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Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope
hasn't been asked too many times before. A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a total of about 9 points, which is bad enough, but he's also had his licence less than two years so he will lose it and have to retake the test. Also, for various reasons he cannot do his work without his bike (busses etc won't get him there or even close). Now I know that he was riding irresponsably etc etc and probably deserves to lose it, so please spare the flame (i've spared you by not making the excuses about it being a wide open stretch of road etc). What I want to know is, is there anything he can say or do in court to mitigate the points/ban/fine? Thanks in advance Will |
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In news:klabc.11535$Id.7756@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk,
William <Ask@me.com> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a > total of about 9 points, which is bad enough, but he's also had his > licence less than two years so he will lose it and have to retake the > test. Also, for various reasons he cannot do his work without his > bike (busses etc won't get him there or even close). Now I know that > he was riding irresponsably etc etc and probably deserves to lose it, > so please spare the flame (i've spared you by not making the excuses > about it being a wide open stretch of road etc). What I want to know > is, is there anything he can say or do in court to mitigate the > points/ban/fine? > What are the details of the offences (speed limit / speed alleged etc) ? -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY) |
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William wrote:
> Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a total of > about 9 points, 9? how does that work then? > there or even close). Now I know that he was riding irresponsably etc etc was he? or was he speeding? is there a difference? > What I want to know is, is there anything he can say or do in court to > mitigate the points/ban/fine? what sort of road, what speed limit posted, how fast, what time of day, what weather conditions...? etc etc etc Depending on the above my guess is that he needs to get a brief, who can make the claim of "needs bike for business" for him whilst he stands looking very sorrowful. He might get less points but the fine will go up proportionately. -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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The speed limit was 30. He got 3 points one way at an alleged speed of 38
mph. The other way (which was the court summons) he was alleged to be doing 54mph (yes I know that's fast) and has been told to expect 6 points. The road is urban, but wide with little traffic and good vis. "Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c4jbop$2i361l$1@ID-190837.news.uni-berlin.de... > In news:klabc.11535$Id.7756@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk, > William <Ask@me.com> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > > Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a > > total of about 9 points, which is bad enough, but he's also had his > > licence less than two years so he will lose it and have to retake the > > test. Also, for various reasons he cannot do his work without his > > bike (busses etc won't get him there or even close). Now I know that > > he was riding irresponsably etc etc and probably deserves to lose it, > > so please spare the flame (i've spared you by not making the excuses > > about it being a wide open stretch of road etc). What I want to know > > is, is there anything he can say or do in court to mitigate the > > points/ban/fine? > > > > What are the details of the offences (speed limit / speed alleged etc) ? > > -- > Steve Parry > > http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk > > K100RS SE > F650 > (not forgetting the SK90PY) > > |
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"William" <Ask@me.com> wrote in message news:MGabc.11581$Id.9591@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... > The speed limit was 30. He got 3 points one way at an alleged speed of 38 > mph. The other way (which was the court summons) he was alleged to be doing > 54mph (yes I know that's fast) and has been told to expect 6 points. The > road is urban, but wide with little traffic and good vis. How did you ^W he manage to miss a camera van /twice/in a 30 limit? |
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William wrote:
> The speed limit was 30. He got 3 points one way at an alleged speed of 38 > mph. mobile camera? gatso? was he pulled over by a plod? > The other way (which was the court summons) he was alleged to be doing > 54mph (yes I know that's fast) and has been told to expect 6 points. mobile camera? gatso? was he pulled over by a plod? who has told him to expect 6 points? > The > road is urban, but wide with little traffic and good vis. then a good brief might be able to help him out. -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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No idea, but I guess it was sneaky and he wasn't looking out for it.
"dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message news:c4jd6k$2iagmu$1@ID-114060.news.uni-berlin.de... > > "William" <Ask@me.com> wrote in message > news:MGabc.11581$Id.9591@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... > > The speed limit was 30. He got 3 points one way at an alleged speed of 38 > > mph. The other way (which was the court summons) he was alleged to be > doing > > 54mph (yes I know that's fast) and has been told to expect 6 points. The > > road is urban, but wide with little traffic and good vis. > > How did you ^W he manage to miss a camera van /twice/in a 30 limit? > > > |
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It think it was a camera in a van so he wasn't pulled over. I don't know who
told him to expect 6 points. "Doesnotcompute" <dncDELETETHIS@ukbodyart.org> wrote in message news:c4jd9t$2iu3r7$1@ID-30778.news.uni-berlin.de... > William wrote: > > > The speed limit was 30. He got 3 points one way at an alleged speed of 38 > > mph. > > mobile camera? gatso? was he pulled over by a plod? > > > The other way (which was the court summons) he was alleged to be doing > > 54mph (yes I know that's fast) and has been told to expect 6 points. > > mobile camera? gatso? was he pulled over by a plod? > who has told him to expect 6 points? > > > The > > road is urban, but wide with little traffic and good vis. > > then a good brief might be able to help him out. > > > -- > Dnc > VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | > MIB#pending | two#54 | > Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk > |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, William
<Ask@me.com> typed >It think it was a camera in a van so he wasn't pulled over. I don't know who >told him to expect 6 points. Do have a look at the faq at www.ukrm.net old chap. Pay particular attention to the bit about not top posting (put your replies *after* the post you're responding to) and removing .sigs (the bit after the "-- "). Otherwise we'll have to make you resit your UKRM posting test. -- Nigel - No longer worse than Platypus WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 |
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William wrote:
> It think it was a camera in a van so he wasn't pulled over. I don't know who > told him to expect 6 points. it'll be interesting to see if the plod have pictures or not. A colleage of mine got caught by a mobile van, and they had a picture of the front end of the bike. Mr Plod noted the registration down as colleague rode passed. Case was dropped as soon as colleague started to argue it. Whether that's a general rule or he was a jammy git, is unknown. Oh - and we place our responses at the bottom round here - okay? -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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"Nigel Eaton" <nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:I4Yy9wUKpTbAJwo5@rcav8r.demon.co.uk... > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, William > <Ask@me.com> typed > >It think it was a camera in a van so he wasn't pulled over. I don't know who > >told him to expect 6 points. > > Do have a look at the faq at www.ukrm.net old chap. Pay particular > attention to the bit about not top posting (put your replies *after* the > post you're responding to) and removing .sigs (the bit after the "-- "). > > Otherwise we'll have to make you resit your UKRM posting test. Ok, thanks for that. I actually thought top posting was something else. The shame! |
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"William" <Ask@me.com> wrote in message news:Q8bbc.11687$Id.6688@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... > > "Nigel Eaton" <nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:I4Yy9wUKpTbAJwo5@rcav8r.demon.co.uk... > > Otherwise we'll have to make you resit your UKRM posting test. > > Ok, thanks for that. I actually thought top posting was something else. The > shame! > <smirk> Tommy |
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Doesnotcompute <dncDELETETHIS@ukbodyart.org> somehow managed to post:
>William wrote: > >> It think it was a camera in a van so he wasn't pulled over. I don't know who >> told him to expect 6 points. > >it'll be interesting to see if the plod have pictures or not. >A colleage of mine got caught by a mobile van, and they had a picture of >the front end of the bike. Mr Plod noted the registration down as >colleague rode passed. > >Case was dropped as soon as colleague started to argue it. Whether >that's a general rule or he was a jammy git, is unknown. I think they've plugged that loophole recently. A speed reading together with an officer's evidence of the reg. plate is enough for a conviction. -- HooDooWitch "Season to taste." |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:21:43 +0100, "William" <Ask@me.com> wrote:
>"Nigel Eaton" <nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> Do have a look at the faq at www.ukrm.net old chap. Pay particular >> attention to the bit about not top posting (put your replies *after* the >> post you're responding to) and removing .sigs (the bit after the "-- "). >> >> Otherwise we'll have to make you resit your UKRM posting test. > >Ok, thanks for that. I actually thought top posting was something else. The >shame! Sweet ;-) -- Pip, Hairy Gfedcker. RF 900RR, Ruff and Rattly. WS* DFWAG#0 IbW#27* DIAABTCOD#15 GP#0 EKP FUB#4 MKA+E#3 ANORAK#8 MIRTTH#15 BOTAFOT/F#47/34a BONY#13 KotMIB# <space> UKRMRM#14 TWA#2 |
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he's gonna learn the hard way
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> he's gonna learn the hard way
Who, and who said that? |
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steve robinson wrote:
> he's gonna learn the hard way who is? are you? -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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"Doesnotcompute" <dncDELETETHIS@ukbodyart.org> wrote in message news:c4jph5$2ierpe$1@ID-30778.news.uni-berlin.de... > steve robinson wrote: > > > he's gonna learn the hard way > > > who is? are you? > > -- > I post here occasionally lurked a lot more and got my nuts chewed for not knowing group etiquette several weeks ago deservedly so Steve |
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steve robinson wrote:
> "Doesnotcompute" <dncDELETETHIS@ukbodyart.org> wrote in message > news:c4jph5$2ierpe$1@ID-30778.news.uni-berlin.de... > >>steve robinson wrote: >> >> >>> he's gonna learn the hard way >> >> >>who is? are you? >> >>-- >> I post here occasionally lurked a lot more and got my nuts chewed for > > not knowing group etiquette > several weeks ago deservedly so > > Steve evidence left unsnipped. but you're not /quite/ there yet are you? -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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steve robinson wrote:
> "Doesnotcompute" wrote > >>steve robinson wrote: >> >>> he's gonna learn the hard way >> >>who is? are you? >> >>-- >> I post here occasionally lurked a lot more and got my nuts chewed for > > not knowing group etiquette > several weeks ago deservedly so Okay, to get a full pass, try adding the following to your skills: Snip the original post by all means, but leave some of it to give your reply some context. snip the sigs of the previous post: the '--' and all that follows. Make sure you begin your typing on a new line, so it isn't preceeded by a '>'. HTH -- John SV650 Black it is and naked |
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> but you're not /quite/ there yet are you?
> > not quite but teacher said I am improving slowly have a fast week end Steve |
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steve robinson wrote:
________________________________ ** >>but you're not /quite/ there yet are you? >> >> > > not quite but teacher said I am improving slowly > > have a fast week end ** > Steve > ________________________________ better. I've marked with asterisks (**) where you went wrong. -- Dnc VS800 (b0rked) | Bandit 12 | MIB#pending | two#54 | Nepotistic advertising: http://www.annalaurie.co.uk |
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"William" <Ask@me.com> wrote in message news:klabc.11535$Id.7756@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... > Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a total of > about 9 points, which is bad enough, but he's also had his licence less than > two years so he will lose it and have to retake the test. Also, for various > reasons he cannot do his work without his bike (busses etc won't get him > there or even close). Now I know that he was riding irresponsably etc etc > and probably deserves to lose it, so please spare the flame (i've spared you > by not making the excuses about it being a wide open stretch of road etc). > What I want to know is, is there anything he can say or do in court to > mitigate the points/ban/fine? If all else seems likely to fail, begging forgiveness whilst sobbing may do the trick. I would also recommend selling the bike to his wife/partner or trusted friend for a nominal sum just before the court appearance so that he can say without perjuring himself that he has sold the bike and has not replaced it. It needs to be sold to someone who he can REALLY trust so that he can buy it back again for the same price immediately after the court appearance. Tony |
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, TMack
<REMOVETHECAPStonymackin@bigfoot.com> typed > >"William" <Ask@me.com> wrote in message >news:klabc.11535$Id.7756@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk... >>is there anything he can say or do in court to >> mitigate the points/ban/fine? > >If all else seems likely to fail, begging forgiveness whilst sobbing may do >the trick. I would also recommend selling the bike to his wife/partner or >trusted friend for a nominal sum just before the court appearance so that he >can say without perjuring himself that he has sold the bike and has not >replaced it. It needs to be sold to someone who he can REALLY trust so that >he can buy it back again for the same price immediately after the court >appearance. "Sold the bike, eh? Not replaced it? Clearly doesn't need a licence then. Ban and retest. NEXT!" -- Nigel - No longer worse than Platypus WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 |
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William wrote:
> > Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. If "your friend" didn't slow down to below the speed limit between the two incidents, then it was one offence rather than two. Can you sweet-talk a magistrate? -- Roger. ps. This advice is worth what you paid for it. |
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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "William" <Ask@me.com> saying something like: >A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught >speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a total of >about 9 points, <snip> >What I want to know is, is there anything he can say or do in court to >mitigate the points/ban/fine? Look sorry, bend over, and grease up. -- Dave GS 850 x2 / SE 6a SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3 FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10 |
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Doesnotcompute posted:
> William wrote: > > > Hello everyone, I have a question about speeding tickets, which I hope > > hasn't been asked too many times before. > > > > A friend of mine with a previously clean license has just been caught > > speeding twice in the same day at the same place. He's looking at a total of > > about 9 points, > > 9? how does that work then? For the first two years of your licence you only have 6 points to play with. That's how it was when I was on the 33bhp licence anyway, and I assume this is the same deal. -- Christofire DIAABTCOD#1 Daytona 955i TPPFAUICG#69BONY#10MIRTTH#7IMANASS#2SbS#20BOTAFOT# 117 "But..he looks so *innocent*" Full throttle for 55 minutes - a hell of a buzz. |