Bike recommendations, please

Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my
garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't
ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati).

So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point
to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either
the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop).

Which means that I've suddenly got oodles of space, so I guess I can
fill this with one other bike. And that's where the recommendations come
in. Unfortunately the answer is *not* 'Gixxer Thou', as riding anything
remotely sporty like either the VFR (with bar raisers) or the R1150RS
loaner is literally, very painful. In fact, one of the reasons I'm
trying to get the VFR MOT'd tomorrow is that it's slightly less painful
to ride compared to the RS so I'm less likely to arrive at work
impersonating Quasimodo's grumpy, ugly brother.

Right, here are the parameters:

- Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
arms/hands.
- No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
the better.
- Decent fuel range
- Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
- Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
don't mind if the weather protection's worse

Oh, and comedy answers like "a car" will not be counted in the final
votes/recommendations. And comedians like the one GP who suggested that
I simply should stop riding[1] don't need to apply either. Oh, and no
Piaggio Apes either.

I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart
from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations
welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the
worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit.

[1] He got a bit of a earful for that and a *strong* recommendation to
remember that certain things are non-negotiable.
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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

> Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my
> garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't
> ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati).
>
> So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point
> to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either
> the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop).

<snip>

> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
> don't mind if the weather protection's worse

Boring as hell, but reliable and great for commuting.... Divvy 900.
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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
> don't mind if the weather protection's worse

Triumph Tiger.
Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model)
Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
Honda CB900F

>
> Oh, and no
> Piaggio Apes either.

*Sulk*

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SteveH <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote:

> Boring as hell, but reliable and great for commuting.... Divvy 900.

Agree on all counts. Brilliant long-distance commuter, but by Christ
it's dull.

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Timo Geusch wrote:

> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
> don't mind if the weather protection's worse

Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 -
dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them.

Timo Geusch wrote:
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
> don't mind if the weather protection's worse

Fazer thou, a new, modern 150BHP one, that won't break down as often as
your usual dinosaurs.

chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:

> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Right, here are the parameters:
>>
>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
>> arms/hands.
>> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
>> the better.
>> - Decent fuel range
>> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
>> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
>> don't mind if the weather protection's worse
>
> Triumph Tiger.

Maybe worth a sit on.

> Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model)

Hmmm... Probably, but the knee angle does look off for me. May need to
have a sit on one.

> Suzuki 650 V-Strom

Well, that looks better. Not perfect, but better.

> Ducati Monster (preferable 750)

Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".

> Honda CB900F

Hmmm.

In fact, it does look like a lot of older bikes may be more
suited. That, and the dreaded 'C' word.
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AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> writes:

> Timo Geusch wrote:
>
>> Right, here are the parameters:
>>
>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
>> arms/hands.
>> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
>> the better.
>> - Decent fuel range
>> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
>> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
>> don't mind if the weather protection's worse
>
>
> Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 -
> dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them.

Hmm. Mind if I try your Z for size?

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ginge <the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> writes:

> Timo Geusch wrote:
>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
>> arms/hands.
>> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
>> the better.
>> - Decent fuel range
>> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
>> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
>> don't mind if the weather protection's worse
>
> Fazer thou, a new, modern 150BHP one, that won't break down as often as
> your usual dinosaurs.

I would like to point out that I have only had to get *one* bike
recovered so far this year. And last year, the two breakdowns were both
on the VFR.

That said, noted your suggestion.

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In communiqué <82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>
>
>So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point
>to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either
>the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop).
>

Glad to see the Morini is staying.

>I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart
>from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations
>welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the
>worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit.
>

Obvious. A big 'Morini'. No not one of those 87 degree things bearing
the hallowed name and designed by Lambertini.

You want a nice 1000cc 72 degree V twin you do. A Voxan Street Scrambler
with a screen like the one had a go on last December and Whinging
Courier was half thinking about.

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed

I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.

>Right, here are the parameters:
>
>- Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.

Check.

>- No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.

Check.

>- Decent fuel range

Check.

>- Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy

Umm... Compared to many supertankers, certainly.

>- Decent weather protection

Check.

You should buy it.

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In article <821wf9jq6a.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> writes
> That, and the dreaded 'C' word.

Presumably you mean Factory Custom?

They fail two of your criteria: tank range and filtering width.

In all other respects not such a bad idea.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes:

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
> <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed
>
> I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.
>
>>Right, here are the parameters:
>>
>>- Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
>> arms/hands.
>
> Check.
>
>>- No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
>> the better.
>
> Check.
>
>>- Decent fuel range
>
> Check.
>
>>- Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
>
> Umm... Compared to many supertankers, certainly.
>
>>- Decent weather protection
>
> Check.
>
> You should buy it.

Mumble.

You're talking about the Voyager, I assume?

I *guess* I could be tempted. How much, and would you take a VFR in p/x?

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steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> writes:

> In article <821wf9jq6a.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
> <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> writes
>> That, and the dreaded 'C' word.
>
>
> Presumably you mean Factory Custom?

Indeed, oh old one.

> They fail two of your criteria: tank range and filtering width.

Well, depending on which factory, I could stick on an aftermarket tank
and different handlebars. I should've clarified the requirement as 'not
much wider than the K' as that filters reasonably well, as opposed to,
say, a GS Adventure.

> In all other respects not such a bad idea.

's kind of what I thought.

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Timo Geusch wrote:

> > Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 -
> > dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them.
>
> Hmm. Mind if I try your Z for size?

Norra prob. It's not the narrowest bike ever, but it's not so bulky
as to be impossible through traffic. Weather protection isn't great
either, but it's as good as it gets in the class. Good seating
position - upright but slightly over the bars. Fuel range about 140
full-fumes in mixed use on the evidence so far, 13 quids worth to fill
the tank.

Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
<AQKP3Wci1pmGJALe@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
><tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed
>>Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes:
>>> I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.
>>
>>You're talking about the Voyager, I assume?
>
>I am.

You're making space for the Bonneville then?

Good, good.
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
deadmail@burnt.org.uk typed
> Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
><AQKP3Wci1pmGJALe@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
>><tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed
>>>Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes:
>>>> I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.
>>>
>>>You're talking about the Voyager, I assume?
>>
>>I am.
>
>You're making space for the Bonneville then?

Heh no. That looks like it's going to fall through. Apparently the
bloke's son has woken up, seen an heirloom about to leave, and decided
he wants it.

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ginge wrote:

> Fazer thou, a new, modern 150BHP one, that won't break down as often as
> your usual dinosaurs.

That was my other choice - more powerful and probably better than the
Z1000 but a lot pricier in the slightly second hand stakes. And the
06 version has fuelling glitches.

On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>
> > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Right, here are the parameters:

> > Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
>
> Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
> station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".

Multistrada?

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:57:27 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
><tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed
>
>I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.
>
>You should buy it.

You a baaad man, dood.
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In article <1184540342.175404.147730@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
GungaDan <dan.edge1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
> >
> > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
> >
> > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
> > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".
>
> Multistrada?

Welcome to the new german italian alliance,

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On 16 Jul, 00:23, muddy cat <muddyDOT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <1184540342.175404.147...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
>
> GungaDan <dan.ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>
> > > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > >> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> > > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
>
> > > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
> > > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".
>
> > Multistrada?
>
> Welcome to the new german italian alliance,

I think it's known as an axis...

Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
<lAcGTje79pmGJAOj@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
>deadmail@burnt.org.uk typed
>> Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
>><AQKP3Wci1pmGJALe@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:
>>
>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch
>>><tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed
>>>>Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes:
>>>>> I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile.
>>>>
>>>>You're talking about the Voyager, I assume?
>>>
>>>I am.
>>
>>You're making space for the Bonneville then?
>
>Heh no. That looks like it's going to fall through. Apparently the
>bloke's son has woken up, seen an heirloom about to leave, and decided
>he wants it.

Bummer. But since you've already broached the subject...

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In article <1184542973.273877.157570@n2g2000hse.googlegroups. com>,
GungaDan <dan.edge1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16 Jul, 00:23, muddy cat <muddyDOT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <1184540342.175404.147...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> > GungaDan <dan.ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
> >
> > > > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> Right, here are the parameters:
> >
> > > > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
> >
> > > > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
> > > > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".
> >
> > > Multistrada?
> >
> > Welcome to the new german italian alliance,
>
> I think it's known as an axis...

Of doom, eh?

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On 16 Jul, 01:09, muddy cat <muddyDOT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <1184542973.273877.157...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups. com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> GungaDan <dan.ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 16 Jul, 00:23, muddy cat <muddyDOT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <1184540342.175404.147...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
>
> > > GungaDan <dan.ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes:
>
> > > > > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> > > > > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
>
> > > > > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT
> > > > > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty".
>
> > > > Multistrada?
>
> > > Welcome to the new german italian alliance,
>
> > I think it's known as an axis...
>
> Of doom, eh?

Of evil!

Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

> > Honda CB900F
>
> Hmmm.
>
> In fact, it does look like a lot of older bikes may be more
> suited. That, and the dreaded 'C' word.

I meant the modern one, actually.

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:45:21 -0700, AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 -
>dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them.

Exactly what I was going to suggest. And the 750 version is available
for buttons nowadays.
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"Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in message
news:82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com...
>
> Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my
> garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't
> ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati).
>
> So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point
> to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either
> the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop).
>
> Which means that I've suddenly got oodles of space, so I guess I can
> fill this with one other bike. And that's where the recommendations come
> in. Unfortunately the answer is *not* 'Gixxer Thou', as riding anything
> remotely sporty like either the VFR (with bar raisers) or the R1150RS
> loaner is literally, very painful. In fact, one of the reasons I'm
> trying to get the VFR MOT'd tomorrow is that it's slightly less painful
> to ride compared to the RS so I'm less likely to arrive at work
> impersonating Quasimodo's grumpy, ugly brother.
>
> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I
> don't mind if the weather protection's worse
>
> Oh, and comedy answers like "a car" will not be counted in the final
> votes/recommendations. And comedians like the one GP who suggested that
> I simply should stop riding[1] don't need to apply either. Oh, and no
> Piaggio Apes either.
>
> I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart
> from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations
> welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the
> worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit.

OK I'll say it. Harley Sportster with a bigger tank. [1]

[1]They are quite awful.

--
Molly
Carlsberg don't do motorcycles BUT if they did it would be a Kawasaki
www.MollyG.net www.smartmotorcycles.co.uk/
ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F, GSXR750..
GHPOTHUF#27 TGF, UKRMFBC#7, BOTAFOF#11, YTC#9, GYASB#1. SbS#23.
DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply
http://www.Sportsbike.org

In article <82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch wrote:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my
> arms/hands.

Tiger..

> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees,
> the better.

Tiger..

> - Decent fuel range

Tiger..

> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy

Ti.. Oh. Ah. Maybe not. Narrow the Tiger ain't.

Phil.

--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

Timo Geusch wrote:
>
> Right, here are the parameters:
>
> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on
> my arms/hands.
> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy
> knees, the better.
> - Decent fuel range
> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so
> I don't mind if the weather protection's worse

There is only one real answer, although you'll have to put up with howls of
derision from this lot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/.../emfdeau09.xml

http://www.kevinboone.com/mc-deauville.html

http://www.mc.honda-eu.com/uk/en/mc/...troduction.jsp

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/deau...0QQsa catZ422

--
platypus

"enthusiasm and incompetence"

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Right, here are the parameters:
>>
>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on
>> my arms/hands.
>> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy
>> knees, the better.
>> - Decent fuel range
>> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy
>> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K
>> so I don't mind if the weather protection's worse
>
> Triumph Tiger.
> Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model)
> Suzuki 650 V-Strom
> Ducati Monster (preferable 750)
> Honda CB900F
>
>>
>> Oh, and no
>> Piaggio Apes either.
>
> *Sulk*

I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S. It meets all your
criteria and looks/goes/stops/handles better than any of the above.
The 6th gear overdrive is a boon on M-way work.
www.photobox.co.uk/album/5274048

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:55 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:

>>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on

>I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S.

In what way does an ST4 have an "upright seating position", you
mono-maniac?

--
Champ
I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:55 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on
>
>> I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S.
>
> In what way does an ST4 have an "upright seating position", you
> mono-maniac?

In a "really short Italian with really long arms" way?

--
Mike H
Fiat Punto (Oh, the shame)

MikeH wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:55 +0100, "Hog"
>> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight
>>>>> on
>>
>>> I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S.
>>
>> In what way does an ST4 have an "upright seating position", you
>> mono-maniac?
>
> In a "really short Italian with really long arms&q

	#1
Timo Geusch	Bike recommendations, please Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati). So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop). Which means that I've suddenly got oodles of space, so I guess I can fill this with one other bike. And that's where the recommendations come in. Unfortunately the answer is not 'Gixxer Thou', as riding anything remotely sporty like either the VFR (with bar raisers) or the R1150RS loaner is literally, very painful. In fact, one of the reasons I'm trying to get the VFR MOT'd tomorrow is that it's slightly less painful to ride compared to the RS so I'm less likely to arrive at work impersonating Quasimodo's grumpy, ugly brother. Right, here are the parameters: - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my arms/hands. - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, the better. - Decent fuel range - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I don't mind if the weather protection's worse Oh, and comedy answers like "a car" will not be counted in the final votes/recommendations. And comedians like the one GP who suggested that I simply should stop riding[1] don't need to apply either. Oh, and no Piaggio Apes either. I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit. [1] He got a bit of a earful for that and a strong recommendation to remember that certain things are non-negotiable. -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD \| VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT \| CB400/4 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#2
SteveH	Re: Bike recommendations, please Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my > garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't > ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati). > > So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point > to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either > the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop). <snip> > Right, here are the parameters: > > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. > - Decent fuel range > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I > don't mind if the weather protection's worse Boring as hell, but reliable and great for commuting.... Divvy 900. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

	#3
The Older Gentleman	Re: Bike recommendations, please Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > Right, here are the parameters: > > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. > - Decent fuel range > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I > don't mind if the weather protection's worse Triumph Tiger. Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model) Suzuki 650 V-Strom Ducati Monster (preferable 750) Honda CB900F > > Oh, and no > Piaggio Apes either. Sulk -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

	#4
The Older Gentleman	Re: Bike recommendations, please SteveH <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote: > Boring as hell, but reliable and great for commuting.... Divvy 900. Agree on all counts. Brilliant long-distance commuter, but by Christ it's dull. -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

	#6
ginge	Re: Bike recommendations, please Timo Geusch wrote: > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. > - Decent fuel range > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I > don't mind if the weather protection's worse Fazer thou, a new, modern 150BHP one, that won't break down as often as your usual dinosaurs.

	#7
Timo Geusch	Re: Bike recommendations, please chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes: > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > >> Right, here are the parameters: >> >> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my >> arms/hands. >> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, >> the better. >> - Decent fuel range >> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy >> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I >> don't mind if the weather protection's worse > > Triumph Tiger. Maybe worth a sit on. > Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model) Hmmm... Probably, but the knee angle does look off for me. May need to have a sit on one. > Suzuki 650 V-Strom Well, that looks better. Not perfect, but better. > Ducati Monster (preferable 750) Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty". > Honda CB900F Hmmm. In fact, it does look like a lot of older bikes may be more suited. That, and the dreaded 'C' word. -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD \| VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT \| CB400/4 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#8
Timo Geusch	Re: Bike recommendations, please AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> writes: > Timo Geusch wrote: > >> Right, here are the parameters: >> >> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my >> arms/hands. >> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, >> the better. >> - Decent fuel range >> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy >> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I >> don't mind if the weather protection's worse > > > Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 - > dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them. Hmm. Mind if I try your Z for size? -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD \| VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT \| CB400/4 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#9
Timo Geusch	Re: Bike recommendations, please ginge <the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> writes: > Timo Geusch wrote: >> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my >> arms/hands. >> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, >> the better. >> - Decent fuel range >> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy >> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I >> don't mind if the weather protection's worse > > Fazer thou, a new, modern 150BHP one, that won't break down as often as > your usual dinosaurs. I would like to point out that I have only had to get one bike recovered so far this year. And last year, the two breakdowns were both on the VFR. That said, noted your suggestion. -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD \| VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT \| CB400/4 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#10
Pete Fisher	Re: Bike recommendations, please In communiqué <82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom > > >So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point >to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either >the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop). > Glad to see the Morini is staying. >I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart >from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations >welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the >worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit. > Obvious. A big 'Morini'. No not one of those 87 degree things bearing the hallowed name and designed by Lambertini. You want a nice 1000cc 72 degree V twin you do. A Voxan Street Scrambler with a screen like the one had a go on last December and Whinging Courier was half thinking about. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ \| Pete Fisher at Home: Peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk \| \| Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest Yamaha WR250Z \| \| Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 \| +-------------------------------------------------------------+

	#11
Wicked Uncle Nigel	Re: Bike recommendations, please Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile. >Right, here are the parameters: > >- Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. Check. >- No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. Check. >- Decent fuel range Check. >- Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy Umm... Compared to many supertankers, certainly. >- Decent weather protection Check. You should buy it. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big" Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando

	#12
steve auvache	Re: Bike recommendations, please In article <821wf9jq6a.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> writes > That, and the dreaded 'C' word. Presumably you mean Factory Custom? They fail two of your criteria: tank range and filtering width. In all other respects not such a bad idea. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features

	#13
Timo Geusch	Re: Bike recommendations, please Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes: > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch > <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed > > I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile. > >>Right, here are the parameters: >> >>- Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my >> arms/hands. > > Check. > >>- No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, >> the better. > > Check. > >>- Decent fuel range > > Check. > >>- Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > > Umm... Compared to many supertankers, certainly. > >>- Decent weather protection > > Check. > > You should buy it. Mumble. You're talking about the Voyager, I assume? I guess I could be tempted. How much, and would you take a VFR in p/x? -- Morini Corsaro 125 \| CB450K4 \| XL250 Motosport x2 \| 900SSD \| VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop \| K1100LT \| CB400/4 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

	#16
deadmail@burnt.org.uk	Re: Bike recommendations, please Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message <AQKP3Wci1pmGJALe@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>: >Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch ><tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> typed >>Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> writes: >>> I'm thinking of flogging the BlingMobile. >> >>You're talking about the Voyager, I assume? > >I am. You're making space for the Bonneville then? Good, good. -- K75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. I know I aint doing much, doing nothing means a lot to me.

	#19
GungaDan	Re: Bike recommendations, please On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes: > > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > > >> Right, here are the parameters: > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750) > > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty". Multistrada?

	#21
muddy cat	Re: Bike recommendations, please In article <1184540342.175404.147730@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>, GungaDan <dan.edge1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15 Jul, 22:46, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> > wrote: > > chateau.murray.takethis...@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes: > > > > > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > > > > >> Right, here are the parameters: > > > > Ducati Monster (preferable 750) > > > > Fuggedaboutit. I look at them every time I have a bike MOT'd (only MOT > > station in town is the local Ducati dealer) and it's too "sporty". > > Multistrada? Welcome to the new german italian alliance, -- Mike DL1000 Black with extra black bits. UKRMMA#22 Skype: mikebothe I must belong somewhere

	#27
Champ	Re: Bike recommendations, please On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:45:21 -0700, AW <andrew_wegg@hotmail.com> wrote: >Sounds like my recent thoughts and actions. My answer was the Z1000 - >dunno if that fits all the parameters but certainly a few of them. Exactly what I was going to suggest. And the 750 version is available for buttons nowadays. -- Champ I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R \| GPz750turbo \| GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk

	#28
Molly	Re: Bike recommendations, please "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in message news:82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com... > > Right, after a lot of soul searching I've decided that I'll rid my > garage both of bikes I don't really want to keep and of bikes I can't > ride anyway (with the exception of the Ducati). > > So the plan is to reduce the number of bikes from its current high point > to something like four bikes (the Morini, the Duc, the BMW, and either > the chop or the CB450 - most likely the chop). > > Which means that I've suddenly got oodles of space, so I guess I can > fill this with one other bike. And that's where the recommendations come > in. Unfortunately the answer is not 'Gixxer Thou', as riding anything > remotely sporty like either the VFR (with bar raisers) or the R1150RS > loaner is literally, very painful. In fact, one of the reasons I'm > trying to get the VFR MOT'd tomorrow is that it's slightly less painful > to ride compared to the RS so I'm less likely to arrive at work > impersonating Quasimodo's grumpy, ugly brother. > > Right, here are the parameters: > > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. > - Decent fuel range > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so I > don't mind if the weather protection's worse > > Oh, and comedy answers like "a car" will not be counted in the final > votes/recommendations. And comedians like the one GP who suggested that > I simply should stop riding[1] don't need to apply either. Oh, and no > Piaggio Apes either. > > I do have a couple of ideas but none that I dare utter in UKRM (apart > from, well, a Drifter). So, any suggestions/recommendations > welcome. Budget isn't that much of a concern, if worse comes to the > worst my credit rating should be able to take the hit. OK I'll say it. Harley Sportster with a bigger tank. [1] [1]They are quite awful. -- Molly Carlsberg don't do motorcycles BUT if they did it would be a Kawasaki www.MollyG.net www.smartmotorcycles.co.uk/ ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F, GSXR750.. GHPOTHUF#27 TGF, UKRMFBC#7, BOTAFOF#11, YTC#9, GYASB#1. SbS#23. DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply http://www.Sportsbike.org

	#29
Phil Launchbury	Re: Bike recommendations, please In article <82ejj9jr1y.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch wrote: > > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on my > arms/hands. Tiger.. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy knees, > the better. Tiger.. > - Decent fuel range Tiger.. > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy Ti.. Oh. Ah. Maybe not. Narrow the Tiger ain't. Phil. -- Phil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms'

	#30
platypus	Re: Bike recommendations, please Timo Geusch wrote: > > Right, here are the parameters: > > - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on > my arms/hands. > - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy > knees, the better. > - Decent fuel range > - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy > - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K so > I don't mind if the weather protection's worse There is only one real answer, although you'll have to put up with howls of derision from this lot. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/.../emfdeau09.xml http://www.kevinboone.com/mc-deauville.html http://www.mc.honda-eu.com/uk/en/mc/...troduction.jsp http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/deau...0QQsa catZ422 -- platypus "enthusiasm and incompetence"

	#31
Hog	Re: Bike recommendations, please The Older Gentleman wrote: > Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > >> Right, here are the parameters: >> >> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on >> my arms/hands. >> - No sporty knee angles either - the less I have to bend my iffy >> knees, the better. >> - Decent fuel range >> - Fairly narrow so it filters reasonably easy >> - Decent weather protection, although it'd be teamed up with the K >> so I don't mind if the weather protection's worse > > Triumph Tiger. > Suzuki 650 Bandit (new FI model) > Suzuki 650 V-Strom > Ducati Monster (preferable 750) > Honda CB900F > >> >> Oh, and no >> Piaggio Apes either. > > Sulk I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S. It meets all your criteria and looks/goes/stops/handles better than any of the above. The 6th gear overdrive is a boon on M-way work. www.photobox.co.uk/album/5274048 -- Hog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400

	#33
MikeH	Re: Bike recommendations, please Champ wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:55 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> > wrote: > >>> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> - Fairly upright seating position so I don't have a lot of weight on > >> I know I know, my record is getting stuck. Ducati ST4S. > > In what way does an ST4 have an "upright seating position", you > mono-maniac? In a "really short Italian with really long arms" way? -- Mike H Fiat Punto (Oh, the shame)