More Cibie headlights

5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back
roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second
one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run
some heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay.

What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?

It is still tempting to add a couple of small H2 spots under the main
units for truly horrible wet dark journeys. Would a Bandit genny cope
with 240 watts of high beam?? IIRC the output is around 400w total but
not sure.

--
Hog
'96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4839dbFhphtfU1@individual.net...
> 5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back
> roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second
> one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run some
> heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay.
>
> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?

Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept *no* alternatives.

> It is still tempting to add a couple of small H2 spots under the main
> units for truly horrible wet dark journeys. Would a Bandit genny cope with
> 240 watts of high beam?? IIRC the output is around 400w total but not
> sure.

It's not the alternator's output that matters unless you leave them on for
hours. The battery will deliver enough current; it will just lose 'charge'
the longer you leave them on. Don't forget your coils (especially) and other
lights use a fair bit of current too.

JB

JB wrote:
> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message

>> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?
>
> Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept *no* alternatives.

Ok, TVM

> It's not the alternator's output that matters unless you leave them
> on for hours. The battery will deliver enough current; it will just
> lose 'charge' the longer you leave them on. Don't forget your coils
> (especially) and other lights use a fair bit of current too.

Well my question was whether the alternator is beefy enough to feed them
full time as well as all the other electronics plus battery charging

--
Hog
'96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
saying something like:

>What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?

Philips Silver Star or somesuch. I've got a pair of them in and they
really do put out extra light for the wattage, unlike the blue-tinted
bollocks. I'd say they are on a par with the 100/80s I've got in the
van.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

Folding@Home Team UKRM
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...&teamnum=47957

Hog wrote:
> JB wrote:
>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>>> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available
>>> now?
>>
>> Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept *no* alternatives.
>
> Ok, TVM

Look here, 2005 Bulb Test

http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/

--
I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as
members. Groucho Marx

On or around Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:38:12 -0000, "Hog"
<hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?

I've found the Philips "Vision Plus" to be good. Other makers are also
selling bulbs with similar claims. I don't know whether the VP are indeed
50% brighter (than what?) but they make a nice light.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)

"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
news:ri0p12pldrvk1pj9g5t4fh8bc1vorst2pe@4ax.com...
> On or around Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:38:12 -0000, "Hog"
> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?
>
> I've found the Philips "Vision Plus" to be good. Other makers are also
> selling bulbs with similar claims. I don't know whether the VP are indeed
> 50% brighter (than what?) but they make a nice light.
> --
They actually are indeed 50% brighter than the standard halogens they
replace.
Check out http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

JB

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:21:00 -0000, "JB" <JB@Nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:4839dbFhphtfU1@individual.net...
>> 5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back
>> roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second
>> one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run some
>> heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay.
>>
>> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?
>
>Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept *no* alternatives.

Wot 'e said. I used to use 100/80W bulbs until I melted the RF's
headlight plug. I got more and better focused light from a 60/55
Osram Silverstar. Elly was astonished at the difference in light
output when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio.

Stay well away from anything with a 'blue tint'.

--
Pip: B12

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:44 +0000, Pip
<gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio.

ooh er!
--
Champ

Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
<bd6p12h56c7u0kaph83l3oqs52643cfu2k@4ax.com>:

>Seriously, every other post nowadays could be summarised as
>"Everything's worse than it used to be".

Yeah, too right. It wasn't like that five or ten years ago.

Champ wrote:
> Pip ginger wrote:
>
> >Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio.
>
> ooh er!

I manfully resisted a similar comment here. I hope you appreciate .. !

P.

In article <1142728418.016571.38580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups. com>,
says...
>
> Champ wrote:
> > Pip ginger wrote:
> >
> > >Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio.
> >
> > ooh er!
>
> I manfully resisted a similar comment here. I hope you appreciate .. !

So, where did he put the stars, after you resisted?

Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:44 +0000, Pip
> <gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her
>> Clio.
>
> ooh er!

I choked on my Earl Grey reading that one!

--
Hog
'96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Hog wrote:
ound with overbright and / or badly adjusted dip beams these days?
>>
>>I was thinking both these thoughts not so long ago. The Audi has
>>Xenons which are almost offensively bright - there surely has to come
>>a point where lights are too bright for road use?
>
>
> I'm not sure my lights can be too bright for me

well no, I love the Audi Xenons, and hate getting back into the missus's
Pug306 in the dark for this reason alone.

> but they need to be
> correctly adjusted and have good focus. The porker has projector HID's
> which are utterly amazing with perfect cut off but they self level every
> ignition key cycle.

Yup, same on the audi, but you can imagine the roads over here. Local
roads are littered with speed bumps and drempels, major roads whilst not
hilly, are far from flat with ripples and crests all over the shop.

--
Dnc

B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - faster when upright
V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ A6 2.5TDi V6 Quattro Sport

MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003

Pete Fisher wrote:

> Unfortunately so true see:
> http://www.escrs.org/eurotimes/April2003/high.asp

"But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by
night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on
two-lane roads can be dangerous,"

So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all

--
Hog
'96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

In message <484pvkFi35djU1@individual.net>, Hog
<hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes
>Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately so true see:
>> http://www.escrs.org/eurotimes/April2003/high.asp
>
>
> "But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by
>night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on
>two-lane roads can be dangerous,"
>
>So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all
>

There is certainly a case for compulsory eye testing to retain your
licence after the age of 50 rather than 70. To detect the particular
problem of 'dazzle' would, however, need something a bit more
sophisticated than the 'read a number plate' spot tests that have been
proposed (e.g. by West Mercia Police).
--

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"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
<484pvkFi35djU1@individual.net>:

> "But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by
>night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on
>two-lane roads can be dangerous,"
>
>So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all

Looked in a mirror recently?

>
> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?
>

Try www.consumabulbs.com

They have a selection of brighter lamps, but it seems the Silverstar are the
best option.

Niv, SV650S

Niv wrote:
>> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now?
>>
>
> Try www.consumabulbs.com
>
> They have a selection of brighter lamps, but it seems the Silverstar
> are the best option.
>
> Niv, SV650S

Aye they seem to be the kiddies.
Hope Halfrauds have them tomorrow

--
Hog
'96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

	#1
Hog	More Cibie headlights 5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run some heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay. What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? It is still tempting to add a couple of small H2 spots under the main units for truly horrible wet dark journeys. Would a Bandit genny cope with 240 watts of high beam?? IIRC the output is around 400w total but not sure. -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

	#2
JB	Re: More Cibie headlights "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message news:4839dbFhphtfU1@individual.net... > 5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back > roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second > one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run some > heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay. > > What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept no alternatives. > It is still tempting to add a couple of small H2 spots under the main > units for truly horrible wet dark journeys. Would a Bandit genny cope with > 240 watts of high beam?? IIRC the output is around 400w total but not > sure. It's not the alternator's output that matters unless you leave them on for hours. The battery will deliver enough current; it will just lose 'charge' the longer you leave them on. Don't forget your coils (especially) and other lights use a fair bit of current too. JB

	#3
Hog	Re: More Cibie headlights JB wrote: > "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message >> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? > > Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept no alternatives. Ok, TVM > It's not the alternator's output that matters unless you leave them > on for hours. The battery will deliver enough current; it will just > lose 'charge' the longer you leave them on. Don't forget your coils > (especially) and other lights use a fair bit of current too. Well my question was whether the alternator is beefy enough to feed them full time as well as all the other electronics plus battery charging -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

	#4
Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: More Cibie headlights We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> saying something like: >What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? Philips Silver Star or somesuch. I've got a pair of them in and they really do put out extra light for the wattage, unlike the blue-tinted bollocks. I'd say they are on a par with the 100/80s I've got in the van. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me. Folding@Home Team UKRM http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...&teamnum=47957

	#5
Scraggy	Re: More Cibie headlights Hog wrote: > JB wrote: >> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message > >>> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available >>> now? >> >> Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept no alternatives. > > Ok, TVM Look here, 2005 Bulb Test http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/ -- I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. Groucho Marx

	#6
Austin Shackles	Re: More Cibie headlights On or around Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:38:12 -0000, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: >What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? I've found the Philips "Vision Plus" to be good. Other makers are also selling bulbs with similar claims. I don't know whether the VP are indeed 50% brighter (than what?) but they make a nice light. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink; Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by; Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)

	#7
JB	Re: More Cibie headlights "Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message news:ri0p12pldrvk1pj9g5t4fh8bc1vorst2pe@4ax.com... > On or around Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:38:12 -0000, "Hog" > <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: > >>What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? > > I've found the Philips "Vision Plus" to be good. Other makers are also > selling bulbs with similar claims. I don't know whether the VP are indeed > 50% brighter (than what?) but they make a nice light. > -- They actually are indeed 50% brighter than the standard halogens they replace. Check out http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ JB

	#8
Pip	Re: More Cibie headlights On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:21:00 -0000, "JB" <JB@Nospam.co.uk> wrote: > >"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message >news:4839dbFhphtfU1@individual.net... >> 5-3/4 inch Cibie in a cheapo Bates style shell. 1st run down some back >> roads this evening. "Oh Yes" most illuminating. I shall buy the second >> one now. Cheap solution, about £50 all in per side. Just need to run some >> heavy duty wire up and splice in a relay. >> >> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? > >Osram Silverstar or Philips Vision Plus. Accept no alternatives. Wot 'e said. I used to use 100/80W bulbs until I melted the RF's headlight plug. I got more and better focused light from a 60/55 Osram Silverstar. Elly was astonished at the difference in light output when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio. Stay well away from anything with a 'blue tint'. -- Pip: B12

	#9
Champ	Re: More Cibie headlights On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:42:44 +0000, Pip <gingerblokeNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: >Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio. ooh er! -- Champ

	#10
deadmail@burnt.org.uk	Re: More Cibie headlights Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message <bd6p12h56c7u0kaph83l3oqs52643cfu2k@4ax.com>: >Seriously, every other post nowadays could be summarised as >"Everything's worse than it used to be". Yeah, too right. It wasn't like that five or ten years ago.

	#11
zymurgy@technologist.com	Re: More Cibie headlights Champ wrote: > Pip ginger wrote: > > >Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio. > > ooh er! I manfully resisted a similar comment here. I hope you appreciate .. ! P.

	#12
ginge	Re: More Cibie headlights In article <1142728418.016571.38580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups. com>, says... > > Champ wrote: > > Pip ginger wrote: > > > > >Elly was astonished when I slipped a couple of Silverstars into her Clio. > > > > ooh er! > > I manfully resisted a similar comment here. I hope you appreciate .. ! So, where did he put the stars, after you resisted?

	#14
DoetNietComputeren	Re: More Cibie headlights Hog wrote: ound with overbright and / or badly adjusted dip beams these days? >> >>I was thinking both these thoughts not so long ago. The Audi has >>Xenons which are almost offensively bright - there surely has to come >>a point where lights are too bright for road use? > > > I'm not sure my lights can be too bright for me well no, I love the Audi Xenons, and hate getting back into the missus's Pug306 in the dark for this reason alone. > but they need to be > correctly adjusted and have good focus. The porker has projector HID's > which are utterly amazing with perfect cut off but they self level every > ignition key cycle. Yup, same on the audi, but you can imagine the roads over here. Local roads are littered with speed bumps and drempels, major roads whilst not hilly, are far from flat with ripples and crests all over the shop. -- Dnc B1200 - +30bhp ~\|~ ZZR1100 - faster when upright V2300 - flat cap and rug ~\|~ A6 2.5TDi V6 Quattro Sport MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003

	#15
Hog	Re: More Cibie headlights Pete Fisher wrote: > Unfortunately so true see: > http://www.escrs.org/eurotimes/April2003/high.asp "But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on two-lane roads can be dangerous," So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

	#16
Pete Fisher	Re: More Cibie headlights In message <484pvkFi35djU1@individual.net>, Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes >Pete Fisher wrote: > >> Unfortunately so true see: >> http://www.escrs.org/eurotimes/April2003/high.asp > > > "But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by >night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on >two-lane roads can be dangerous," > >So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all > There is certainly a case for compulsory eye testing to retain your licence after the age of 50 rather than 70. To detect the particular problem of 'dazzle' would, however, need something a bit more sophisticated than the 'read a number plate' spot tests that have been proposed (e.g. by West Mercia Police). -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ \| Pete Fisher at Home: Peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk \| \| Voxan Roadster Moto Guzzi Mille GT/Squire RS3 Gilera Nordwest \| \| Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 \| +-----------------------------------------------------------------+

	#18
Niv	Re: More Cibie headlights > > What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? > Try www.consumabulbs.com They have a selection of brighter lamps, but it seems the Silverstar are the best option. Niv, SV650S

	#19
Hog	Re: More Cibie headlights Niv wrote: >> What are regarded as the best focussed 60/55W H4 bulbs available now? >> > > Try www.consumabulbs.com > > They have a selection of brighter lamps, but it seems the Silverstar > are the best option. > > Niv, SV650S Aye they seem to be the kiddies. Hope Halfrauds have them tomorrow -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400