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FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cb400-su...d-not-kh-cd-gt
-ts_W0QQitemZ4625960144QQcategoryZ9806QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 x2 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cb400-su...d-not-kh-cd-gt > -ts_W0QQitemZ4625960144QQcategoryZ9806QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem > > Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! To add insult to injury, photo spread by D. Blunkett. -- '01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '86 GL1200A '81 CM400T OMF #7 |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
The Older Gentleman <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> spewed forth the
following... > Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! *Boggle* Jesus Tapdancing Christ.. For the current high bidders sake, I hope he/she does not hit the reserve. Saying that, the bidder does have dubious taste in bikes... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-R65-650cc-...QQcmdZViewItem -- Loz H ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ CB550F CB200 CX500 |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Loz H wrote: > The Older Gentleman <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> spewed forth the > following... > > > > Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! > > > *Boggle* > > > Jesus Tapdancing Christ.. For the current high bidders sake, I hope he/she > does not hit the reserve. > > Saying that, the bidder does have dubious taste in bikes... > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-R65-650cc-...QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > -- > Loz H > ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ > CB550F CB200 CX500 I wouldnt honestly say that a CB550, CB200, and CX500 (ughhhhhhhhhh!), are really representative of particularly good taste................would you? k |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following...
> I wouldnt honestly say that a CB550, CB200, and CX500 (ughhhhhhhhhh!), > are really representative of particularly good > taste................would you? > > k Indeed I would, all models being good examples of interesting points in the history of Honda. So there. Plppplpllplppplplpppp -- Loz H ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ CB550F CB200 CX500 |
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Loz H wrote: > Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following... > > > I wouldnt honestly say that a CB550, CB200, and CX500 (ughhhhhhhhhh!), > > are really representative of particularly good > > taste................would you? > > > > k > > Indeed I would, all models being good examples of interesting points in the > history of Honda. > > So there. > > Plppplpllplppplplpppp > > > -- > Loz H > ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ > CB550F CB200 CX500 I feel the CX500 has quite a lot in common with the Superdream................lol k |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following...
> I feel the CX500 has quite a lot in common with the > Superdream................lol > > k I'm not sure I want to know about the kind of things you feel, Kennyboi.. -- Loz H ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ CB550F CB200 CX500 |
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Loz H wrote: > Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following... > > > I feel the CX500 has quite a lot in common with the > > Superdream................lol > > > > k > > I'm not sure I want to know about the kind of things you feel, Kennyboi.. > > > > -- > Loz H > ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ > CB550F CB200 CX500 Original CB750 is certainly a proper classic bike, as are several other Honda models, but not a CX500 or Superdream................thats taking things a bit too far I think! k |
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"The Older Gentleman" wrote
> Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! Yuck! -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following...
> Original CB750 is certainly a proper classic bike, as are several > other Honda models, but not a CX500 or > Superdream................thats taking things a bit too far I think! > > k I agree. The CX does not count as a true classic. Not yet, maybe never. The Superdream, certainly never. An abortion from start to finish. Nonetheless, the CX is a rather interesting and unusual machine in it's own right, and certainly it comes under *something* for that alone. It's also strangely rewarding to ride in an agricultural kind of way, and the delivery of power from the motor does has it's own particular charm. I can certainly see why couriers used to like 'em. It'll sit at a comfortable 80 on the motorway from arseholes to breakfast time if need be, returning 50Mpg+ for your efforts, pull you around town in 5th gear comfortably from 25Mph upwards and last of all no chain maintenance to worry about. -- Loz H ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ CB550F CB200 CX500 |
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"Loz H" <m3lsd@> wrote:
> Jesus Tapdancing Christ.. For the current high bidders sake, I hope he/she > does not hit the reserve. Looks like it did. Some complete pillock paid £1350 for it. You could get a really nice 400 Four for that sort of dosh. Realistically, I reckon that 400N is worth about £700. Actually, that seller rings a bell. I'm sure I've bought stuff from him or sold stuff to him in the past. I'm pretty sure he's a trader. I can see what looks like an RG250 and an XS750 lurking in the background, plus some big tourer, and the CB750 he's selling is also "being sold for a friend". -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 x2 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
"Loz H" <m3lsd@> wrote:
> Nonetheless, the CX is a rather interesting and unusual machine in it's own > right, and certainly it comes under *something* for that alone. It's also > strangely rewarding to ride in an agricultural kind of way, and the delivery > of power from the motor does has it's own particular charm. Incredibly advanced package for the era, and one of few Hondas to be designed with ownership as much in mind as riding. -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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"The Older Gentleman" wrote:
> > Incredibly advanced package for the era, and one of few Hondas to be > designed with ownership as much in mind as riding. I never liked the look of the CX, and I've only ever ridden one. But like it or not it was certainly a milestone bike (in many ways!). -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Loz H wrote: > Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth the following... > > > Original CB750 is certainly a proper classic bike, as are several > > other Honda models, but not a CX500 or > > Superdream................thats taking things a bit too far I think! > > > > k > > I agree. The CX does not count as a true classic. Not yet, maybe never. > > The Superdream, certainly never. An abortion from start to finish. > > > Nonetheless, the CX is a rather interesting and unusual machine in it's own > right, and certainly it comes under *something* for that alone. It's also > strangely rewarding to ride in an agricultural kind of way, and the delivery > of power from the motor does has it's own particular charm. > > I can certainly see why couriers used to like 'em. It'll sit at a > comfortable 80 on the motorway from arseholes to breakfast time if need be, > returning 50Mpg+ for your efforts, pull you around town in 5th gear > comfortably from 25Mph upwards and last of all no chain maintenance to worry > about. > > > -- > Loz H > ~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~ > CB550F CB200 CX500 Yes would agree with you 100%.............the CX500 is just as you say, but the 2 Superdream models were most certainly apalling things, which are never going to become true classics! Saying that though a customised scooter was judged classic "bike" of the year recently, so you never know I supose. k |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
On or around Sun, 2 Apr 2006 12:16:42 +0100,
chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly: >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cb400-su...d-not-kh-cd-gt >-ts_W0QQitemZ4625960144QQcategoryZ9806QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem > >Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! does seem a bit high, mind, he claims a "full nut and bolt restoration", so presumably the nuts and bolts will be OK. Mind, the 400 SD was quite a reasonable bike, from what I gather. I nearly bought one once, but it had a rattly 2nd gear. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton. |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
On or around Sun, 2 Apr 2006 15:45:24 +0100,
chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly: >"Loz H" <m3lsd@> wrote: > >> Jesus Tapdancing Christ.. For the current high bidders sake, I hope he/she >> does not hit the reserve. > >Looks like it did. Some complete pillock paid £1350 for it. You could >get a really nice 400 Four for that sort of dosh. Realistically, I >reckon that 400N is worth about £700. > >Actually, that seller rings a bell. I'm sure I've bought stuff from him >or sold stuff to him in the past. > >I'm pretty sure he's a trader. I can see what looks like an RG250 and an >XS750 lurking in the background, plus some big tourer, and the CB750 >he's selling is also "being sold for a friend". so he's a lying cnut as well... -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton. |
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"Austin Shackles" wrote
> Mind, the 400 SD was quite a reasonable bike, from what I gather. I nearly > bought one once, but it had a rattly 2nd gear. Nah. Nasty, buzzy and ponderous. Bit like Ken -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Austin Shackles typed this :
>On or around Sun, 2 Apr 2006 12:16:42 +0100, >chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us >thusly: > >>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cb400-su...d-not-kh-cd-gt >>-ts_W0QQitemZ4625960144QQcategoryZ9806QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem >> >>Currently £1210 and reserve not met. Insane! > >does seem a bit high, mind, he claims a "full nut and bolt restoration", so >presumably the nuts and bolts will be OK. > That's reassuring, but I know that a 6mm bolt will sort of mate with a ¼"BSF nut, but not for long ... -- Roger Hunt |
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Andy Wegg wrote: > "Austin Shackles" wrote > > Mind, the 400 SD was quite a reasonable bike, from what I gather. I nearly > > bought one once, but it had a rattly 2nd gear. > > > > Nah. Nasty, buzzy and ponderous. Bit like Ken > > > -- > Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Nice to see you are still thinking of me................wonder if you have found any more single carb Daytona's.....................lol k |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
TOG@Toil wrote:
> I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible > thing. I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Hog wrote: > TOG@Toil wrote: > > > I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible > > thing. > > I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike > Erm, not really. Engine was unchanged except for an extra oil line to the head. And they uprated the brakes. But it was still a Super Dream. |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
On 3 Apr 2006 05:42:33 -0700, TOG@Toil, chateau.murray@btinternet.com,
<chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote: >It's quite a harsh engine - probably something to do with the 360 >dgeree crank throws, and the chain-driven balancer doesn't really sort >that out. The Z400 twin was also 360 degree, but although not as fast >at the top end, had masses of torque, which made it really nice to >ride. > >The Suzuki GS400 was immensely smoother, as fast, handled better and >looked nicer. The Yamaha XS400 had very similar performance to the >Honda, but was a lot cheaper o buy and much easier to maintain. And >more rugged. "More rugged" up until the point that it did its crank, yes? -- Champ |
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TOG@Toil wrote:
> Hog wrote: >> TOG@Toil wrote: >> >>> I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible >>> thing. >> >> I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike >> > > Erm, not really. Engine was unchanged except for an extra oil line to > the head. And they uprated the brakes. But it was still a Super Dream. I recall riding a late model which had different shape tank etc and the suspension seemed more pleasant. Ther engine felt quite smooth and had reasonable torque. -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> TOG@Toil wrote: > > Hog wrote: > >> TOG@Toil wrote: > >> > >>> I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible > >>> thing. > >> > >> I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike > >> > > > > Erm, not really. Engine was unchanged except for an extra oil line to > > the head. And they uprated the brakes. But it was still a Super Dream. > > I recall riding a late model which had different shape tank etc and the > suspension seemed more pleasant. Ther engine felt quite smooth and had > reasonable torque. I think maybe you're muddling up the original 400 Dream (dumpy podgy styling, five-speed box) with the later Super Dream. The Super Dream was never restyled as such - just a few cosmetic tweaks and different graphics. -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2006 05:42:33 -0700, TOG@Toil, chateau.murray@btinternet.com, > <chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote: > > >It's quite a harsh engine - probably something to do with the 360 > >dgeree crank throws, and the chain-driven balancer doesn't really sort > >that out. The Z400 twin was also 360 degree, but although not as fast > >at the top end, had masses of torque, which made it really nice to > >ride. > > > >The Suzuki GS400 was immensely smoother, as fast, handled better and > >looked nicer. The Yamaha XS400 had very similar performance to the > >Honda, but was a lot cheaper o buy and much easier to maintain. And > >more rugged. > > "More rugged" up until the point that it did its crank, yes? Never heard of that happening on a Yamaha 400. Nor a 250, come to that..... -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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The Older Gentleman said...
> Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: > > > TOG@Toil wrote: > > > Hog wrote: > > >> TOG@Toil wrote: > > >> > > >>> I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible > > >>> thing. > > >> > > >> I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike > > >> > > > > > > Erm, not really. Engine was unchanged except for an extra oil line to > > > the head. And they uprated the brakes. But it was still a Super Dream. > > > > I recall riding a late model which had different shape tank etc and the > > suspension seemed more pleasant. Ther engine felt quite smooth and had > > reasonable torque. > > I think maybe you're muddling up the original 400 Dream (dumpy podgy > styling, five-speed box) with the later Super Dream. > > The Super Dream was never restyled as such - just a few cosmetic tweaks > and different graphics. They gave it the more "Euro" styling in 1982, with that stupid ducks arse tail end and slightly more inspiring graphics. The basic shape was the same though. -- Lozzo GSX-R1000 K1 GSF600(S)W |
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Lozzo wrote:
> The Older Gentleman said... >> Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> TOG@Toil wrote: >>>> Hog wrote: >>>>> TOG@Toil wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible >>>>>> thing. >>>>> >>>>> I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike >>>>> >>>> >>>> Erm, not really. Engine was unchanged except for an extra oil line >>>> to the head. And they uprated the brakes. But it was still a Super >>>> Dream. >>> >>> I recall riding a late model which had different shape tank etc and >>> the suspension seemed more pleasant. Ther engine felt quite smooth >>> and had reasonable torque. >> >> I think maybe you're muddling up the original 400 Dream (dumpy podgy >> styling, five-speed box) with the later Super Dream. >> >> The Super Dream was never restyled as such - just a few cosmetic >> tweaks and different graphics. > > They gave it the more "Euro" styling in 1982, with that stupid ducks > arse tail end and slightly more inspiring graphics. The basic shape > was the same though. Thinking back it was a twin front disk model (quite good brakes) made in Brazil. This would be 1983-84ish -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> I recall riding a late model which had different shape tank etc and > >>> the suspension seemed more pleasant. Ther engine felt quite smooth > >>> and had reasonable torque. > >> > >> I think maybe you're muddling up the original 400 Dream (dumpy podgy > >> styling, five-speed box) with the later Super Dream. > >> > >> The Super Dream was never restyled as such - just a few cosmetic > >> tweaks and different graphics. > > > > They gave it the more "Euro" styling in 1982, with that stupid ducks > > arse tail end and slightly more inspiring graphics. The basic shape > > was the same though. > > Thinking back it was a twin front disk model (quite good brakes) made in > Brazil. This would be 1983-84ish The CB450 was made in Brazil, not the CB400. The 450 was styled differently, and had quite a few engine differences too, including (as you say) a lot of torque. I owned one of these, too. I think you're muddled between the CB400 and the CB450. Oh, and the CB400 always had double discs. As did the 450, actually. The 250 made do with a single disc. -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD250 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> Thinking back it was a twin front disk model (quite good brakes) >> made in Brazil. This would be 1983-84ish > > The CB450 was made in Brazil, not the CB400. The 450 was styled > differently, and had quite a few engine differences too, including (as > you say) a lot of torque. I owned one of these, too. I think you're > muddled between the CB400 and the CB450. > > Oh, and the CB400 always had double discs. As did the 450, actually. > The 250 made do with a single disc. Ah yes 450cc it was. I knew it seemed like a nicer bike than the original SD. -- Hog '96 Bastard B12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Re: FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:06:44 +0100,
chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote: > >> On 3 Apr 2006 05:42:33 -0700, TOG@Toil, chateau.murray@btinternet.com, >> <chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> >It's quite a harsh engine - probably something to do with the 360 >> >dgeree crank throws, and the chain-driven balancer doesn't really sort >> >that out. The Z400 twin was also 360 degree, but although not as fast >> >at the top end, had masses of torque, which made it really nice to >> >ride. >> > >> >The Suzuki GS400 was immensely smoother, as fast, handled better and >> >looked nicer. The Yamaha XS400 had very similar performance to the >> >Honda, but was a lot cheaper o buy and much easier to maintain. And >> >more rugged. >> >> "More rugged" up until the point that it did its crank, yes? > >Never heard of that happening on a Yamaha 400. Nor a 250, come to >that..... <thinks> No, my mates XS400 definitely did a big end. So he got it fixed, liked you did in those days, by taking it to a engineers and they re-ground and "metal-sprayed" it. And, it promptly did it again. I don't think I ever heard of anyone getting a crank repaired where that crank ever stood up properly. -- Champ |
