or around Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:06:45 +0000 (UTC), "Andy Wegg"
<andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:

>"Roger Hunt" wrote
>> Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so
>> I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse.
>
>Heh. Chris/Ken knows all about arse. He spouts it constantly..
^
from
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see Chuck's face, a white oval turned toward the sky.
'Look,' whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven.
(There is always a last time for everything.)
Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out"
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	#1
Andy Wegg	Morini Brakes I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical 70s disk, really. Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original. Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just fitted it. Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#2
Dr Ivan D. Reid	Re: Morini Brakes On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>: > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just > fitted it. Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes! -- Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk\|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty". PS: :-)

	#3
Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: Morini Brakes We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Andy Wegg" <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> saying something like: >Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to >the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller >cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so >rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini >250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original. >Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just >fitted it. > >Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! Hydraulic leverage. Only thing to watch is the slight possibility of losing your composure if the pads get knocked back in the calipers slightly. It takes more m/c travel to get them back out into the breeze where they should be. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me. Folding@Home Team UKRM http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...&teamnum=47957

	#4
Andy Wegg	Re: Morini Brakes "Dr Ivan D. Reid" wrote > Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We > all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes! Heh. I must have dreamt it all..... -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#5
Roger Hunt	Re: Morini Brakes On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this : (snip) > >Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! > Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road users? -- Roger Hunt

	#6
Andy Wegg	Re: Morini Brakes Grimly Curmudgeon wrote > Only thing to watch is the slight possibility of > losing your composure if the pads get knocked back in the calipers > slightly. Good point. But the disk is non-floating and the caliper is fixed as well so it should be a fairly unlikely event. <crosses fingers> -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#7
Austin Shackles	Re: Morini Brakes On or around Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:38:52 +0100, Roger Hunt <x@carewg.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: >On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this : >(snip) >> >>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! >> >Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road >users? the other hand.

	#8
Roger Hunt	Re: Morini Brakes On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Austin Shackles typed this : >On or around Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:38:52 +0100, Roger Hunt ><x@carewg.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: > >>On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Andy Wegg typed this : >>(snip) >>> >>>Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! >>> >>Sounds good, but what do you use now for messaging your fellow road >>users? > >the other hand. I'm usually picking my nose with that one - one of the advantages of an open-face helmet. -- Roger Hunt

	#9
The Older Gentleman	Re: Morini Brakes Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> > wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>: > > > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just > > fitted it. > > Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We > all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes! <raps on monitor> ChrisKen? Is that you?

	#10
Austin Shackles	Re: Morini Brakes On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:26:09 +0100, chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly: >Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> >> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>: >> >> > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just >> > fitted it. >> >> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We >> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes! > ><raps on monitor> IRTA "craps" > >ChrisKen? Is that you? > -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

	#11
Ken	Re: Morini Brakes Andy Wegg wrote: > I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they > work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical > 70s disk, really. > > Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to > the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller > cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so > rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini > 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original. > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just > fitted it. > > Blimey. Two finger braking. Yay! > > > -- > Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to have brakes that actually work properly. k

	#12
Roger Hunt	Re: Morini Brakes On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Ken typed this : > >Andy Wegg wrote: >> I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they >> work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical >> 70s disk, really. >> >> Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to >> the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller >> cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so >> rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini >> 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original. >> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just >> fitted it. > >Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a >lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its >not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std >caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to >have brakes that actually work properly. > Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said? And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think I would need to drill in it in order to mount it? -- Roger Hunt

	#13
Andy Wegg	Re: Morini Brakes "Roger Hunt" wrote > Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said? > And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think > I would need to drill in it in order to mount it? Because he's a troll. Ignore. The Morini doesn't need a 4 pot caliper. With a well matched master cylinder and a properly set up original _single_ piston Grimeca caliper, the brakes are quite capable of howling the front wheel. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#14
Ken	Re: Morini Brakes Roger Hunt wrote: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Ken typed this : > > > >Andy Wegg wrote: > >> I've been a bit unhapy with the brakes on my Morini for a while - they > >> work, but the lever pressure is high and there's little feel - typical > >> 70s disk, really. > >> > >> Advice from a bloke what knows was that the master cylinder fitted to > >> the single disk Morinis is badly matched and the slightly smaller > >> cylinder works better. I wanted to retain a 70s look to the bike, so > >> rather than just finding any old cylinder I wanted one from a Morini > >> 250, it being the right size and made by Grimeca as per the original. > >> Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just > >> fitted it. > > > >Most people make the mistake of thinking low brake lever travel and a > >lot of pressure needed to stop is a good thing!..................Its > >not. Far better to fit smaller dia master cylinder, if you keep the std > >caliper, or look at the possibility of a 4 pot caliper if you want to > >have brakes that actually work properly. > > > Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said? > And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think > I would need to drill in it in order to mount it? > -- > Roger Hunt Its pretty easy to find a four pot caliper that will fit existing mountings, or if not source some adapters to allow fitting a four pot...............Smaller master cylinder does indeed improve the feel of the brake, and needs less lever pressure, but doesnt add that much to stopping power. The best way to go is try a four pot, with original m cylinder, which will improve both feel and stopping considerably! k

	#15
Roger Hunt	Re: Morini Brakes On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Andy Wegg typed this : >"Roger Hunt" wrote >> Why do you feel moved to repeat what he just said? >> And - when I have found this 4 pot caliper how many holes do you think >> I would need to drill in it in order to mount it? > >Because he's a troll. Ignore. > Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse. >The Morini doesn't need a 4 pot caliper. With a well matched master >cylinder and a properly set up original _single_ piston Grimeca caliper, >the brakes are quite capable of howling the front wheel. > I have had a long-term love affair with the 8" sls drum brake on my Triumph - the lining is fairly soft and absolutely perfect for the job, and has a progressive smooth effect that astounds me. (This has to be offset against the crappy 1960s front suspension). Goes off noticeably with even small amounts of dust but regular cleaning is no hassle. And these Magura forged alloy dogleg handlebar levers are pretty damn good too. -- Roger Hunt

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Big Dave	Re: Morini Brakes "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:1hd0tk4.n0lw1f1jqgrlsN%chateau.murraySPAMKILL @dsl.pipex.com... > Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Andy Wegg >> <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> >> wrote in <7dd2bd19d7c4e4298148d4201b4b23e6.20410@mygate.mai lgate.org>: >> >> > Eventually I located one (from a Morini-ist in Greece) and I've just >> > fitted it. >> >> Surely you mean, "I just paid a man loadsa dosh to fit it"? We >> all know the extent of your mechanicking ability on Classic bikes! > > <raps on monitor> > > ChrisKen? Is that you? LMFAO!

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Austin Shackles	Re: Morini Brakes On or around Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:06:45 +0000 (UTC), "Andy Wegg" <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly: >"Roger Hunt" wrote >> Happily - but the bollocks spouted sometimes splash in my direction, so >> I was merely wiping my sleeve, so to speak. Or my arse. > >Heh. Chris/Ken knows all about arse. He spouts it constantly.. ^ from -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Chuck didn't reply, so George swung round in his saddle. He could just see Chuck's face, a white oval turned toward the sky. 'Look,' whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven. (There is always a last time for everything.) Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out" Arthur C. Clarke, "The 9 billion names of God"