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I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting bikes... -- Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450 K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triump Thunderbird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 The UKRMC FAQ: http://www.unixconsult.co.uk/bike/ukrmcfaq.html |
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Timo Geusch wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 > > I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. > Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting > bikes... Well... It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. It's too close to Nigel's house. Laverda 750s have already been Timoed by Doc Gonz0. Anyway, I tend to be less than enthusiastic when the description is a steaming pile of semi-literate blether that's light on hard facts, and I'd like to see better pictures. Are those Koni shocks or shagadelic originals? -- platypus "fastidious and precise" |
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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> farted out
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 > > I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. > Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting > bikes... It's not a Jota or Montjuic, so isn't 'really' a Laverda. ![]() -- Paul - xxx (mobile) |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed >Timo Geusch wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >> >> I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. >> Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting >> bikes... > >Well... > >It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. >It's too close to Nigel's house. It's worse than that, Jim. It's in *Stevenage*. <shudder> Let me know if you want me to do a non-expert look-over, Timo. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big" Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:30:49 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote: >Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> farted out >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >> >> I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. >> Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting >> bikes... > >It's not a Jota or Montjuic, so isn't 'really' a Laverda. Utter nonsense. The 750 is *the* Laverda to own for the afficionados. Of course, the one to own is the SFC, but they are incredibly rare, and 9 out of 10 that claim to be aren't. -- Champ |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:20:38 +0100, "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 Now, Timo, that is *very* out of character - you seem to have owned nothing but assorted crap since I've known you, whereas as that is a very desriable motorcycle. Er, you do know about Laverda clutches, yes? -- Champ |
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Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:20:38 +0100, "Timo Geusch" > <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 > > Now, Timo, that is very out of character - you seem to have owned > nothing but assorted crap since I've known you, whereas as that is a > very desriable motorcycle. *cough* Bimota *cough* <goes off to find another steaming pile instead to stay in character> > Er, you do know about Laverda clutches, yes? Let me guess - agricultural as if they were made in a tractor factory? Bummer. There goes that idea then. -- Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450 K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triump Thunderbird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 The UKRMC FAQ: http://www.unixconsult.co.uk/bike/ukrmcfaq.html |
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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 > > I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. Some > people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting bikes... Quite a sane choice, yes. A mate had one, years ago. Those old twins run for ever. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 > > > > I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. > > Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting > > bikes... > > Quite a sane choice, yes. A mate had one, years ago. Those old twins > run for ever. Now I'm really worried. We've got me, Laverda and "sane choice" in pretty much the same sentence. -- Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450 K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triump Thunderbird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 The UKRMC FAQ: http://www.unixconsult.co.uk/bike/ukrmcfaq.html |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:26:19 +0100, "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: >Champ wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:20:38 +0100, "Timo Geusch" >> <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >> >> Now, Timo, that is very out of character - you seem to have owned >> nothing but assorted crap since I've known you, whereas as that is a >> very desriable motorcycle. > >*cough* Bimota *cough* Ah, good point. But - did you ever actually ride it? >> Er, you do know about Laverda clutches, yes? > >Let me guess - agricultural as if they were made in a tractor factory? I don't know about the 750, but the triples have a (justified) reputation for exceedingly heavy clutches. If you're remotely serious about this bike, I'll put you in touch with my mate Keef who knows an awful lot about Laverdas. Drop me an email at neal at champ dot org dot uk. -- Champ neal at champ dot org dot uk |
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Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> writes
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:30:49 +0100, "Paul - xxx" ><notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> farted out >>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>> >>> I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. >>> Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting >>> bikes... >> >>It's not a Jota or Montjuic, so isn't 'really' a Laverda. > >Utter nonsense. The 750 is *the* Laverda to own for the afficionados. >Of course, the one to own is the SFC, but they are incredibly rare, >and 9 out of 10 that claim to be aren't. And the ones that are[1] make bloody awful road bikes - so I'm told, I can't afford one & don't fold up enough anyway. The SF series of 750s seem to make great road bikes & seem to go much better than any heavy old 750 twin has any right to. Either that or they're usually ridden by nutters. Bob [1] For anyone seriously contemplating an SFC750 the thing to do is ask around - there's a Dutch bloke called Marnix[2] who will (most likely) be able to tell from the frame number if it's real or fake & what it's history is. There was a scam a couple of years back where an Italian restorer was allegedly cloning SFCs he was restoring, sending the clone to the owner & selling the pukka one on... [2] He wrote the book on them. -- Bob Scott |
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"Champ" <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message news:b97ra3l2h6k4ak115ice36iiqep6geo2kg@4ax.com... > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:26:19 +0100, "Timo Geusch" > <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > >>Champ wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:20:38 +0100, "Timo Geusch" >>> <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>> >>> Now, Timo, that is very out of character - you seem to have owned >>> nothing but assorted crap since I've known you, whereas as that is a >>> very desriable motorcycle. >> >>*cough* Bimota *cough* > > Ah, good point. But - did you ever actually ride it? > >>> Er, you do know about Laverda clutches, yes? >> >>Let me guess - agricultural as if they were made in a tractor factory? > > I don't know about the 750, but the triples have a (justified) > reputation for exceedingly heavy clutches. The only Laverda I've ever ridden was an RGS. That had a hydraulic clutch which, although heavy, I don't recall as being unpleasantly heavy. Maybe the cable operated ones were different? |
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Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:30:49 +0100, "Paul - xxx" > <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> farted out >>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>> >>> I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. >>> Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting >>> bikes... >> >> It's not a Jota or Montjuic, so isn't 'really' a Laverda. > > Utter nonsense. The 750 is *the* Laverda to own for the afficionados. > Of course, the one to own is the SFC, but they are incredibly rare, > and 9 out of 10 that claim to be aren't. I dunno. They passed me by in my youth and the only ones I remember really are the Laverda (mate had one for years) and Montjuic one of which I rode and raced for a couple of years on and off. I know there were 'other' Laverdas but don't really know much of them. My OP was meant to be tongue in cheek ... ![]() -- Paul - xxx |
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Champ wrote:
>>> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>> >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>*cough* Bimota *cough* > >Ah, good point. But - did you ever actually ride it? <does nodding dog impression> Oh yessss! >>> Er, you do know about Laverda clutches, yes? >> >>Let me guess - agricultural as if they were made in a tractor factory? > >I don't know about the 750, but the triples have a (justified) >reputation for exceedingly heavy clutches. > >If you're remotely serious about this bike, I'll put you in touch with >my mate Keef who knows an awful lot about Laverdas. Drop me an email >at neal at champ dot org dot uk. Will do tonight. I'm kinda serious about it but it's probably going for more than I'd want to pay. Probably best if I ask WUN to check it out first and then take it from there. -- Message posted via http://www.motorcyclekb.com |
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"platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:Fl7ri.6663$By5.693@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ... > Timo Geusch wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >> >> I hate it when I've got cash in my wallet and space in the garage. >> Some people seem to notice and then roll out all those tempting >> bikes... > > Well... > > It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. This isn't green: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1978-LAVERDA-A...QQcmdZViewItem |
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Paul - xxx wrote:
> I dunno. They passed me by in my youth and the only ones I remember > really are the Laverda .... Doh! Jota .... -- Paul - xxx |
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DogBreath wrote:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>> >[quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. > >This isn't green: >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1978-LAVERDA-A...QQcmdZViewItem Yeah, I've seen that - sounds a bit sheddy to me, TBH. -- Message posted via http://www.motorcyclekb.com |
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"The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote in message news:75f10e90c1983@uwe... > DogBreath wrote: >>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200133231655 >>>> >>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> >>> It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. >> >>This isn't green: >>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1978-LAVERDA-A...QQcmdZViewItem > > Yeah, I've seen that - sounds a bit sheddy to me, TBH. Its not green though... :-) |
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DogBreath <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote:
> That had a hydraulic clutch which, although heavy, I don't recall as being > unpleasantly heavy. > Maybe the cable operated ones were different? They were. Trust me. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... |
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"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:1i22jyv.10e9byb18h4agdN%chateau.murrayTAKETHI SOUT@dsl.pipex.com... > DogBreath <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That had a hydraulic clutch which, although heavy, I don't recall as >> being >> unpleasantly heavy. >> Maybe the cable operated ones were different? > > They were. Trust me. Ok. I'll trust you. Thinks: Maybe that's why they described the RGS as an "Executive" bike: It had a girly hydraulic clutch... |
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The Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>DogBreath <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That had a hydraulic clutch which, although heavy, I don't recall as being >> unpleasantly heavy. >> Maybe the cable operated ones were different? > >They were. Trust me. > They vary a surprising amount - I've experienced an SF2 clutch so heavy that I couldn't operate with both hands (the owner called me a winp) but there was a 750GT clutch that was as light as the hydraulic clutch on my SFC1000. Cable routing & condition obviously have a lot to do with the clutch action and there is (was?) a longer clutch actuation arm conversion available which should lighten the action. I suspect it would be possible to bodge^H^Hconvert a hydraulic mechanism from one of the early hydraulic clutch triples onto a 750 but I've never seen it done. -- Bob Scott |
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DogBreath wrote:
> > "The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote in > message news:75f10e90c1983@uwe... > > DogBreath wrote: > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...item=200133231 > > > > > 655 > > > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > > > > > It's that dreadful Kawasaki green colour. > > > > > > This isn't green: > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1978-LAVERDA-A...emZ20013298016 > > > 6QQihZ010QQcategoryZ122172QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Yeah, I've seen that - sounds a bit sheddy to me, TBH. > > Its not green though... > :-) But I don't mind a green bike either ![]() -- Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450 K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triump Thunderbird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 The UKRMC FAQ: http://www.unixconsult.co.uk/bike/ukrmcfaq.html |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:28:03 GMT, Bob Scott <Bob@bobandaileen.co.uk>
wrote: >>>It's not a Jota or Montjuic, so isn't 'really' a Laverda. >> >>Utter nonsense. The 750 is *the* Laverda to own for the afficionados. >>Of course, the one to own is the SFC, but they are incredibly rare, >>and 9 out of 10 that claim to be aren't. > >And the ones that are[1] make bloody awful road bikes - so I'm told, I >can't afford one & don't fold up enough anyway. I've not ridden one, but I've been *very* close, as one of Keef's dutch mates brought one to the TT this year >The SF series of 750s seem to make great road bikes & seem to go much >better than any heavy old 750 twin has any right to. Either that or >they're usually ridden by nutters. I don't think there are any sensible Laverda owners. >[1] For anyone seriously contemplating an SFC750 the thing to do is ask >around - there's a Dutch bloke called Marnix[2] who will (most likely) >be able to tell from the frame number if it's real or fake & what it's >history is. There was a scam a couple of years back where an Italian >restorer was allegedly cloning SFCs he was restoring, sending the clone >to the owner & selling the pukka one on... >[2] He wrote the book on them. he - I met Marnix at Keef's this year too. Small world, innit. -- Champ |
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Champ wrote:
>If you're remotely serious about this bike, I'll put you in touch with >my mate Keef who knows an awful lot about Laverdas. Drop me an email >at neal at champ dot org dot uk. Thanks again for the offer but I've decided to forget about it - another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the moment. -- Message posted via http://www.motorcyclekb.com |
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> > If you're remotely serious about this bike, I'll put you in touch with > > my mate Keef who knows an awful lot about Laverdas. Drop me an email > > at neal at champ dot org dot uk. > > Thanks again for the offer but I've decided to forget about it - > another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the > moment. That's probably the thinnest excuse for not buying a bike I've ever heard. "It's a bit hurty wurty". -- Simon |
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sweller wrote:
>> > If you're remotely serious about this bike, I'll put you in touch with >> > my mate Keef who knows an awful lot about Laverdas. Drop me an email >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the >> moment. > >That's probably the thinnest excuse for not buying a bike I've ever >heard. "It's a bit hurty wurty". Come back when you know what it's like to lose sensation in an arm *completely* from the shoulder down, accompanied by problems controlling several fingers on your hand, simply because you rode a bike with a clutch that's "a tad heavy". *Then* you're welcome to make comments like that. And yes, that's one of the cases where my sense of humour needs to call out the RAC as it's broken down. -- Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Foru...assic/200707/1 |
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> sweller wrote: >>>another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the >>>moment. >> >>That's probably the thinnest excuse for not buying a bike I've ever >>heard. "It's a bit hurty wurty". > > > Come back when you know what it's like to lose sensation in an arm > *completely* from the shoulder down, accompanied by problems controlling > several fingers on your hand, simply because you rode a bike with a clutch > that's "a tad heavy". > > *Then* you're welcome to make comments like that. > > And yes, that's one of the cases where my sense of humour needs to call out > the RAC as it's broken down. I think there is a market for a vacuum servo-assisted clutch retrofit kit. I helped my brother install one of the "E-Z Clutch" kits on his wife's Sportster, it wasn't really much of an improvement. -- '01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 |
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Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote: > > sweller wrote: > > >>>another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the > >>>moment. > >> > >>That's probably the thinnest excuse for not buying a bike I've ever > >>heard. "It's a bit hurty wurty". > > > > > > Come back when you know what it's like to lose sensation in an arm > > *completely* from the shoulder down, accompanied by problems controlling > > several fingers on your hand, simply because you rode a bike with a clutch > > that's "a tad heavy". > > > > *Then* you're welcome to make comments like that. > > > > And yes, that's one of the cases where my sense of humour needs to call out > > the RAC as it's broken down. > > I think there is a market for a vacuum servo-assisted clutch retrofit kit. > I helped my brother install one of the "E-Z Clutch" kits on his wife's > Sportster, it wasn't really much of an improvement. NADB probably knows where to find things like that. -- K1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... |
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> >>>another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the >> >>>moment. >[quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> I helped my brother install one of the "E-Z Clutch" kits on his wife's >> Sportster, it wasn't really much of an improvement. > >NADB probably knows where to find things like that. They do. I had one, they do work but it very much depends on the bike (for example, they doN't work on BMW Ks because they're reducing the travel at the clutch end due to the gearing that's part of the mechanism). However it seems that the best thing you can do on a Harley is to fit the Magura hydraulic clutch conversion. Which is incidentally exactly what I plan to do if/when I find one that fits both my requirements and my wallet. -- Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Foru...assic/200707/1 |
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the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote: >>>>>> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at >>>>>> the moment. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> I helped my brother install one of the "E-Z Clutch" kits on his >>> wife's Sportster, it wasn't really much of an improvement. >> >> NADB probably knows where to find things like that. > > They do. I had one, they do work but it very much depends on the bike > (for example, they doN't work on BMW Ks because they're reducing the > travel at the clutch end due to the gearing that's part of the > mechanism). > > However it seems that the best thing you can do on a Harley is to fit > the Magura hydraulic clutch conversion. Which is incidentally exactly > what I plan to do if/when I find one that fits both my requirements > and my wallet. FJR1300 auto? -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Hog wrote:
>>>>>>> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at >>>>>>> the moment. >[quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> what I plan to do if/when I find one that fits both my requirements >> and my wallet. > >FJR1300 auto? Fitted with forward controls, presumably? -- Message posted via http://www.motorcyclekb.com |
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> Hog wrote: >>>>>>>> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need >>>>>>>> at the moment. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> what I plan to do if/when I find one that fits both my requirements >>> and my wallet. >> >> FJR1300 auto? > > Fitted with forward controls, presumably? Does it need them? -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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Hog wrote:
>>>>>>>>> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need >>>>>>>>> at the moment. >[quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Fitted with forward controls, presumably? > >Does it need them? No, but it looks like I need them, at least some of the time ![]() -- Message posted via http://www.motorcyclekb.com |
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The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com wrote:
> >> another bike with a heavy clutch is exactly what I don't need at the > >> moment. > > > > That's probably the thinnest excuse for not buying a bike I've ever > > heard. "It's a bit hurty wurty". > > Come back when you know what it's like to lose sensation in an arm > *completely* from the shoulder down, accompanied by problems controlling > several fingers on your hand, simply because you rode a bike with a > clutch that's "a tad heavy". > > *Then* you're welcome to make comments like that. "I have a Moto Guzzi" -- Simon |
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