Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I.

Reposted from ni.motorcycles, thanks Tants. Way to go and interesting about
Paisley Jnr.

http://www.inter-bike.co.uk/news.asp

Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in
the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to
ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004. The announcement was embraced by the
motorcyclists and riders groups who have campaigned endlessly for access to
bus lanes since 1996.

The Northern Ireland Motorcycle Action Group welcomed the statement from
Alan Keys of the local Roads Division, which will see bikers granted access
to numerous bus lanes for an experimental period of 18 months. Northern
Ireland Regional MAG Rep, Barry Barr comments, "For a long period of years
MAG has been involved in the campaign to give riders this accessibility and
freedom in our towns and cities. There are over 100,000 motorcyclists in the
province, many of which will benefit from the ability to ride their bikes in
selected bus lanes. We would urge bikers to respect the concession made by
the Roads Division and benefit from it where possible. It is important that
we are not seen to be abusing our new right to ride and as ever ride with
caution and respect to other road users."

Three years ago Ian Paisley Jr's Democratic Unionist Party took on board the
issue of bikers in bus lanes on behalf of riders rights
groups. A keen biker and MAG member Mr Paisley comments, "In power we have
delivered for bikers in Northern Ireland. In the
Department for Regional Development Gregory Campbell and Peter Robinson MP
supported to ensure that motorcycles were at long last given access to bus
lanes. In the Assembly Sammy Wilson and myself have vigorously campaigned
for the interests of Powered Two Wheelers. But there are other issues which
the Motorcycle Action Group is campaigning for which the DUP intends to
deliver on, such as ensuring resources for the continuation of Road Racing
in Ulster and backing inspirational groups such as MAG 100% on the issue of
secure motorcycle parking."

The government's objective is to make the most efficient use of road space
and to encourage other modes of transport, those more
environmentally friendly than the car. The project is however experimental
and the behaviour of motorcyclists and scooter riders
alike will be monitored in bus lanes over the next year and a half. A
decision will then be made to whether or not bus lanes are
made available to bikers on a permanent basis.

NI Rep Barry Barr concludes, "Other major cities in the UK have granted
access to bus lanes for many years such as the successful scheme operated in
Bristol. There are many other pilot projects in operation throughout the UK
and it is up to motorcyclists to react sensibly to ensure that the trial
operations become permanent."

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"'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote in message
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> Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in
> the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to
> ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004. The announcement was embraced by the
> motorcyclists and riders groups who have campaigned endlessly for access to
> bus lanes since 1996.

In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.

However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis
are allowed to use them.

Or maybe they're not allowed and just do anyway.

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"'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote:

>Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in
>the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to
>ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004.

I see they've finally got the "bikes only" bit in the sea-front
car-park in Bangor now.

I remember the DIY one...
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"Andrewr At Work" <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
>makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.
>
>However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis
>are allowed to use them.

don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
badly-drawn-boys use them too?
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"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Andrewr At Work" <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.
> >
> >However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis
> >are allowed to use them.
>
> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
> badly-drawn-boys use them too?

I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what
uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd
doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle.

Helpfully the web-site newcastle.gov.uk doesn't give any information as
to what is and is not allowed to use the lanes either.

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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work"
<andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
>> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.

>> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
>> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
>> badly-drawn-boys use them too?
>
>I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what
>uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd
>doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle.

I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.
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Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work"
> <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes,
>>>> which makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.
>
>>> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
>>> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
>>> badly-drawn-boys use them too?
>>
>> I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on
>> what uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to
>> Westgate Rd doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle.
>
> I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.

Don't download the posts so often you sad sack!
See, I withdrew it and posted it again up there ^^^ within about 10
seconds

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"Champ" <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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> I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.

The Egyptian god who protects women during child-birth.

Not quite sure why he needs his own lane or why it's in NI rather than,
say, Cairo.

Answers on a postcard, please.

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"'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote in message
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> Champ wrote:

<SNIP>

> > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.
>
> Don't download the posts so often you sad sack!

Surely that would be DDtPSOYSS ... that's nothing like BES.

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In article <690h4010kd8vhli3c0sd7m8f3qf4fes9cp@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work"
> <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
> >> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.
>
> >> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
> >> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
> >> badly-drawn-boys use them too?
> >
> >I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what
> >uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd
> >doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle.
>
> I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.

I'll tell you on Monday when you're happier.

Christofire wrote:

> > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.
>
> I'll tell you on Monday when you're happier.

Yes, Please

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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:33:54 -0000, "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote:

>Champ wrote:

>> I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is.
>
>Don't download the posts so often you sad sack!
>See, I withdrew it and posted it again up there ^^^ within about 10
>seconds

It's more complicated than that.

I didn't see your original post, cos you obviously cancelled it in
time.

But AndyR must have seen it, and responded to it, cos his, with the
typo, appears as a new thread 3 minutes after yours.
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darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote

> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which
> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them.
> >
> >However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis
> >are allowed to use them.
>
> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines,
> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and
> badly-drawn-boys use them too?

I believe they banned the dog carts after several instances of dogs being
eaten by natives, if that helps.

--
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bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63

'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
Homer (Simpson).

	#1
'Hog	Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. Reposted from ni.motorcycles, thanks Tants. Way to go and interesting about Paisley Jnr. http://www.inter-bike.co.uk/news.asp Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004. The announcement was embraced by the motorcyclists and riders groups who have campaigned endlessly for access to bus lanes since 1996. The Northern Ireland Motorcycle Action Group welcomed the statement from Alan Keys of the local Roads Division, which will see bikers granted access to numerous bus lanes for an experimental period of 18 months. Northern Ireland Regional MAG Rep, Barry Barr comments, "For a long period of years MAG has been involved in the campaign to give riders this accessibility and freedom in our towns and cities. There are over 100,000 motorcyclists in the province, many of which will benefit from the ability to ride their bikes in selected bus lanes. We would urge bikers to respect the concession made by the Roads Division and benefit from it where possible. It is important that we are not seen to be abusing our new right to ride and as ever ride with caution and respect to other road users." Three years ago Ian Paisley Jr's Democratic Unionist Party took on board the issue of bikers in bus lanes on behalf of riders rights groups. A keen biker and MAG member Mr Paisley comments, "In power we have delivered for bikers in Northern Ireland. In the Department for Regional Development Gregory Campbell and Peter Robinson MP supported to ensure that motorcycles were at long last given access to bus lanes. In the Assembly Sammy Wilson and myself have vigorously campaigned for the interests of Powered Two Wheelers. But there are other issues which the Motorcycle Action Group is campaigning for which the DUP intends to deliver on, such as ensuring resources for the continuation of Road Racing in Ulster and backing inspirational groups such as MAG 100% on the issue of secure motorcycle parking." The government's objective is to make the most efficient use of road space and to encourage other modes of transport, those more environmentally friendly than the car. The project is however experimental and the behaviour of motorcyclists and scooter riders alike will be monitored in bus lanes over the next year and a half. A decision will then be made to whether or not bus lanes are made available to bikers on a permanent basis. NI Rep Barry Barr concludes, "Other major cities in the UK have granted access to bus lanes for many years such as the successful scheme operated in Bristol. There are many other pilot projects in operation throughout the UK and it is up to motorcyclists to react sensibly to ensure that the trial operations become permanent." -- 'Hog

	#2
Andrewr At Work	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote in message news:c29s1v$1qijda$1@ID-105725.news.uni-berlin.de > Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in > the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to > ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004. The announcement was embraced by the > motorcyclists and riders groups who have campaigned endlessly for access to > bus lanes since 1996. In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis are allowed to use them. Or maybe they're not allowed and just do anyway. -- AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#3
darsy	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote: >Motorcyclists across Northern Ireland were jubilant at the announcement in >the press this month that bikers in the province would be legally allowed to >ride in Bus lanes from March 22nd 2004. I see they've finally got the "bikes only" bit in the sea-front car-park in Bangor now. I remember the DIY one... -- d.

	#4
darsy	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. "Andrewr At Work" <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. > >However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis >are allowed to use them. don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and badly-drawn-boys use them too? -- d.

	#5
Andrewr At Work	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message news:vhtg40pcdq96gu2vegsl7vogic3uuusaq0@4ax.com > "Andrewr At Work" <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > > >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which > >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. > > > >However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis > >are allowed to use them. > > don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, > fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and > badly-drawn-boys use them too? I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle. Helpfully the web-site newcastle.gov.uk doesn't give any information as to what is and is not allowed to use the lanes either. -- AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#6
Champ	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work" <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which >> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. >> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, >> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and >> badly-drawn-boys use them too? > >I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what >uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd >doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle. I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is. -- Champ : Old enough to know better GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX-7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0;BotToS#2;BOTAFO(T\|F)#35;UKRMFBC#2;IHABWTMM J#3;MCT#5;WG*#1;BONY#40;DFV#8;IbW#17;SBS#34;BHaLC# 1 Racing : www.team-ukrm.co.uk. Vanity Publishing : www.champ.org.uk

	#7
'Hog	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. Champ wrote: > On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work" > <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, >>>> which makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. > >>> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, >>> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and >>> badly-drawn-boys use them too? >> >> I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on >> what uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to >> Westgate Rd doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle. > > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is. Don't download the posts so often you sad sack! See, I withdrew it and posted it again up there ^^^ within about 10 seconds -- 'Hog

	#8
Andrewr At Work	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. "Champ" <news@champ.org.uk> wrote in message news:690h4010kd8vhli3c0sd7m8f3qf4fes9cp@4ax.com > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is. The Egyptian god who protects women during child-birth. Not quite sure why he needs his own lane or why it's in NI rather than, say, Cairo. Answers on a postcard, please. -- AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, Keeper of the TFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

	#10
Christofire	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. In article <690h4010kd8vhli3c0sd7m8f3qf4fes9cp@4ax.com>, Champ says... > On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC), "Andrewr At Work" > <andrewr@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > > >> >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which > >> >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. > > >> don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, > >> fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and > >> badly-drawn-boys use them too? > > > >I don't go into the centre of Newcastle often enough to comment on what > >uses them ... mainly because to get from where I live to Westgate Rd > >doesn't involve going through the centre of Newcastle. > > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is. I'll tell you on Monday when you're happier.

	#11
sweller	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. Christofire wrote: > > I'm still waiting to find out what a 'Bes' is. > > I'll tell you on Monday when you're happier. Yes, Please -- Simon Brighton \| MYSOB: http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/ England \| MZSOB: http://www.mztech.fsnet.co.uk/

	#13
Nidge	Re: Bikers in Bes Lanes N.I. darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote > >In Newcastle, rather than having bus lanes we have "No car" lanes, which > >makes it pretty obvious that bikers are free to use them. > > > >However, I think they are really "No private car" lanes, because taxis > >are allowed to use them. > > don't lorries, vans, ambulances, steam-engines, traction-engines, > fire-engines, pantechnicons, juggernauts, horse-drawn-carriages and > badly-drawn-boys use them too? I believe they banned the dog carts after several instances of dogs being eaten by natives, if that helps. -- Nidge ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63 'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'. Homer (Simpson).