platypus

Krusty wrote:
> platypus wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you want a turbo get
>>>> the GPZ, the rest are all donkeys.
>>>
>>> What he said.
>>
>> But everybody's got GPzs, it's like a classic clit bike. I have a
>> reputation to uphold, too.
>
> This is true - a GPZ would be far too sensible. What you need is a
> turbo Ural.

Ural once experimented with rotary engines. Now, that would be
interesting...

--
platypus

"enthusiasm and incompetence"

platypus

AW wrote:
> "platypus" wrote:
>
>> But everybody's got GPzs, it's like a classic clit bike. I have a
>> reputation to uphold, too.
>
> Fair point, but it's the only game in town as far as obrut bikes go.

<sulks>

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platypus

"enthusiasm and incompetence"

Krusty

Keith G wrote:

> I actually hooked up this time to ask about a Guzzi V50 exactly like
> this one:
>
> http://www.besko.nl/images2/motoguzziv50b.jpg
>
> that someone I know has in his barn (along with a Black Shadow and
> other stuff) and is trying to flog me

Hmm - wouldn't be in mid Wales by any chance?


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TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 13:00, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:04:06 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
>

>
> >I is currently also considering
> > - 120140142756 (1989 ZXR75)
> > - 200127402830 (1989 FZR750)
> > - 190130835485 (1994 ZXr750)
>
> Of these, I'd be most interested in the first one. It's the first
> generation ZXR, and first versions are usually the most collectable.
> The later models lost some of the rawness, as is often the case.

Agree 100%. I remember blatting around on an H1 (I think) version, in
the late 1980s. Fabulous bike, but a bit single-minded....

>
> The FZR is ok, and technically one of the most ground breaking bikes
> of the 80s (5 valves, canted forward engine, stepped gearbox), but for
> me they just don't do it.

Nor me. Lovely engine, crap brakes, horrible styling on early ones,
crippling seat. The engine was the best bit (and it was/is ground-
breaking).

I'd much, much rather have an earlier GSX-R
> 750 than the Yamaha, if I wanted a mid-80s bike. The ZXR moved the
> game on again for the start of the 90s.


Oddly, the Gixxer never did it for me. I hated the first one I rode,
in 1986. But for the ZXR, with you all the way. And that goes for the
400cc version, too.

Keith G

"Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:5fp5rtF3duirnU1@mid.individual.net...
> Keith G wrote:
>
>> I actually hooked up this time to ask about a Guzzi V50 exactly like
>> this one:
>>
>> http://www.besko.nl/images2/motoguzziv50b.jpg
>>
>> that someone I know has in his barn (along with a Black Shadow and
>> other stuff) and is trying to flog me
>
> Hmm - wouldn't be in mid Wales by any chance?


No, not by a long way - very much closer to home (I'm in Cambs) but I'm
not saying where on this group for obvious 'security' reasons. The
bike's sold (at upwards of 45K but I don't know how much) so may have
moved on now anyway....

Hog

TOG@Toil wrote:
> On 13 Jul, 13:00, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:04:06 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
>>
>
>>
>>> I is currently also considering
>>> - 120140142756 (1989 ZXR75)
>>> - 200127402830 (1989 FZR750)
>>> - 190130835485 (1994 ZXr750)
>>
>> Of these, I'd be most interested in the first one. It's the first
>> generation ZXR, and first versions are usually the most collectable.
>> The later models lost some of the rawness, as is often the case.
>
> Agree 100%. I remember blatting around on an H1 (I think) version, in
> the late 1980s. Fabulous bike, but a bit single-minded....
>
>>
>> The FZR is ok, and technically one of the most ground breaking bikes
>> of the 80s (5 valves, canted forward engine, stepped gearbox), but
>> for me they just don't do it.
>
> Nor me. Lovely engine, crap brakes, horrible styling on early ones,
> crippling seat. The engine was the best bit (and it was/is ground-
> breaking).

Are you saying the 1000EXUP had crap brakes? 'cause it didn't or is this a
reference to the first Genesis

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

Paul - xxx

Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:04:06 +0100, "Paul - xxx"

>> I is currently also considering
>> - 120140142756 (1989 ZXR75)
>> - 200127402830 (1989 FZR750)
>> - 190130835485 (1994 ZXr750)
>
> Of these, I'd be most interested in the first one. It's the first
> generation ZXR, and first versions are usually the most collectable.
> The later models lost some of the rawness, as is often the case.

That's what I thought.

> The FZR is ok, and technically one of the most ground breaking bikes
> of the 80s (5 valves, canted forward engine, stepped gearbox), but for
> me they just don't do it. I'd much, much rather have an earlier GSX-R
> 750 than the Yamaha, if I wanted a mid-80s bike. The ZXR moved the
> game on again for the start of the 90s.

I dunno about GSX's, I know they're a nice bike, but I remember [1]
borrowing my mate's ZXR H1 for a weekend from Doncaster to Brighton and
back, absolutely memorable. I never rode a GSXR so don't have rose-tinted
specs for them..

[1] prolly not the best excuse to buy a bike, but I like 'em. Looks to die
for, IMHO.

--
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TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 14:11, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Are you saying the 1000EXUP had crap brakes? 'cause it didn't or is this a
> reference to the first Genesis
>

Neither. A reference to the first FZ750, which had RD350 power-valve
calipers.

Keith G

"Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> wrote

> Why TF should he? He had mentioned he had the bike coming a couple of
> weeks ago. When I saw him on Saturday, he said 'it's here if you want
> to see it'. I did and said 'how much, 45K he made upwards gestures
> with his hand. That's all - I've no real interest in how much it went
> for.


Make that 'How much - 45K?'

TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 14:50, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:


>If Champ (God, don't
> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)

You don't know what his surname is, do you?

Keith G

<TOG@Toil>; <chateau.murray@btinternet.com>;
<chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1184332277.199388.43980@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
> On 13 Jul, 14:50, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>
>>If Champ (God, don't
>> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)
>
> You don't know what his surname is, do you?
>

Should I?

The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com

Keith G wrote:
><TOG@Toil>; <chateau.murray@btinternet.com>;
><chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>news:1184332277.199388.43980@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>>If Champ (God, don't
>>> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)
>>
>> You don't know what his surname is, do you?
>
>Should I?

<shouts down the hole>

Do you want a new shovel if you keep digging like that?

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TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 15:33, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> <TOG@Toil>; <chateau.mur...@btinternet.com>;<chateau.mur...@bt internet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184332277.199388.43980@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On 13 Jul, 14:50, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> >>If Champ (God, don't
> >> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)
>
> > You don't know what his surname is, do you?
>
> Should I?

No, but if you had one ion of intelligence you could work it out. And
his nick isn't self-aggrandising at all.

TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 15:33, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, I know a bit about used values.
>
> You're a strange old tart aren't you? - Desperate to retain some sort of
> position as the only twat in this group who can use magazines and the
> Net to get an idea of prices? Luckily for you there seem to be a
> constant stream of eager little faces ready to play up to it, but let's
> be honest for a moment shall we? It adds up to SFA at the end of the
> day - a bike makes what it's going to make despite what you or any
> other, self-appointed 'expert' says it will...


Although I do, occasionally, slip up (a certain Triumph Sprint ST
figures in my recent memory), I'm usually pretty accurate. I can beat
Glass's from time to time. In fact, last month, some ukrm bod emailed
me to ask what I thought his bike would fetch on Fleabay.

I didn't get it exactly right, unfortunately. I was £1 out. Ho hum.

The market moves all the time, but it's usually pretty cyclical in
that market patterns repeat themselves every couple of decades, and
for the same reasons. I find it very strange that few other people
manage to work it out.

Keith G

"The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33672@uwe> wrote in
message news:751d182ac93c4@uwe...
> Keith G wrote:
>><TOG@Toil>; <chateau.murray@btinternet.com>;
>><chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>news:1184332277.199388.43980@57g2000hsv.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>>If Champ (God, don't
>>>> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)
>>>
>>> You don't know what his surname is, do you?
>>
>>Should I?
>
> <shouts down the hole>
>
> Do you want a new shovel if you keep digging like that?



I think you need to grow up a bit....

Keith G

> Keith G wrote:
>>>>As to the RX7s, I have owned 2 of them (no pic of the first one)
>>>
>>> And where's the pic of the second one, hm?
>>
>>Huh?
>>
>>I don't have one - that was a long time before digital cameras....
>
> There was no first picture either. Just figured I'll give you a subtle
> hint.
> This is a text newsgroup btw so attaching pictures to the message
> won't work
> very well...


Oh dear. Not the sharpest knife in this little drawer, are you?

Here's the pic (of a pic, like I said - no digital camera, also like I
said):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/RX7.JPG


It's *posted* on my website, dummy - it's not attached to anything...


>
>>> No, you walked right into it. You said that RX-7s were
>>> "electronically
>>> limited to 130mph"
>>
>>Yep, mine was - buzzed at 'max revs' (no kid gloves on bike or cars
>>*ever*, me...) all the way up to an indicated 130 in top.
>
> That's not a rev limiter, that's the gear change signal to stop you
> from
> overrevving the engine.


Yep. Now that you say that I do believe you're right - I seem to
remember now that is just went *fluffy* after the buzzer...


>
>> and that you couldn't spin the wheels from a standing
>>> start.
>>
>>Yep.
>>
>>> Both statements are adamantely
>>
>>??
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamant...ambiguation%29
>
> I refer the honourable gentleman to the first meaning listed.


Wake up, boy - I was querying the *spelling*....

Right, rest snipped (unread) - I really can't be bothered with this
idiot...

TOG@Toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com,

On 13 Jul, 15:33, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> I
> said it didn't look Italian, which it doesn't, and guessed at a home
> mod. So it's Dutch military. It coud be any bloody military spec, as
> there's no such thing as a standard military trim.
>
> Didn't stop you running off at the mouth with *incorrect* information,
> did it? (That's what I mean by *experts*....)
>

Oh dear. Just got to this bit, because your snipping isn't the
greatest and Google's interface is a bit clunky.

So I failed to identify it as Dutch military. Well, stap me vitals,
Cap'n. I suppose that renders the rest of the details I posted as
completely invalid, as well. After all, I've only owned four V50s. Um,
might be five, actually.

<Thinks>

No, four.

<Shakes head>

Well, you carry on being an armchair expert, from your vast experience
of bikes.

Keith G

<TOG@Toil>; <chateau.murray@btinternet.com>;
<chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1184336571.979398.88980@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On 13 Jul, 15:33, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> <TOG@Toil>;
>> <chateau.mur...@btinternet.com>;<chateau.mur...@bt internet.com> wrote
>> in message
>>
>> news:1184332277.199388.43980@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
>>
>> > On 13 Jul, 14:50, "Keith G" <keit...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>If Champ (God, don't
>> >> you just love these self-bestowed *hero* nicknames?)
>>
>> > You don't know what his surname is, do you?
>>
>> Should I?
>
> No, but if you had one ion of intelligence you could work it out. And
> his nick isn't self-aggrandising at all.


No idea. You say 'Champ' to me, I think 'Austin'....

steve auvache

In article <KxGli.22843$p8.15024@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk >, platypus
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Krusty wrote:
>> platypus wrote:
>>
>>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>> AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you want a turbo get
>>>>> the GPZ, the rest are all donkeys.
>>>>
>>>> What he said.
>>>
>>> But everybody's got GPzs, it's like a classic clit bike. I have a
>>> reputation to uphold, too.
>>
>> This is true - a GPZ would be far too sensible. What you need is a
>> turbo Ural.
>
>Ural once experimented with rotary engines. Now, that would be
>interesting...

Gyroscopic Precession?

Maybe it could be used to dampen the effects on yaw of acceleration and
deceleration. Depends how you mount the thing I suppose.



--
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A Bloo one with built in safety features

Timo Geusch

"Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes:

> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...0992&rd=1&rd=1

He's got a *copy* of a Haynes BoL?

FFS, some people are *really* tight.

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Timo Geusch

"Keith G" <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes:

> Wake up, boy - I was querying the *spelling*....

Last defence of the muppet - spelling flame over an extra 'e'. That's a
tad pathetic.

> Right, rest snipped (unread) - I really can't be bothered with this
> idiot...

Interesting how you ensure that everybody who just *may* know a little
about something that you are more ignorant of than you'd like to appear
is labelled an idiot or with another endearing term.

Keep digging, this is getting rather amusing.

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Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT | CB400 Four BOTAFOF #33
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Grimly Curmudgeon

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying
something like:

>I don't see why the internal resistor windings couldn't
>be reconditioned, but I don't know enough about such things to figure
>who/where to do it.
>
><thinks> I bet Grimly does, tho.

Depends on how bespoke the internals of the unit are. An instrument tech
could probably do it in his sleep, having access to the type of bits it
would use, but at what cost is the question.

Is the TPS integral with the throttle grip assembly or is it a seperate
unit down by the end of the cable?

Mark Olson

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

> Is the TPS integral with the throttle grip assembly or is it a seperate
> unit down by the end of the cable?

In all honesty, are you joking?

--
'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

The Older Gentleman

Keith G <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
>
>
> > I can't help thinking that anyone who claims a Honda CD175 handles
> > well
> > is a bit of a fool[1].
>
>
> Not my fault if you couldn't ride yours, is it?

Which one? I've owned about 20. Lovely little bikes, in heir own way,
but one thing they *do not do* is handle. They're small enough to chuck
around, mind.

> >
> > [1] And I haven't forgotten you previously nicked my pic wthout the
> > courtesy of asking.
>
>
> You got it back, didn't you?

Oh, you sent it back? That was nice.

>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ename=STRK%3AM
> EWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330145140992&rd=1&rd=1
>
>
> Let's see how good you are - what's your estimate of what it'll go for?
> (I have my own idea and I *won't* be bidding on it....)
>
> Looks fairly kosher to me -

Really?

OK, the fairing is missing.

The exhaust has been painted black to hide the corrosion: they were
fitted with chrome pipes.

The seat has been iffily re-covered, and cut down - there was a scallop
on the rider's section, but this one has been enlarged, probably by some
real short-arse of an owner.

Indicators are no-standard from who-knows-where.

Paint has flaked badly off the right-hand panel, because of the plastic
problem I mentioned in my previous V50 treatise.

Although it's hard to tell from the pictures, it looks like it's been
repainted in not quite the right colour anyway. The fact that he's got a
load of spare tank decals would back this up.

Again, because of the poor photos, it's hard to tell, but I don't think
the clocks look quite standard.

I'm pretty certain the switchgear has been replaced with Japanese - that
looks very like a Honda cluster on the right-hand bar. Not that this is
necessarily a bad thing, but actually the old Guzzi Lego brick switches
all worked quite well.

I wouldn't worry about the rev counter - almost certainly a snapped
cable, as they never lasted long.

So your "fairly kosher" takes a knock. OTOH, you said you won't be
bidding on it, which is wise.

I can easily see some starry-eyed bod bidding £900 on it: maybe as much
as £1000. If all the things I've pointed out above are correct, then
it's already gone over my top bid. I've owned two of these, and even
from these crappy pix, there's too much suspect on this one for me to be
interested.


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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

The Older Gentleman

The Older Gentleman <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> I can easily see some starry-eyed bod bidding £900 on it: maybe as much
> as £1000. If all the things I've pointed out above are correct, then
> it's already gone over my top bid. I've owned two of these, and even
> from these crappy pix, there's too much suspect on this one for me to be
> interested.

<Bad form post>

So, to conclude, you're asking me what some idiot might pay on a bike
that's a long way from being perfect, on the basis of some poor quality
pix....


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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

Higgins

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> I can easily see some starry-eyed bod bidding £900 on it: maybe as much
>> as £1000. If all the things I've pointed out above are correct, then
>> it's already gone over my top bid. I've owned two of these, and even
>> from these crappy pix, there's too much suspect on this one for me to be
>> interested.
>
> <Bad form post>
>
> So, to conclude, you're asking me what some idiot might pay on a bike
> that's a long way from being perfect, on the basis of some poor quality
> pix....
>
>
<points at ZXR750 bid. Blushes>

Tim

In message <4_idneW5irk2xgrbRVnyiQA@pipex.net>, Keith G
<keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
>
><snip tripe>
>
>
>> First he argues with Champ about Kawa turbos, and now he picks a scrap
>> with you on Mazda rotaries.
>>
>> This is excellent.
>>
>> Hint to KG - everyone on ukrm has some area of expertise, generally
>> recognised as such, and anyone who tries to pick a fight with them in
>> their chosen fields gets tripped up. You wouldn't argue with Lozzo
>> about
>> Yamaha RD twins, for instance. You've managed to select two such
>> recognised experts and tilt at them both, which is amazing going.
>>
>
>
>OK Mumsy, as *High Priestess* of this weird little, self-congratulatory,
>circle-jerk coven, you can have my response - I got a fair bit on today
>and haven't the time or inclination to do multiple replies.
>
>I'm a little bit older than you and been round the block a few times and
>I've learned two things:

You're 87 then and despite learning 2 things seem to have forgotten
about 7,000.

[snip very feeble rant]

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http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

Keith G

"Tim" <tim@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:LcO5Q+IWSImGFwSh@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk...
> In message <99mdncMLbLFoMQrbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
> <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes


>>about it really, but I
>>have just fixed a dodgy valve amp (none too trivial with over a
>>*lethal*
>>400VDC flying about inside it)
>
> 400Vdc is not too bad, try 1500 it's much more fun.


OK then, here yer go:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/1500VDC.JPG

Keith G

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
in message
news:1i18cmf.3gmb5n1xar206N%chateau.murray.takethi sout@dsl.pipex.com...
> Keith G <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> "The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com>
>> wrote
>>
>>
>> > I can't help thinking that anyone who claims a Honda CD175 handles
>> > well
>> > is a bit of a fool[1].
>>
>>
>> Not my fault if you couldn't ride yours, is it?
>
> Which one? I've owned about 20.


???

Couldn't find the filler cap on the first 19...??


Lovely little bikes, in heir own way,
> but one thing they *do not do* is handle. They're small enough to
> chuck
> around, mind.


Exactly - had no trouble chamfering the centre stand (both sides) on
mine. (Back in the 70s I called that 'OK handling'....)


<snip hit and miss assessment>


> I can easily see some starry-eyed bod bidding £900 on it: maybe as
> much
> as £1000. If all the things I've pointed out above are correct, then
> it's already gone over my top bid. I've owned two of these, and even
> from these crappy pix, there's too much suspect on this one for me to
> be
> interested.


Right. I've spoken to the Seller (lovely lady) and she tells me:

Thinks it may have had a handlebar fairing at some stage before she got
it.
Doesn't know about the clocks, thinks they are 'probably original'.
Paintwork *is* original - she bought the decals 'to do something with
it' and never got round to it.
Forgot to ask about the indicators/switches, but if it did have a
fairing...??
Exhausts are almost certainly replacements but are 'factory finished'.
Thinks the handlebars are from (or were for) a Jota.
It had 'new electronic ignition' fitted by the previous owner.
Seat is original. (Is what she said..)

My guess? - High 800s tops, unless someone goes potty which, as you say,
can always happen on eBay on *anything* - unless you are selling, of
course....

My 'kosher' meant 'OK/honest/worthwhile' rather than *100% original* -
which I would expect to see in the description somewhere, if it had been
the case. (Highly unlikely on this sort of bike at the age it is, I
would have thought?)

I've got a very good idea of what she paid for it (and spent on it) and
wouldn't be surprised to see the auction *possibly* ended early (later
today), btw....

Tim

In message <IYWdnYXMjeFMLQXbnZ2dnUVZ8qCqnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
<keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>"Tim" <tim@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:LcO5Q+IWSImGFwSh@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk. ..
>> In message <99mdncMLbLFoMQrbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
>> <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>
>>>about it really, but I
>>>have just fixed a dodgy valve amp (none too trivial with over a
>>>*lethal*
>>>400VDC flying about inside it)
>>
>> 400Vdc is not too bad, try 1500 it's much more fun.
>
>
>OK then, here yer go:
>
>http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/1500VDC.JPG
>
>
Not enough tubes. You want a nice hexagonal array of 64 shaped PM tubes.
They are "fun" to get them all to notional voltage within tolerance.
It's much easier now you can press a button and the computer does all
the work, but I used to have to run the system with the covers off and
tweak each tube individually.
--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

Keith G

"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote


> Move the goalposts how you like: I'm sure it's not a ringer, and I'll
> be
> charitable here and say the owner *believes* the seat is original
> instead of deliberately telliing porkies.


I'll move 'em again: I still think the auction (description, reason for
sale and Seller) is kosher, but from what you and she have said, the
bike's a bit more of a mutt than I thought it was. Not saying it
wouldn't do someone for a 'winter bike' (in July) though....


> Well, all this has proved is that I know a *damn* sight more about
> Guzzi
> Monzas than you do


I should bloody well hope you do - you're a sad, middle-aged geekboy and
(presumably) *hobbyist breaker* who likes to play 'Motorcycle Top
Trumps' for a living and I have ridden one *once* - all of 20 yards, a
week ago today...!!

Go figure...

(Don't worry, Mumsy - I don't see any real challenge to your 'High
Priestess, Spouter Of The Lore' here...)

And (this'll please you and most others here) I also don't see any point
in hanging around in here - it's been a useful week for me (on and off)
and one thing I realise is, truth be told, I don't really want to get
back into spannering shrapnel any more. We'll see this one in, just out
of interest, and then I'll leave you to carry on impressing the
'wide-eyed and wonderstruck' in here - I'm revising my *guess* down to
not much more than a bare 800 (maybe even less, unless she gets really
lucky), btw...

Tim

In message <DbGdna3GDtv-TQXbnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@pipex.net>, Keith G
<keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>
>"The Older Gentleman" <chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
>
>
>> Move the goalposts how you like: I'm sure it's not a ringer, and I'll
>> be
>> charitable here and say the owner *believes* the seat is original
>> instead of deliberately telliing porkies.
>
>
>I'll move 'em again: I still think the auction (description, reason for
>sale and Seller) is kosher, but from what you and she have said, the
>bike's a bit more of a mutt than I thought it was. Not saying it
>wouldn't do someone for a 'winter bike' (in July) though....
>
>
>> Well, all this has proved is that I know a *damn* sight more about
>> Guzzi
>> Monzas than you do
>
>
>I should bloody well hope you do - you're a sad, middle-aged geekboy and
>(presumably) *hobbyist breaker* who likes to play 'Motorcycle Top
>Trumps' for a living and I have ridden one *once* - all of 20 yards, a
>week ago today...!!
>

Oh dear, you are *so* wrong.


--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

The Older Gentleman

Keith G <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> > Insofar as what's written there is more or less correct. It's what's
> > omitted that is the killer.
>
>
> Which you can't possibly find out without an inspection.

Like:

It's missing the fairing.

It's got the wrong headlamp on it.

It's got the wrong indicators on it.

The seat's been butchered

The exhausts should be chrome and aren't.

Might I remind you that I pointed out *all* of those to you, and you
didn't notice any of those as faults. In fact, you even expressed
scepticism that it ought to have a fairing.

Ho hum.

--
BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

The Older Gentleman

Keith G <keith_g@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> > As for "hobbyist" - I've been farting about with bikes for more than
> > 30
> > years. I haven't been without a bike since 1976,