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> Saw one completely new > name with a vaguely Panther like sloping single. Sarolea? Old Belgian arms company, started building bikes in 1898. If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've got a picture somewhere. -- platypus "fastidious and precise" |
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TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, wrote:
> Succinctly and accurately put. I mean, some twat who's just scrawled > TOGS OUT on the nearest wall might as well ask: "Unpopular because of > what I wrote on a wall?" Sounds like they'd be pretty popular round here, if you ask me. -- Chris |
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Des wrote:
> ginge <the.gingeREMOVE@thisgmail.com> wrote: > > Des wrote: > > > >> I fear that a mate and I (hopefully with a new bike by then) shall be there > >> in 2008, too. I shan't approach the UKRM camp, naturally enough, as one > >> person on here has already threatened me with physical violence, and I > >> daresay that some others have thought it, but if any UKRMers whom I've met > >> before and who still believe it possible to be civil with me want to share > >> a beer, they'll be welcome. > > > > You're such a drama queen. I really doubt anyone there would be in the > > slightest way inclined to do you any damage, other than verbally, and > > even then it would only be by taking the piss. > > > > You really need to stop being so paranoid. > > I genuinely believe you're underestimating things. Paranoia would do that. |
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On Jul 24, 11:55 am, Des <d...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> I genuinely believe you're underestimating things. Okay, you've seen who attended Chimay this year. I won't ask you to name names, but how many of those there do you seriously believe would attempt to occasion actual bodily harm upon you? I can't think of one. The worst possible outcome(IMO) would be that one or two folk would give you the cold shoulder, or be a bit rude. There have been individuals with far more intense feelings of mutual disaffection [real, personal, stuff, not a few usenet jibes] than you've been exposed to, who've managed to remain civil (if a little frosty) on all the meets I can recall attending. |
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In article <gkdhn4-g27.ln1@sivan.coughlan.fr>, Des wrote:
> TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, <chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote: >> On 24 Jul, 13:23, Phil Launchbury <ph...@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>> You are what you say. When you spout stuff designed to make people >>> dislike you then people will dislike you. It's called human nature. >> >> Succinctly and accurately put. I mean, some twat who's just scrawled >> WOGS OUT on the nearest wall might as well ask: "Unpopular because of >> what I wrote on a wall?" >> >> If it's all you have to judge someone on, you go by that. > > Get a grip, this isn't real life. It's like two blokes playing some sort Bzzt. You lose. It's as much 'real life' as any other form of social interaction. And the key here is 'social interaction' - I freely admit it's not my primary skill (especially on-line as I miss a lot of the body-language clues) but I seem to be streets ahead of you. Pre-internet were hand-written letters 'real life'? Of course they were. Taken to it's logical conclusion your premise means that nothing we say has any meaning - after all "it's just words". Phil -- Phil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' |
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In article <tldhn4-g27.ln1@sivan.coughlan.fr>, Des wrote:
> Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: >> In article <9u9hn4-ps6.ln1@sivan.coughlan.fr>, Des wrote: >> >> Which is where not rising to the bait comes in. And lets face it - you >> are not exactly innocent on the 'trolling for response' front or the >> 'saying things you don't mean to shock people' front. > > I can say with my hand on my Torah that I have not 'trolled' _once_ since I > came back here in, what was it, April .? Then you show a remarkable lack of awareness about how other people will take your words. Your words about Palestinians, your trite little phrases about other UKRM posters that you trot out - all designed to make other people think of you as a clueless troll. For a teacher you show very little communications ability. Phil. -- Phil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' |
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Des wrote:
> Rendez-vous 2008, then? Is that the new Jean-Michel Jarre Album? -- Chris |
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In article <%K9pi.2951$By5.1149@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> ,
monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk (platypus) wrote: > Then the black and tans turned up > to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to > arrest him - Not hard that, they have no enforcement powers, those are still reserved for the actual police. That is why they are driving cars labelled "Traffic Officer" and not police cars. Ken Young |
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Des <des@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
<0ijhn4-fl7.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>: <SNIP> >On the one hand, I allow myself the luxury of responding almost violently >in a manner I'd never dare do in real life, precisely because to me, Usenet >_isn't_ real life. > >And on the other, you lot read what I write, and seem to be saying, 'well >it's only words, but it _is_ real life!'. > >So here I am, scratching my head and saying, 'what are they getting so >upset about what I write for ??', and there you are, scratching your head >and saying, 'if he posts this stuff, how can he be surprised that we hate >his guts??' > >Would the above be an accurate assessment of the situation? > >So on the one hand, I have to 'think' before posting, reminding myself that >some people out there might not have the same sarcastic sense of humour >that I have ... and on the other hand, you lot should read my posts and >tell yourself, 'he doesn't _mean_ to abuse us...' The issue with your posts, from my perspective, isn't that they are any ruder than anyone elses. It's the fact that they degrade into threads that are terminally boring with you adopting what appears to be a schoolboy type persona insisting you've "won" all the time etc. It's not only the fact it's you in the threads that bores me to tears, it's everyone else. There's little in the way of humour. Then, we compound that with the oft expressed persecution complex and, well, to be blunt it's a more interesting place when you're not here. You state that the arrogant, sarcastic poster isn't your real life persona, all well and good. However it is your real life person that makes those posts which make this NG a more tedious place than I'd like it to be; I suspect that's what people take umbrage at (assuming others have similar views to I and, to be blunt, it's not something that exercises much thought on my part.) -- K75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. I know I aint doing much, doing nothing means a lot to me. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:16:55 +0100, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:14:19 GMT, "platypus" ><monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>The rear axle had unwound itself sufficiently to allow the wheel to drift >>clear of the splines. Suddenly the gearbox appeared full of false neutrals. >>Obviously this wasn't the case, so I dived off onto the hard shoulder, dug >>out a couple of spanners and retightened the thing. Then I noticed a biker >>pulled over a couple of hundred yards up the road, so I drove up to see if >>he needed help. Turned out to be some looney with an ancient black oily >>heap of a bike who'd stopped for a nosey. > >This was Sweller, wasn't it? I love the way you leapt to that conclusion from Platy's words. -- Paul C - "the big camp bastard" (tm d.a.r.s.y) VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS BOD#5, two#4, BOTAFOT#23, BOTAFOF#4, URMSBC#09, COFF#09 Admits to working for London Underground! |
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In article <1185288461.105620.33770@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.c om>,
SaladDodger <Salad.Dodger@gmail.com> writes >On Jul 24, 11:55 am, Des <d...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > >> I genuinely believe you're underestimating things. > >Okay, you've seen who attended Chimay this year. >I won't ask you to name names, but how many of those there do you >seriously >believe would attempt to occasion actual bodily harm upon you? > >I can't think of one. Took the words right out of my mouth. Now go and sterilise your hands. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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Hog wrote:
> (1)Getting your coffee unspilled onto said train required some yet to be > patented technology though. > Getting the bike onto the train, unspilled, was my challenge. That wet shiny entry can be a bit slippy if one has to touch the brakes due to a mildly hasty embarkation. Luckily it slid straight ahead rather than to the side. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:32:46 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Hog wrote: > >> Saw one completely new >> name with a vaguely Panther like sloping single. > >Sarolea? Old Belgian arms company, started building bikes in 1898. If it's >the one I'm thinking of, I've got a picture somewhere. http://www.flickr.com/photos/38219192@N00/887405833/ -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..91198../..24811.../..31928. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 26 Pts:0500 Miles:1739 |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:27:15 +0200, Des <des@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>Hog <hogSPAM@freenetchips.co.uk> wrote: > >Besides .. > >> I'm sure at any UKRM meet-up a direct confrontation would have several of >> us intervening to prevent any real trouble > >I'm _reasonably_ convinced that where I'm concerned, UKRM would have a >''didn't see a thing, officer' moment. > I doubt it, a few might be pushing to the front to take pictures, a few might turn their backs and ignore it but the majority would stop any violence taking place. |
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Higgins wrote:
> Hog wrote: > > (1)Getting your coffee unspilled onto said train required some yet > to be >> patented technology though. >> > Getting the bike onto the train, unspilled, was my challenge. That wet > shiny entry can be a bit slippy if one has to touch the brakes due to > a mildly hasty embarkation. Luckily it slid straight ahead rather > than to the side. In this, as with the episode of the Fruity Tart, the Ural was effortlessly superior. -- platypus "fastidious and precise" |
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kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <%K9pi.2951$By5.1149@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , > monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk (platypus) wrote: > >> Then the black and tans turned up >> to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to >> arrest him - > > Not hard that, they have no enforcement powers, those are still > reserved for the actual police. That is why they are driving cars > labelled "Traffic Officer" and not police cars. So why did they haul me off to Maidstone nick and work me over with truncheons for an hour? -- platypus "fastidious and precise" |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:26:07 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Higgins wrote: >> Hog wrote: >> > (1)Getting your coffee unspilled onto said train required some yet >> to be >>> patented technology though. >>> >> Getting the bike onto the train, unspilled, was my challenge. That wet >> shiny entry can be a bit slippy if one has to touch the brakes due to >> a mildly hasty embarkation. Luckily it slid straight ahead rather >> than to the side. > >In this, as with the episode of the Fruity Tart, the Ural was effortlessly >superior. Are the brake lights working yet? What's a fruity tart, btw? -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..91198../..24811.../..31928. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 26 Pts:0500 Miles:1739 |
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In article <fitpi.3480$By5.2646@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , platypus
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: >> In article <%K9pi.2951$By5.1149@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , >> monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk (platypus) wrote: >> >>> Then the black and tans turned up >>> to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to >>> arrest him - >> >> Not hard that, they have no enforcement powers, those are still >> reserved for the actual police. That is why they are driving cars >> labelled "Traffic Officer" and not police cars. > >So why did they haul me off to Maidstone nick and work me over with >truncheons for an hour? Only an hour? You must be losing your accent. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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SD wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:26:07 GMT, "platypus" > <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> Higgins wrote: >>> Hog wrote: >>> > (1)Getting your coffee unspilled onto said train required some >>> yet to be >>>> patented technology though. >>>> >>> Getting the bike onto the train, unspilled, was my challenge. That >>> wet shiny entry can be a bit slippy if one has to touch the brakes >>> due to a mildly hasty embarkation. Luckily it slid straight ahead >>> rather than to the side. >> >> In this, as with the episode of the Fruity Tart, the Ural was >> effortlessly superior. > > Are the brake lights working yet? It wasn't that they weren't working, they were in fact working fulltime. A hefty boot to the brake pedal fixed its wagon. > What's a fruity tart, btw? Only 'iggins knows... -- platypus "fastidious and precise" |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:27:26 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >It wasn't that they weren't working, they were in fact working fulltime. A >hefty boot to the brake pedal fixed its wagon. Good work, Bond. > >> What's a fruity tart, btw? > >Only 'iggins knows... 'enry 'iggins? -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..91198../..24811.../..31928. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 26 Pts:0500 Miles:1739 |
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Des wrote:
> this is the first time that I've seen people who have > been unable to tell real life from 'cyberspace'. What exactly is "Cyberspace" to you then. See, I just regard usenet as a text based medium, which to all intents and purposes is just like hitting "send to all" on an email. Cyberspace to me seems like a stupidly wooly concept for people who want to pretend the internet is a place, rather than just a jumble of wires and electronic gubbins, linking millions of computers. |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:28:59 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> Then the black and tans turned up >>> to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to >>> arrest him - >> >> Not hard that, they have no enforcement powers, those are still >> reserved for the actual police. That is why they are driving cars >> labelled "Traffic Officer" and not police cars. > >So why did they haul me off to Maidstone nick and work me over with >truncheons for an hour? Cos you smiled that special smile? -- Champ neal at champ dot org dot uk |
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In the referenced article, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> writes:
>On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:28:59 GMT, "platypus" ><monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> Then the black and tans turned up >>>> to chase off the rubbernecker. I managed to convince them not to >>>> arrest him - >>> >>> Not hard that, they have no enforcement powers, those are still >>> reserved for the actual police. That is why they are driving cars >>> labelled "Traffic Officer" and not police cars. >> >>So why did they haul me off to Maidstone nick and work me over with >>truncheons for an hour? > >Cos you smiled that special smile? And whipped out his Astroglide? -- Differenza fra il rivoluzionaro e il cialtrone. Il rivoluzionario rompe l'orologio e invece di presentarsi alle nove si presenta alle nove meno cinque. Il cialtrone rompe l'orologio e si alza alle undici. Home page: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/ |
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In article <rhijn4-lm9.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>, Des wrote:
> to wake up and smell the coffee, as the expression goes. This is _not_ > real life! Des is _not_ a twat in real life (well, less of one, at least)! You still haven't grasped one essential point - it's still communication. And more than that - it's the only way most people on UKRM will every know anything of you. And (human beings being what they are) when they read you being an arse they will naturally jump to the conclusion that you are in fact, an arse. > There is _no_ need to threaten to hit _anyone_, for what they've written in > this (<fx: looks around>) medium. Has anyone threated to hit you? From what I've seen it's just the opposite.. The only one who seems to think you will get hit is you. Phil. -- Phil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' |
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crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> Riding the LE all the way from Zummerzet to Chimay was not on my agenda > and Chimay seems to be the only topic at the moment apart from ocasional > worship of japcrap. You're such a blinkered mong. Chimay was not only an enjoyable real life social motor-cycling event it was watching primarily 40s, 50s, 60s and early 70s racing machinery - that is British and Italian. It has to be said though, the 60s Hondas that were there kept winning. -- Simon |
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In article <xn0f94fach5goc006@news.individual.net>, sweller wrote:
> Phil Launchbury wrote: > >> I give up. I'll put it in small words in the hope it will get through: >> >> Usenet is part of real life. > > The people I met last weekend were real enough and all of them (except my > mate Graham who also came) I met through Usenet. Which was (sort of) the point I was trying to make to Mr. Dense of Paris.. Phil. -- Phil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' |
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SD wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:32:46 GMT, "platypus" > <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hog wrote: >> >>> Saw one completely new >>> name with a vaguely Panther like sloping single. >> >> Sarolea? Old Belgian arms company, started building bikes in 1898. >> If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've got a picture somewhere. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/38219192@N00/887405833/ Twas the very same! -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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In article <rhijn4-lm9.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>, Des
<des@yahoo.fr> writes >Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: >> In article <0ijhn4-fl7.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>, Des wrote: >>> Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: > >> Again we have the dichotomy between 'real life' and 'here'. For the >> majority of people 'here' is the only way that people experience you - >> and hence the only way that they can gain an impression of your >> character. So if you come across as 'rude, arrogant and opinionated' then >> that's what people will treat you as. > >>> We have a problem of communication, I think. > >> Well yes. And largely becuase you don't understand that words matter. >> What you say *does* make people form an opinion and does have an impact >> in the 'real world' - largely becuase it's all part of interpersonal >> communication. > >>> in a manner I'd never dare do in real life, precisely because to me, >>> Usenet _isn't_ real life. > >> Then I'd suggest that Usenet probably is the wrong place for you. > >I've been on Usenet for a long time, and other than on AADP (which with the >notable exception of yours truly and a select few others, is populated by >psychopaths anyway), this is the first time that I've seen people who have >been unable to tell real life from 'cyberspace'. Really. You want to drop into uk.rec.gardening, where I have recently taken up an alternative residence. Just like here it is only with more wimmin and less bad language but in all other respects just the same including a non existent clique. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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> In article <rhijn4-lm9.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>, Des > <des@yahoo.fr> writes >> Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: >>> In article <0ijhn4-fl7.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>, Des >>> wrote: >>>> Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote: >> >>> Again we have the dichotomy between 'real life' and 'here'. For the >>> majority of people 'here' is the only way that people experience >>> you - and hence the only way that they can gain an impression of >>> your character. So if you come across as 'rude, arrogant and >>> opinionated' then that's what people will treat you as. >> >>>> We have a problem of communication, I think. >> >>> Well yes. And largely becuase you don't understand that words >>> matter. What you say *does* make people form an opinion and does >>> have an impact in the 'real world' - largely becuase it's all part >>> of interpersonal communication. >> >>>> in a manner I'd never dare do in real life, precisely because to >>>> me, Usenet _isn't_ real life. >> >>> Then I'd suggest that Usenet probably is the wrong place for you. >> >> I've been on Usenet for a long time, and other than on AADP (which >> with the notable exception of yours truly and a select few others, >> is populated by psychopaths anyway), this is the first time that >> I've seen people who have been unable to tell real life from >> 'cyberspace'. > > Really. You want to drop into uk.rec.gardening, where I have recently > taken up an alternative residence. Just like here it is only with > more wimmin and less bad language but in all other respects just the > same including a non existent clique. Do they meet up for some "cucumber action"? I think people might find Blondie in there too as she is a rather amazing horticultural type. -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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> Then you show a remarkable lack of awareness about how other people > will take your words. Your words about Palestinians, your trite little > phrases about other UKRM posters that you trot out - all designed to > make other people think of you as a clueless troll. A patronising one at that. -- Cab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org UKRM Firefox Extension: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/ukrm.xpi The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ |
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> Phil Launchbury wrote: > >> Then you show a remarkable lack of awareness about how other people >> will take your words. Your words about Palestinians, your trite >> little phrases about other UKRM posters that you trot out - all >> designed to make other people think of you as a clueless troll. > > A patronising one at that. Who is ever so happy because you keep acknowledging his existence! -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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In article <f87vg6$bfu$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Hog
<hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes >steve auvache wrote: >> Really. You want to drop into uk.rec.gardening, where I have recently >> taken up an alternative residence. Just like here it is only with >> more wimmin and less bad language but in all other respects just the >> same including a non existent clique. > >Do they meet up for some "cucumber action"? Hard to say. There is undoubtedly an element of getting together and swapping genetic material but as a newbie I seem unlikely to be getting any invites just yet. Perhaps when they learn of the size mine can grow to this might change. >I think people might find Blondie in there too as she is a rather amazing >horticultural type. I here she likes the challenge of making small things grow so she may be. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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Hog wrote:
> Cab wrote: > > Phil Launchbury wrote: > > > > > Then you show a remarkable lack of awareness about how other > > > people will take your words. Your words about Palestinians, your > > > trite little phrases about other UKRM posters that you trot out - > > > all designed to make other people think of you as a clueless > > > troll. > > > > A patronising one at that. > > Who is ever so happy because you keep acknowledging his existence! Who? Me? -- Cab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org UKRM Firefox Extension: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/ukrm.xpi The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ |
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> I think people might find Blondie in there too as she is a rather > amazing horticultural type. Christ... <fx: rushes off to subscribe> -- Cab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org UKRM Firefox Extension: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/ukrm.xpi The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ |
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> Hog wrote: > >> Cab wrote: >>> Phil Launchbury wrote: >>> >>>> Then you show a remarkable lack of awareness about how other >>>> people will take your words. Your words about Palestinians, your >>>> trite little phrases about other UKRM posters that you trot out - >>>> all designed to make other people think of you as a clueless >>>> troll. >>> >>> A patronising one at that. >> >> Who is ever so happy because you keep acknowledging his existence! > > Who? Me? <slap> stoooopid spic -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 |
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