Ace

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:00:38 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Ace <seesig@virgin.net> wrote:

>> But twins are so... industrial sounding. For best aural results, you
>> can't beat a triple.
>
>I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
>has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
>makes music.

Industrial music.

>Fours just sound... well, dull. Tell you what does sound glorious - my
>neighbour has one of those 1500 Valkyrie customs: you know, the Gold
>Wing derived things. And it has slightly naughty end cans, and that flat
>six sounds superb.

Ah well, if you're going to get proper silly, you might as well go the
whole hog and get a V8. Not hugely practical on two wheels, to be
sure. But then it was you who mentioned the Valkyrie.
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crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com

In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Pip Luscher <pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Fours should be ridden and not heard IMO.
>
> *Nice*
>

Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
single saying DOOF DOOF DOOF at every 2nd lamp post.

Pip Luscher

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:16:07 +0000 (UTC), crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
wrote:

>In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> Pip Luscher <pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Fours should be ridden and not heard IMO.
>>
>> *Nice*
>>
>
>Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
>single

Not necesssarily. I like big singles too. In fact, there's a chap who
often commutes on a Matchless along a fair part of my usual route.
Lovely sound.

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-Pip

AW

On Jul 29, 11:00 am, chateau.murrayTAKETHIS...@dsl.pipex.com (The
Older Gentleman) wrote:
> Ace <see...@virgin.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:21:26 +0100,
> > chateau.murrayTAKETHIS...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> > >Pip Luscher <pips.compu...@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >> Fours should be ridden and not heard IMO.
>
> > >*Nice*
>
> > But twins are so... industrial sounding. For best aural results, you
> > can't beat a triple.
>
> I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
> has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
> makes music.

Agreed

> Fours just sound... well, dull.

A standard road 4 with the OE retrictive can does sound dull, but the
howl of a race tuned 4 at full chat is pretty good too.

AW

c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

> Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
> single saying DOOF DOOF DOOF at every 2nd lamp post.

Would that be your single brain cell? ;-)

The Older Gentleman

Ace <seesig@virgin.net> wrote:

> Ah well, if you're going to get proper silly, you might as well go the
> whole hog and get a V8.

Ah yes:

"Woffle-woffle-woffle.... BLAARRR!"


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<crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote:

>
> Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
> single saying DOOF DOOF DOOF at every 2nd lamp post.
>
>
Some singles sound nice, but they don't make music. The big single
racers at Chimay got close to the pain threshold.

(The 50cc two-strokes exceeded it)


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Champ

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:00:38 +0100,
chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>> >> Fours should be ridden and not heard IMO.
>> >
>> >*Nice*
>>
>> But twins are so... industrial sounding. For best aural results, you
>> can't beat a triple.
>
>I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
>has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
>makes music.

Nah, I'm with Ace - the best sound is a 120 deg triple.

Except for a CBX with a 6 into 1.

>Fours just sound... well, dull.

<shrug> It's the noise I (mostly) grew up with, and a four on song is
still a thing of beauty for me.
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Champ

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:30:35 GMT, Pip Luscher
<pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:

>>Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
>>single
>
>Not necesssarily. I like big singles too.

Er, Pip, you may not be old in years, but you're definitely an old
fart in outlook :-)
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To email me, neal at my domain should work.

wessie

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:2t3pa3hv18nbp4ij7vn18kjb757rhp9584@
4ax.com:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:30:35 GMT, Pip Luscher
> <pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
>>>single
>>
>>Not necesssarily. I like big singles too.
>
> Er, Pip, you may not be old in years, but you're definitely an old
> fart in outlook :-)

and xnews, turnpike, gravity, agent ...

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Ace

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:00:22 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:00:38 +0100,
>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>>I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
>>has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
>>makes music.
>
>Nah, I'm with Ace - the best sound is a 120 deg triple.

Is Keith's Laverda (Jota?) the 120 motor?

>Except for a CBX with a 6 into 1.

Oh yeah, or even the Benelli, if you can tune out the rattly
exhausts...

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Champ

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:51:22 +0200, Ace <seesig@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:00:22 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:00:38 +0100,
>>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>>>I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
>>>has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
>>>makes music.
>>
>>Nah, I'm with Ace - the best sound is a 120 deg triple.
>
>Is Keith's Laverda (Jota?) the 120 motor?

Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in tin shack.

>>Except for a CBX with a 6 into 1.
>
>Oh yeah, or even the Benelli, if you can tune out the rattly
>exhausts...

I think the rattles were in the crankcases.

--
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Ace

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:54:46 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:51:22 +0200, Ace <seesig@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:00:22 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:00:38 +0100,
>>>chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>>>>I dunno. I love a good triple on song, but a 360 degree parallel twin
>>>>has a snarl that is really visceral, and a good vee-twin like a Duke
>>>>makes music.
>>>
>>>Nah, I'm with Ace - the best sound is a 120 deg triple.
>>
>>Is Keith's Laverda (Jota?) the 120 motor?
>
>Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
>parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in tin shack.
>
>>>Except for a CBX with a 6 into 1.
>>
>>Oh yeah, or even the Benelli, if you can tune out the rattly
>>exhausts...
>
>I think the rattles were in the crankcases.

Yeah, I think you're probably right.
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Bear

In article <kghpa39melkg6q9lbjsq3qkk8fipo8qeq1@4ax.com>, Champ says...

> Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
> parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in tin shack.

lol.

Great description

The 120 is the later, more civilised one, yes?
--
Bear

Champ

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:22:59 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <kghpa39melkg6q9lbjsq3qkk8fipo8qeq1@4ax.com>, Champ says...
>
>> Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
>> parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in a tin shack.
>
>lol.
>
>Great description
>
>The 120 is the later, more civilised one, yes?

That's right. To my mind, a better motor, but it lacks the rawness
that made the Jota famous.

I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.

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Bear

In article <oejpa3tsfq95m1rtuiekn82us3jiu5sh4a@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:22:59 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <kghpa39melkg6q9lbjsq3qkk8fipo8qeq1@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> >
> >> Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
> >> parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in a tin shack.
> >
> >lol.
> >
> >Great description
> >
> >The 120 is the later, more civilised one, yes?
>
> That's right. To my mind, a better motor, but it lacks the rawness
> that made the Jota famous.

That'd be the Corsa and the Corsa SFC, yes?

> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.

And geography, if you get it wrong
--
Bear

Pip Luscher

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:01:50 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:30:35 GMT, Pip Luscher
><pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>Probably an oldfart thing, but for me nothing beats the sound of a big
>>>single
>>
>>Not necesssarily. I like big singles too.
>
>Er, Pip, you may not be old in years, but you're definitely an old
>fart in outlook :-)

<borrows WUN's haughty sniff>

Though I'm happy to see that the prefix 'boring' is missing.

--
-Pip

Champ

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:43:25 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> >> Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
>> >> parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in a tin shack.
>> >
>> >lol.
>> >
>> >Great description
>> >
>> >The 120 is the later, more civilised one, yes?
>>
>> That's right. To my mind, a better motor, but it lacks the rawness
>> that made the Jota famous.
>
>That'd be the Corsa and the Corsa SFC, yes?

Hmm. I think so. I'm no expert on Lavs.

>> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
>
>And geography, if you get it wrong

Er, yes. Do *NOT* shut the throttle on the way into a corner.

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The Older Gentleman

Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <oejpa3tsfq95m1rtuiekn82us3jiu5sh4a@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> > On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:22:59 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article <kghpa39melkg6q9lbjsq3qkk8fipo8qeq1@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> > >
> > >> Nah, his is a 'proper' Jota with the 180 crank. Which sounds like a
> > >> parallel twin having a punch up with a big single in a tin shack.
> > >
> > >lol.
> > >
> > >Great description
> > >
> > >The 120 is the later, more civilised one, yes?
> >
> > That's right. To my mind, a better motor, but it lacks the rawness
> > that made the Jota famous.
>
> That'd be the Corsa and the Corsa SFC, yes?
>
RGS, Corse, RGA, Corsa SFC et al used the 120 motor.


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sweller

Champ wrote:

> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.

<resists>

--
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sweller

Champ wrote:

> > And geography, if you get it wrong
>
> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on the way into a corner.

This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and live to
tell the tale.

--
Simon

Champ

On 30 Jul 2007 07:27:42 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
>
><resists>

heh.

I lamented your absence at Platy's on Sat night, when I arrived
downstairs after using his shower and said "after 3 days, that feels
so good".
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sweller

Champ wrote:

> >> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
> >
> > <resists>
>
> heh.
>
> I lamented your absence at Platy's on Sat night, when I arrived
> downstairs after using his shower and said "after 3 days, that feels
> so good".

....but I can't play saxophone.

--
Simon

platypus

Champ wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2007 07:27:42 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
>>
>> <resists>
>
> heh.
>
> I lamented your absence at Platy's on Sat night, when I arrived
> downstairs after using his shower and said "after 3 days, that feels
> so good".

It was obviously a MM quote, and I briefly debated feigning amused
recognition.

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"fastidious and precise"

Champ

On 30 Jul 2007 07:28:26 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> > And geography, if you get it wrong
>>
>> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on the way into a corner.
>
>This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and live to
>tell the tale.

To be honest, most bikes will complain of this if you're going fast
enough. Even the full on ZX6RR I raced a few weeks ago would get out
of shape over the bumps if you did it, which is about as far removed
from a 70s Laverda as you can get.
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Hog

sweller wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>
>> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
>
> <resists>

Did others clock the black Laverda RGS at Chimay parked up on the pit side
of the bridge? Utterly gorgeous bike.

--
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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

sweller

Champ wrote:

> >> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on the way into a corner.
> >
> > This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and
> > live to tell the tale.
>
> To be honest, most bikes will complain of this if you're going fast
> enough. Even the full on ZX6RR I raced a few weeks ago would get out
> of shape over the bumps if you did it, which is about as far removed
> from a 70s Laverda as you can get.

Yes, but there's a world of difference between "complain" and "spit you
off into the scenery" - even by seventies standards

--
Simon

platypus

Hog wrote:
> sweller wrote:
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
>>
>> <resists>
>
> Did others clock the black Laverda RGS at Chimay parked up on the pit
> side of the bridge? Utterly gorgeous bike.

Yep - I took a couple of pictures of it.

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Colin

> > >> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on a Laverda on the way into a corner.
----------
> > > This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and
> > > live to tell the tale.

I'm an old git lucky enough to have some nice toys, so can compare
some of the
machinery recently mentioned. My Le Mans 1 is my favourite, as it can
easily
make the south of France in a day & you get off feeling OK. Did it
regularly when
I worked near Antibes. Totally reliable, easy to fettle, rock steady
for hundred's
of miles at a time, straight or twisty. Low seating & low centre of
gravity make it
much easier to push around than the Lav's for this short-legged, fat,
60+ rider.

Have a Laverda 180 Mirage Anniversary 1200, & a tweaked RGS 120. Much
less
difference between them than you might expect. Both very heavy lumps,
with weight
way up high -- especially with my stomach & a full tank on board. Both
a delight for
long-distance quick journeys, but a decent Bantam more useful around
the lanes.
Both horrible to push around the garage, & keeping best bit of 600lbs
upright is a
pleasure I don't enjoy when my feet only just touch the ground on any
type of
adverse camber .... Wonderful quality of engineering, thoroughly
enjoyable to ride,
& reliable, having had 25 years to shake them down.

Main difference is that my RGS has all the 120 Jota bits, & SFC wheels
& forks.
Great cruiser at high 90's, but can be a real pig around the tiny
single track country
lanes where I live. Unlike modern Jap stuff, you absolutely have to
get entry speeds
right & be in right gear etc. Very unforgiving, but for that reason,
very rewarding 'cos
you know exactly when you are riding well, without a chassis that will
tolerate
indiscretions & sloppy riding skills.

Incidentally, on the 60hp issue, 40 years ago I used to do 2-3000
miles in 3 weeks
each year touring the continent on a AJS 500 single, 2 up, with
camping gear.
Probably just about had 30hp. Raced a variety of hot stuff of the time
-- a good Manx
then made 45-50bhp. Remember having a great time, with machinery that
you
mended cheaply, in the kitchen if necessary.

Don't remember missing another 100bhp or an extra 80mph, but perhaps
some
need that for what seem to be the short long-distance rides of many
contemporary
riders........ Good luck to them, as long as their road behaviour
doesn't jeopardise
motorcycling for the rest of us -- but I have old copies of the green
'un & blue 'un
from the 1920's imploring sensible behaviour ......... plus ça
change .....

Hog

Colin wrote:

>>>>> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on a Laverda on the way into a
>>>>> corner.
> ----------
>>>> This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and
>>>> live to tell the tale.
>
> I'm an old git lucky enough to have some nice toys, so can compare
> some of the
> machinery recently mentioned. My Le Mans 1 is my favourite, as it can
> easily
> make the south of France in a day & you get off feeling OK.

You are clearly some kind of throwback or genetic aberration!

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

The Older Gentleman

Colin <cammy_norton@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Incidentally, on the 60hp issue, 40 years ago I used to do 2-3000
> miles in 3 weeks
> each year touring the continent on a AJS 500 single, 2 up, with
> camping gear.
> Probably just about had 30hp. Raced a variety of hot stuff of the time
> -- a good Manx
> then made 45-50bhp. Remember having a great time, with machinery that
> you
> mended cheaply, in the kitchen if necessary.

Oh yeah. Hell, I rode to the south of France, two-up, on a Honda CB250RS
single (20bhp at the rear wheel if you were lucky). Had a wonderful
time.

Small low-powered bikes are *fun*. But small high-powered bikes are
**more fun**.

>
> Don't remember missing another 100bhp or an extra 80mph, but perhaps
> some
> need that for what seem to be the short long-distance rides of many
> contemporary
> riders........ Good luck to them, as long as their road behaviour
> doesn't jeopardise
> motorcycling for the rest of us -- but I have old copies of the green
> 'un & blue 'un
> from the 1920's imploring sensible behaviour ......... plus ça
> change .....

As you say.....


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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> Colin wrote:
>
> >>>>> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on a Laverda on the way into a
> >>>>> corner.
> > ----------
> >>>> This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and
> >>>> live to tell the tale.
> >
> > I'm an old git lucky enough to have some nice toys, so can compare
> > some of the
> > machinery recently mentioned. My Le Mans 1 is my favourite, as it can
> > easily
> > make the south of France in a day & you get off feeling OK.
>
> You are clearly some kind of throwback or genetic aberration!

I dunno. I feel I like the guy already.....


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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> sweller wrote:
> > Champ wrote:
> >
> >> I've ridden Keith's. It's a real piece of motorcycling history.
> >
> > <resists>
>
> Did others clock the black Laverda RGS at Chimay parked up on the pit side
> of the bridge? Utterly gorgeous bike.

Yes.


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sweller

Hog wrote:

> Did others clock the black Laverda RGS at Chimay parked up on the pit
> side of the bridge? Utterly gorgeous bike.

....where was the petrol cap?

--
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Hog

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Colin wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Er, yes. Do NOT shut the throttle on a Laverda on the way into
>>>>>>> a corner.
>>> ----------
>>>>>> This is one of the reasons I like the Guzzi - you can do this and
>>>>>> live to tell the tale.
>>>
>>> I'm an old git lucky enough to have some nice toys, so can compare
>>> some of the
>>> machinery recently mentioned. My Le Mans 1 is my favourite, as it
>>> can easily
>>> make the south of France in a day & you get off feeling OK.
>>
>> You are clearly some kind of throwback or genetic aberration!
>
> I dunno. I feel I like the guy already.....

I didn't say I didn't like him!

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Hog

sweller wrote:
> Hog wrote:
>
>> Did others clock the black Laverda RGS at Chimay parked up on the pit
>> side of the bridge? Utterly gorgeous bike.
>
> ...where was the petrol cap?

Is this multiple choice?

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Champ wrote:
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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:06:09 +0000 (UTC), crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
> wrote:
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