Hog

I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn experience
(1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous (and poor) but
for some reason I never thought seriously about Gliding, until now. I
guess the need for uplift seemed even more hassle than in parachuting. I
should really try it before knocking it and in particular reading about
Motor Gliders caught my interest.

Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in the
Leeds/York area.

(1) I'm happy to admit a Red Bull type biplane or Mig would spark new
interest (and poverty)

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

christofire

Hog wrote:

> in particular reading about Motor Gliders

Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.

--
Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R

Eddie

Hog wrote:
>
> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in the
> Leeds/York area.

I bought Clare a voucher for a trial lesson, which she used last
weekend. It included one month's membership of the club, so she can go
along any time and fly at members' rates, which seem to be very reasonable.

I suspect most clubs will have something similar.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm

Danny

Hog wrote:
> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn experience
> (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous (and poor) but
> for some reason I never thought seriously about Gliding, until now. I
> guess the need for uplift seemed even more hassle than in parachuting. I
> should really try it before knocking it and in particular reading about
> Motor Gliders caught my interest.
>
> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in the
> Leeds/York area.
>
> (1) I'm happy to admit a Red Bull type biplane or Mig would spark new
> interest (and poverty)
>

Can't help with your quest but I thoroughly enjoyed the gliding I did
whilst in the ATC in my youth. I went on to hang gliding until a
motorcycling injury left me with a weak knee so I couldn't actually
run down the hill at Baildon Moor with enough conviction for a good
launch (wind got me and turned me back into the hill!). I still have
a Solar Wings Typhoon in the garage

--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)

Greybeard

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5g6363F3en919U1@mid.individual.net...
> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn experience
> (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous (and poor) but
> for some reason I never thought seriously about Gliding, until now. I
> guess the need for uplift seemed even more hassle than in parachuting. I
> should really try it before knocking it and in particular reading about
> Motor Gliders caught my interest.

Motorgliders (Grob, for one) are normally self launching group a planes. You
need a full PPL for the thing. But, and the good part comes here, if you
know how to glide (properly) and have good thermals etc, you can really go
places, cheaply!
Take off, climb to atlitude, shut-off engine glide down, catch a thermal,
gain lift on thermal to altitude again and off you go. Just start the negine
if you can't find a thermal and carry on. All logable hours even with the
fan turned off.

> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in the
> Leeds/York area.

Pocklington! Nice pub nearby as well.

HTH
--
Greybeard

FLHTCUI UK-07 Mk II
Trumpet Trophy 1200 new one coming soon!
Garmin Zumo 550, To get me home!

ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk

Hog

Greybeard wrote:
> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5g6363F3en919U1@mid.individual.net...
>> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn
>> experience (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous
>> (and poor) but for some reason I never thought seriously about
>> Gliding, until now. I guess the need for uplift seemed even more
>> hassle than in parachuting. I should really try it before knocking
>> it and in particular reading about Motor Gliders caught my interest.
>
> Motorgliders (Grob, for one) are normally self launching group a
> planes. You need a full PPL for the thing. But, and the good part
> comes here, if you know how to glide (properly) and have good
> thermals etc, you can really go places, cheaply!
> Take off, climb to atlitude, shut-off engine glide down, catch a
> thermal, gain lift on thermal to altitude again and off you go. Just
> start the negine if you can't find a thermal and carry on. All
> logable hours even with the fan turned off.
>
>> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in
>> the Leeds/York area.
>
> Pocklington! Nice pub nearby as well.

Ah excellent thanks. Handy for the Madhyamaka centre too. I feel a
weekend trip coming on soon. What's best for a trial run, Winch. Aerotow
or Motorglider?

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Greybeard

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5g6ovvF3emqfhU1@mid.individual.net...
> Greybeard wrote:
>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5g6363F3en919U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn
>>> experience (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous
>>> (and poor) but for some reason I never thought seriously about
>>> Gliding, until now. I guess the need for uplift seemed even more
>>> hassle than in parachuting. I should really try it before knocking
>>> it and in particular reading about Motor Gliders caught my interest.
>>
>> Motorgliders (Grob, for one) are normally self launching group a
>> planes. You need a full PPL for the thing. But, and the good part
>> comes here, if you know how to glide (properly) and have good
>> thermals etc, you can really go places, cheaply!
>> Take off, climb to atlitude, shut-off engine glide down, catch a
>> thermal, gain lift on thermal to altitude again and off you go. Just
>> start the negine if you can't find a thermal and carry on. All
>> logable hours even with the fan turned off.
>>
>>> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in
>>> the Leeds/York area.
>>
>> Pocklington! Nice pub nearby as well.
>
> Ah excellent thanks. Handy for the Madhyamaka centre too. I feel a weekend
> trip coming on soon. What's best for a trial run, Winch. Aerotow or
> Motorglider?

Motorglider if you get the chance. You can then stay up for as long as your
lesson lasts.
Otherwise it doesn't really matter, you're at the mercy of gravity!

--
Greybeard

FLHTCUI UK-07 Mk II
Trumpet Trophy 1200 new one coming soon!
Garmin Zumo 550, To get me home!

ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk

platypus

Hog wrote:
>
> Ah excellent thanks. Handy for the Madhyamaka centre too. I feel a
> weekend trip coming on soon. What's best for a trial run, Winch.
> Aerotow or Motorglider?

I love winch launches - your ass is seriously hauled up to altitude.
Aerotow is an interesting challenge, because you've got to steer the glider
to follow the tow plane. Motorglider, you just take off like a Cessna, fly
to where you want to glide, then turn off the aircon. This can potentially
give the longest airtime.

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Mark

Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5g6363F3en919U1@mid.individual.net...
> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn experience
> (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous (and poor) but
> for some reason I never thought seriously about Gliding, until now.

Gliding is a lot more fun then any Cessna type plane, every landing is
(almost) now or never
but like CB125>GS500 both get boring once you have mastered them.
If you are willing to up the Fun/risk factor CB600, bypass the gliding and
go straight for hang-gliding or Paragliding.
YMMV

Beav

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5g6363F3en919U1@mid.individual.net...
> I've tried flying small Cessna type planes, they were a yawn experience
> (1) and small helicopters, they made me slightly nauseous (and poor) but
> for some reason I never thought seriously about Gliding, until now. I
> guess the need for uplift seemed even more hassle than in parachuting. I
> should really try it before knocking it and in particular reading about
> Motor Gliders caught my interest.
>
> Any recommendations and advice on getting started and for a club in the
> Leeds/York area.

There used to be (probably still is) a club in Selby for gliding.



--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

raden

In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
<chris@ukrm.org> writes
>Hog wrote:
>
>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>
>Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>
Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here

A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits



--
geoff

Beav

"raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>Hog wrote:
>>
>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>
>>Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>
> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>
> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits

A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

Hog

Beav wrote:
> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>> Hog wrote:
>>>
>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>
>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>
>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>>
>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>
> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?

The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being removed ;o)

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Pip Luscher

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>Beav wrote:
>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>
>The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
>exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being removed ;o)

Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step exit?
The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step and hold
onto the strut.

--
-Pip

Hog

Pip Luscher wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Beav wrote:
>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>
>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
>> exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being
>> removed ;o)
>
> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step exit?
> The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step and hold
> onto the strut.

Side door, no step, high wing

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

platypus

Hog wrote:
> Pip Luscher wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog"
>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Beav wrote:
>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>
>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>> being removed ;o)
>>
>> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step exit?
>> The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step and hold
>> onto the strut.
>
> Side door, no step, high wing

Strut or cantilever?

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Hog

platypus wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>> Pip Luscher wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog"
>>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Beav wrote:
>>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>>
>>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>>> being removed ;o)
>>>
>>> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step exit?
>>> The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step and hold
>>> onto the strut.
>>
>> Side door, no step, high wing
>
> Strut or cantilever?

Do I look like an aeronautical engineer?

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

platypus

Hog wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>> Hog wrote:
>>> Pip Luscher wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog"
>>>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Beav wrote:
>>>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>>>> being removed ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step
>>>> exit? The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step
>>>> and hold onto the strut.
>>>
>>> Side door, no step, high wing
>>
>> Strut or cantilever?
>
> Do I look like an aeronautical engineer?

This is a Cessna 210 with a strutted wing:

http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/ce210-01.jpg

and this is a Cessna 210 with a cantilevered wing:

http://www.atlantic-aero.com/aeromod..._inflightB.jpg

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Hog

platypus wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>> platypus wrote:
>>> Hog wrote:
>>>> Pip Luscher wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog"
>>>>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Beav wrote:
>>>>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>>>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>>>>> being removed ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step
>>>>> exit? The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step
>>>>> and hold onto the strut.
>>>>
>>>> Side door, no step, high wing
>>>
>>> Strut or cantilever?
>>
>> Do I look like an aeronautical engineer?
>
> This is a Cessna 210 with a strutted wing:
>
> http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/ce210-01.jpg
>
> and this is a Cessna 210 with a cantilevered wing:
>
> http://www.atlantic-aero.com/aeromod..._inflightB.jpg

Cantilevered wing it was.
Nothing to snag on helping a nice clean exit.

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

platypus

Hog wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>> Hog wrote:
>>> platypus wrote:
>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>> Pip Luscher wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:02:59 +0100, "Hog"
>>>>>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beav wrote:
>>>>>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>>>>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>>>>>> being removed ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yebbut was it a 206 with a rear door or a 1xx with a door/step
>>>>>> exit? The latter were fun 'cos you had to climb out onto the step
>>>>>> and hold onto the strut.
>>>>>
>>>>> Side door, no step, high wing
>>>>
>>>> Strut or cantilever?
>>>
>>> Do I look like an aeronautical engineer?
>>
>> This is a Cessna 210 with a strutted wing:
>>
>> http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/ce210-01.jpg
>>
>> and this is a Cessna 210 with a cantilevered wing:
>>
>> http://www.atlantic-aero.com/aeromod..._inflightB.jpg
>
> Cantilevered wing it was.
> Nothing to snag on helping a nice clean exit.

Unlike, say, one of these:

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTy...dam/A500FF.jpg

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Hog

platypus wrote:

> Unlike, say, one of these:
>
> http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTy...dam/A500FF.jpg

"Meat grinder"!

Rear exit planes would be the ticket. I fancy running full pelt down the
loading ramp of a C130 at 12,000 feet

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

platypus

Hog wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>
>> Unlike, say, one of these:
>>
>> http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTy...dam/A500FF.jpg
>
> "Meat grinder"!
>
> Rear exit planes would be the ticket. I fancy running full pelt down
> the loading ramp of a C130 at 12,000 feet

This plane:

http://www.aviationpictureweb.com/Warbirds/Ju-52.jpg

used to be owned by Martin Caidin. He would run a thing called the "Great
Christmas Cakewalk" where a whole bunch of jumpers lined up across the wings
before doing what comes naturally.

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Beav

"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Beav wrote:
>> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
>> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>>
>>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>>>
>>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>>
>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>
> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
> exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being removed
> ;o)

I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off. Absolutely
*ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

platypus

Beav wrote:
> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:f87l6l$ca8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Beav wrote:
>>> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
>>> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>>>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>>>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>>>>
>>>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>>>
>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>
>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
>> exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being
>> removed ;o)
>
> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.

I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a Cessna 150,
with the window up on the underside of the wing and my elbow hanging out.
Idyllic, it was.

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

Mark Olson

platypus wrote:
> Beav wrote:

>> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
>> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.
>
>
> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a Cessna
> 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my elbow
> hanging out. Idyllic, it was.

Aerobat, was it?

--
'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

Wicked Uncle Nigel

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>Beav wrote:
>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:f87l6l$ca8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Beav wrote:
>>>> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>>>>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>>>>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>>>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>>>>>
>>>>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>>>>
>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>
>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
>>> exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being
>>> removed ;o)
>>
>> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
>> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.
>
>I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a Cessna
>150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my elbow
>hanging out. Idyllic, it was.

Heh. From my flying blog:

'Meanwhile, back in the Cessna, my door flew open. Gulp. I'M GONNA DIE!
"MartinMartinMartinMartin, my door's open! It's really open Martin!
MARTIN!". "Oh, better close it then." So I did. Pah! This sort of stuff
happens to we pilots all the time, it's no big deal.'

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando

platypus

Mark Olson wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>> Beav wrote:
>
>>> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
>>> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.
>>
>>
>> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a
>> Cessna 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my
>> elbow hanging out. Idyllic, it was.
>
> Aerobat, was it?

Not as I recall. The door window on a 150 can open fully so it's flat with
the underside of the wing, and the airflow will keep it there.

--
platypus

"fastidious and precise"

platypus

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
> <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>> Beav wrote:
>>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:f87l6l$ca8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Beav wrote:
>>>>> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>>>>>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>>>>>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>>>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>>>>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down
>>>>>> here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>>>>>
>>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>>
>>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was
>>>> mildly exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors
>>>> being removed ;o)
>>>
>>> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
>>> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.
>>
>> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a
>> Cessna 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my
>> elbow hanging out. Idyllic, it was.
>
> Heh. From my flying blog:
>
> 'Meanwhile, back in the Cessna, my door flew open. Gulp. I'M GONNA
> DIE! "MartinMartinMartinMartin, my door's open! It's really open
> Martin! MARTIN!". "Oh, better close it then." So I did. Pah! This
> sort of stuff happens to we pilots all the time, it's no big deal.'

No different from a car, apart from the flimsiness.

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
>> <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>>> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a
>>> Cessna 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my
>>> elbow hanging out. Idyllic, it was.
>> Heh. From my flying blog:
>> 'Meanwhile, back in the Cessna, my door flew open. Gulp. I'M GONNA
>> DIE! "MartinMartinMartinMartin, my door's open! It's really open
>> Martin! MARTIN!". "Oh, better close it then." So I did. Pah! This
>> sort of stuff happens to we pilots all the time, it's no big deal.'
>
>No different from a car, apart from the flimsiness.

Oh aye, I know that now. But peering down at Bedfordshire from a
thousand feet was a little unexpected at the time.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
> <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
>>> <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
>>>> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a
>>>> Cessna 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my
>>>> elbow hanging out. Idyllic, it was.
>>> Heh. From my flying blog:
>>> 'Meanwhile, back in the Cessna, my door flew open. Gulp. I'M GONNA
>>> DIE! "MartinMartinMartinMartin, my door's open! It's really open
>>> Martin! MARTIN!". "Oh, better close it then." So I did. Pah! This
>>> sort of stuff happens to we pilots all the time, it's no big deal.'
>>
>> No different from a car, apart from the flimsiness.
>
> Oh aye, I know that now. But peering down at Bedfordshire from a
> thousand feet was a little unexpected at the time.

Ged yes, that's a bit close for comfort.

You should try one of these:

http://www.theworldisyourocean.net/i...microlight.jpg

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Pip Luscher

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:08:47 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>platypus wrote:
>> This is a Cessna 210 with a strutted wing:
>>
>> http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/ce210-01.jpg
>>
>> and this is a Cessna 210 with a cantilevered wing:
>>
>> http://www.atlantic-aero.com/aeromod..._inflightB.jpg
>
>Cantilevered wing it was.
>Nothing to snag on helping a nice clean exit.

Sounds like a 206 to me.

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Pip Luscher

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:41:10 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>platypus wrote:
>
>> Unlike, say, one of these:
>>
>> http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTy...dam/A500FF.jpg
>
>"Meat grinder"!
>
>Rear exit planes would be the ticket. I fancy running full pelt down the
>loading ramp of a C130 at 12,000 feet

I've done that out of a Short Skyvan. This was after a largish
formation went out: I wasn't expecting the 'whoosh' as the bodies hit
the slipstream or the way the aircraft lifted and surged forward,
either.

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Beav

"platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bS2qi.4662$By5.1065@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Beav wrote:
>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:f87l6l$ca8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Beav wrote:
>>>> "raden" <raden@kateda.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:E7ct$VWFC$nGFwpf@ntlworld.com...
>>>>> In message <xn0f8uh671fisw001@news.motzarella.org>, christofire
>>>>> <chris@ukrm.org> writes
>>>>>> Hog wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in particular reading about Motor Gliders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't they just planes? WRT the rest of it, I think Wizard (or
>>>>>> somebody) organised a gliding thing a while ago. He might know.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, we're all experts with about 15 minutes experience down here
>>>>>
>>>>> A glider's like a cessna without the exciting bits
>>>>
>>>> A Cessna's a bit like a plane innit?
>>>
>>> The Scottish parachute club had a single engine Cessna. It was mildly
>>> exciting, in the main part due to to the right hand doors being
>>> removed ;o)
>>
>> I spent a few hours flying a Robinson R22 with both doors off.
>> Absolutely *ruined* it for me to ever fly with doors on again.
>
> I remember spending a sunny Sunday afternoon doing circuits in a Cessna
> 150, with the window up on the underside of the wing and my elbow hanging
> out. Idyllic, it was.

Skyway cruisin' eh? Sounds kewl


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