anyone...

a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so,
what are the facilities like &
b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
that exits nearest King William Street?

And yes, I know this is off-topic, but statistically, I reckon we'd be
better off with OT standing for "On Topic".

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"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com...
> a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so,
> what are the facilities like &

Ooh, J2EE course?

--
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In article <ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com>, darsy wrote:

> b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
> Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
> that exits nearest King William Street?

Get on the same tube as Kiran, and follow him as he disembarks, then ask
"Which exit do I need?"

This worked for me, but predicting the exact train and carriage was more
by luck than judgement, as we got on at different stops.

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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com.. .
>> a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so,
>> what are the facilities like &
>
>Ooh, J2EE course?

unfortunately, you need to be a "Certified Java Programmer" before
they'll let you on any of the J2EE courses, so even though I know it
already, I need to go on the "Java Programming Language" course first,
then take the certification exam, and then hopefully go on the
"Developing J2EE Compliant Applications" course in May.

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"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com...
> a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so,
> what are the facilities like &
> b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
> Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
> that exits nearest King William Street?

No idea about the facilities as I am not a computer programmer. As for the
tube your best bet would be to get off at Cannon Street, cross over the road
then walk up Walbrook. Have a look at a map and you'll see what I mean.

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Ginge <me2@privacy.net> wrote:

>In article <ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com>, darsy wrote:
>
>> b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
>> Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
>> that exits nearest King William Street?
>
>Get on the same tube as Kiran, and follow him as he disembarks, then ask
>"Which exit do I need?"

that'd mean being seen in public with Kiran, though.

>This worked for me, but predicting the exact train and carriage was more
>by luck than judgement, as we got on at different stops.

ah - probably for the best.

--
d.

"Big Tony" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>No idea about the facilities as I am not a computer programmer. As for the
>tube your best bet would be to get off at Cannon Street, cross over the road
>then walk up Walbrook. Have a look at a map and you'll see what I mean.

err, yes, but Cannon Street is somewhat less trivial for me to get to
than Bank.

--
d.

oh look, just found:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltbank.gif
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltmonu.jpg

which helps somewhat.

--
d.

"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>Would have been easier in VB, though

heh, but VB's for bodgers - everyone knows that

<fx: Waves to AntonyE>

--
d.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
>Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
>that exits nearest King William Street?

Walk overground.

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Sean Doherty <sean@hexmad.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is
>>Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument
>>that exits nearest King William Street?
>
>Walk overground.

from Bank? Yes, I was coming to that conclusion, despite what it looks
like on the A-Z.

--
d.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:00:32 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>Sean Doherty <sean@hexmad.com> wrote:
>
>>Walk overground.
>
>from Bank? Yes, I was coming to that conclusion, despite what it looks
>like on the A-Z.

Aye. It seemed quicker every time I've done it. Of course, it
depends on which end of the train you are on....
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Sean Doherty <sean@hexmad.com> wrote:

>Aye. It seemed quicker every time I've done it. Of course, it
>depends on which end of the train you are on....

well, I get on the Central Line at Liverpool street, so I can get on
either end with not much effort either way. I guess I'll just have to
experiment on the first day.

--
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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c24k4v$1p2dgt$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:f3kb40hvtdm09bj8ufjsdok61103602tau@4ax.com...
> We've just put together a broadly-J2EE framework using open source stuff,
> done by people who clearly had an actual project to deliver for
> (OpenSymphony, JBoss, Apache), and it rocks.
>
> Would have been easier in VB, though

Heretic. You'll be lynched.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House

auvache used to teach them, so he'll know all this.

--
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"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:k8mb401km5883i05u0if8sgnenqaenm368@4ax.com...
>
> I only know one MCSE that I have any respect for. He knew *more*
> before he took the course, I swear

What an unexpected response!

Anyway, yes lots of MCSE's are somewhat ..special. However, there equally a
number of Java people who are also 'special' and so forth.

It's all been done before regardless.

ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)

simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with
>something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach

<fx: confused>

I thought that's what you *did*.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:18:00 -0000, "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk>
wrote:

>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
>
>ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Speaking for myself, it may depend if they have extraneous blank lines
at the bottom of their posts.

--
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"Ben Blaney" <benblaney@ukrm.net> wrote in message
news:llnb401j0t613pkbe4r1j90htgvq2vr39k@4ax.com...

> Speaking for myself, it may depend if they have extraneous blank lines
> at the bottom of their posts.

Good point - not sure how that got in there - possibly due to me writing a
load more crap and then
summarising it to less crap.

Typical really.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:18:00 -0000, "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:k8mb401km5883i05u0if8sgnenqaenm368@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I only know one MCSE that I have any respect for. He knew *more*
>> before he took the course, I swear
>
>What an unexpected response!
>
>Anyway, yes lots of MCSE's are somewhat ..special. However, there equally a
>number of Java people who are also 'special' and so forth.
>
>It's all been done before regardless.
>
>ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)

I don't have any, cos I've managed to avoid them all, so far

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"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)
>
> I don't have any, cos I've managed to avoid them all, so far

You haven't you know...

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:40:58 -0000, "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:31ob40dt5d95pdcap9p48ooq9mh65q6jrf@4ax.com.. .
>> >ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)
>>
>> I don't have any, cos I've managed to avoid them all, so far

>
>You haven't you know...

Might I have done, at least a professional basis?
Or is this some horrible acronym joke that I'm not aware of?

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wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:

>simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>>encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with
>>something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach
>
><fx: confused>
>
>I thought that's what you *did*.
>
you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do
you?

--
d.

In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>,
darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with
>>>something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach
>>
>><fx: confused>
>>
>>I thought that's what you *did*.
>>
>you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do
>you?

I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work...

"William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:c24nvt$k3t$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...

> In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>,
> darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

> >you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do
> >you?
>
> I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work...

Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm going
to have to design a database tomorrow ...

--
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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>"William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:c24nvt$k3t$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>
>> I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work...
>
>Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm going
>to have to design a database tomorrow ...

*tricky*

--
d.

In article <c24rn5$1nhjag$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de>,
simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>"William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:c24nvt$k3t$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>
>> In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>,
>> darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do
>> >you?
>>
>> I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work...
>
>Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm going
>to have to design a database tomorrow ...

I never realised how close you were to the bleeding edge.
You should be in an academic envirnoment doing blue skies
research with that brain.

"William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:c24stp$o8s$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...

> I never realised how close you were to the bleeding edge.
> You should be in an academic envirnoment doing blue skies
> research with that brain.

Oh, I tried that for just over a year, but hanging out in labs with specky
geeks who think they're the next Linus Pauling wasn't really my bag. And
what are they doing now? In a lab in Hayes, force-feeding rhesus monkeys
with Persil Tablets, that's what ...

--
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"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0qsb4017pqh4e7lkp9j68bh588homed884@4ax.com...
> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

> >Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm
going
> >to have to design a database tomorrow ...
>
> *tricky*

It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for all
conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes of it, and
yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ...

--
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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for
all
> conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes of
it, and
> yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ...
>

Access?
--
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"CT" <ukrm@siteline.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for
> > all conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes
> > of it, and yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ...

> Access?

I was thinking of using Excel, actually

--
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In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote:
> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for
> all
> > conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes of
> it, and
> > yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ...

> Access?

No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes..
--
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Ginge wrote:
> In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote:
>> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account
>>> for all conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store
>>> terabytes of it, and yet fast enough to deliver it right to the
>>> point of need ...
>
>> Access?
>
> No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes..

Do IBM have anything like that? ;o)

--
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"'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote:
> Ginge wrote:
> > In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote:
> >>
> >> Access?
> >
> > No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes..
>
> Do IBM have anything like that? ;o)

Lotus approach

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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c24va3$1pq5dl$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "CT" <ukrm@siteline.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account
for
> > > all conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store
terabytes
> > > of it, and yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of
need ...
>
> > Access?
>
> I was thinking of using Excel, actually
>

Nah, you won't need anything like that big. Earl's Court perhaps?
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"simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0qsb4017pqh4e7lkp9j68bh588homed884@4ax.com.. .
>> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> >Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm
>going
>> >to have to design a database tomorrow ...
>>
>> *tricky*
>
>It *is* tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for all
>conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes of it, and
>yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ...

err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/ are
you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well...

--
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"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jt0c40dmtoo06dilrgdi5rtcrn7it5ibc3@4ax.com...
>
> err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/ are
> you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well...

Indeed...

dwb wrote:
> "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:jt0c40dmtoo06dilrgdi5rtcrn7it5ibc3@4ax.com...
>>
>> err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/
>> are you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well...
>
> Indeed...

Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and documents as
indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the whole system. The
database will take over the world. Look our share price proves it.

--
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0000, "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote:

>dwb wrote:
>> "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:jt0c40dmtoo06dilrgdi5rtcrn7it5ibc3@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/
>>> are you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well...
>>
>> Indeed...
>
>Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and documents as
>indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the whole system. The
>database will take over the world. Look our share price proves it.

Interestingly, the next Windows OS, Longhorn, turns this on its head -
the OS has an RDMS built into it. *Everything* is keyed and indexed.
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Champ <ukrm@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0000, "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote:
> >
> >Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and
> >documents as indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the
> >whole system. The database will take over the world. Look our share
> >price proves it.
>
> Interestingly, the next Windows OS, Longhorn, turns this on its head -
> the OS has an RDMS built into it. *Everything* is keyed and indexed.

Many many moons ago I briefly worked on an OS like that. Pick I think it
was called. Odd little bugger it was.

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	#1
darsy	anyone... a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so, what are the facilities like & b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument that exits nearest King William Street? And yes, I know this is off-topic, but statistically, I reckon we'd be better off with OT standing for "On Topic". -- d.

	#2
simonk	Re: anyone... "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com... > a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so, > what are the facilities like & Ooh, J2EE course? -- simonk

	#3
Ginge	Re: anyone... In article <ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com>, darsy wrote: > b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is > Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument > that exits nearest King William Street? Get on the same tube as Kiran, and follow him as he disembarks, then ask "Which exit do I need?" This worked for me, but predicting the exact train and carriage was more by luck than judgement, as we got on at different stops. -- Ginge - ZRX1200R, SZR660

	#4
darsy	Re: anyone... "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote: >"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message >news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com.. . >> a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so, >> what are the facilities like & > >Ooh, J2EE course? unfortunately, you need to be a "Certified Java Programmer" before they'll let you on any of the J2EE courses, so even though I know it already, I need to go on the "Java Programming Language" course first, then take the certification exam, and then hopefully go on the "Developing J2EE Compliant Applications" course in May. -- d.

	#5
Big Tony	Re: anyone... "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message news:ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com... > a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House, and if so, > what are the facilities like & > b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is > Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument > that exits nearest King William Street? No idea about the facilities as I am not a computer programmer. As for the tube your best bet would be to get off at Cannon Street, cross over the road then walk up Walbrook. Have a look at a map and you'll see what I mean. -- Big Tony BMW R1150GS Adventure BOTAFOF#21 BOTAFOT#120 BBB#3 PM#8 FTB#7 bigtony at you kay argh em dot net

	#6
darsy	Re: anyone... Ginge <me2@privacy.net> wrote: >In article <ftib40d7b35hnmov7g4o1uivrplfbkjft2@4ax.com>, darsy wrote: > >> b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is >> Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument >> that exits nearest King William Street? > >Get on the same tube as Kiran, and follow him as he disembarks, then ask >"Which exit do I need?" that'd mean being seen in public with Kiran, though. >This worked for me, but predicting the exact train and carriage was more >by luck than judgement, as we got on at different stops. ah - probably for the best. -- d.

	#7
darsy	Re: anyone... "Big Tony" <me@privacy.net> wrote: >No idea about the facilities as I am not a computer programmer. As for the >tube your best bet would be to get off at Cannon Street, cross over the road >then walk up Walbrook. Have a look at a map and you'll see what I mean. err, yes, but Cannon Street is somewhat less trivial for me to get to than Bank. -- d.

	#8
darsy	Re: anyone... oh look, just found: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltbank.gif http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltmonu.jpg which helps somewhat. -- d.

	#10
Sean Doherty	Re: anyone... On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: >b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is >Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument >that exits nearest King William Street? Walk overground. -- http://hexmad.com f650\|b12\|Ri

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darsy	Re: anyone... Sean Doherty <sean@hexmad.com> wrote: >On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: > >>b) ...know the best way to get through the warren that is >>Bank/Monument station from the Bank Circle Line to the bit of Monument >>that exits nearest King William Street? > >Walk overground. from Bank? Yes, I was coming to that conclusion, despite what it looks like on the A-Z. -- d.

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Ben Blaney	Re: anyone... On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:15:09 +0000, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: >a) ...been on any of Sun's training courses in Regis House auvache used to teach them, so he'll know all this. -- Ben Blaney

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dwb	Re: anyone... "Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message news:k8mb401km5883i05u0if8sgnenqaenm368@4ax.com... > > I only know one MCSE that I have any respect for. He knew more > before he took the course, I swear What an unexpected response! Anyway, yes lots of MCSE's are somewhat ..special. However, there equally a number of Java people who are also 'special' and so forth. It's all been done before regardless. ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-)

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William Grainger	Re: anyone... simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote: >encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with >something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach <fx: confused> I thought that's what you did.

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Ben Blaney	Re: anyone... On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:18:00 -0000, "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote: >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-) > > > > > > > Speaking for myself, it may depend if they have extraneous blank lines at the bottom of their posts. -- Ben Blaney

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dwb	Re: anyone... "Ben Blaney" <benblaney@ukrm.net> wrote in message news:llnb401j0t613pkbe4r1j90htgvq2vr39k@4ax.com... > Speaking for myself, it may depend if they have extraneous blank lines > at the bottom of their posts. Good point - not sure how that got in there - possibly due to me writing a load more crap and then summarising it to less crap. Typical really.

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Catman	Re: anyone... On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:18:00 -0000, "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote: > >"Catman" <catman@cuore-rustsportivo.co.uk> wrote in message >news:k8mb401km5883i05u0if8sgnenqaenm368@4ax.com.. . >> >> I only know one MCSE that I have any respect for. He knew more >> before he took the course, I swear > >What an unexpected response! > >Anyway, yes lots of MCSE's are somewhat ..special. However, there equally a >number of Java people who are also 'special' and so forth. > >It's all been done before regardless. > >ps. what's your view on MCSD's and MCDBA's? ;-) I don't have any, cos I've managed to avoid them all, so far -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

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darsy	Re: anyone... wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote: >simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote: >>encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with >>something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach > ><fx: confused> > >I thought that's what you did. > you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do you? -- d.

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William Grainger	Re: anyone... In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: >wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote: > >>simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote: >>>encourages this wooly "let's write a spec and let someone else bother with >>>something so tedious as an actual implementation" approach >> >><fx: confused> >> >>I thought that's what you did. >> >you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do >you? I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work...

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simonk	Re: anyone... "William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message news:c24nvt$k3t$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk... > In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>, > darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: > >you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do > >you? > > I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work... Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm going to have to design a database tomorrow ... -- simonk

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William Grainger	Re: anyone... In article <c24rn5$1nhjag$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de>, simonk <me7@privacy.net> wrote: >"William Grainger" <wfg1001@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message >news:c24nvt$k3t$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk... > >> In article <qbob409es079ta1dfvuntj6tuqh339edc9@4ax.com>, >> darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: > >> >you don't think Si gets anywhere /close/ to the spec-writing stage, do >> >you? >> >> I doubt Si gets anywhere close to actual work... > >Those were the days. I've had to install an IDE, and a wiki - and I'm going >to have to design a database tomorrow ... I never realised how close you were to the bleeding edge. You should be in an academic envirnoment doing blue skies research with that brain.

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simonk	Re: anyone... "CT" <ukrm@siteline.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de... > "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de... > > > > It is tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for > > all conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes > > of it, and yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ... > Access? I was thinking of using Excel, actually -- simonk

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Ginge	Re: anyone... In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote: > "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de... > > > > It is tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account for > all > > conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store terabytes of > it, and > > yet fast enough to deliver it right to the point of need ... > Access? No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes.. -- Ginge - ZRX1200R, SZR660

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'Hog	Re: anyone... Ginge wrote: > In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote: >> "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message >> news:c24u79$1oqt7h$1@ID-200745.news.uni-berlin.de... >>> >>> It is tricky, though ... it has to be flexible enough to account >>> for all conceivable future types of porn, large enough to store >>> terabytes of it, and yet fast enough to deliver it right to the >>> point of need ... > >> Access? > > No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes.. Do IBM have anything like that? ;o) -- 'Hog

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mups	Re: anyone... "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote: > Ginge wrote: > > In article <c24umd$1ps8on$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT wrote: > >> > >> Access? > > > > No, he needs a database that'll scale to terrabytes.. > > Do IBM have anything like that? ;o) Lotus approach -- Chris (XChrislX@Xchurchstone.comX) Remove X's for address CBR1000FL The Honda Fatblade Yam RS200 Ring-a-Ding

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'Hog	Re: anyone... dwb wrote: > "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message > news:jt0c40dmtoo06dilrgdi5rtcrn7it5ibc3@4ax.com... >> >> err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/ >> are you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well... > > Indeed... Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and documents as indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the whole system. The database will take over the world. Look our share price proves it. -- 'Hog

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Champ	Re: anyone... On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0000, "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote: >dwb wrote: >> "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:jt0c40dmtoo06dilrgdi5rtcrn7it5ibc3@4ax.com... >>> >>> err, you're not actually storing terabytes of porn /in a database/ >>> are you? I mean, I know you /could/, but, well... >> >> Indeed... > >Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and documents as >indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the whole system. The >database will take over the world. Look our share price proves it. Interestingly, the next Windows OS, Longhorn, turns this on its head - the OS has an RDMS built into it. Everything is keyed and indexed. -- Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T\|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

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mups	Re: anyone... Champ <ukrm@champ.org.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0000, "'Hog" <invalid@ukrm.net> wrote: > > > >Aha, I remember the Oracle 8i launch. Store all your images and > >documents as indexed blobs in the database. Let the database become the > >whole system. The database will take over the world. Look our share > >price proves it. > > Interestingly, the next Windows OS, Longhorn, turns this on its head - > the OS has an RDMS built into it. Everything is keyed and indexed. Many many moons ago I briefly worked on an OS like that. Pick I think it was called. Odd little bugger it was. -- Chris (XChrislX@Xchurchstone.comX) Remove X's for address CBR1000FL The Honda Fatblade Yam RS200 Ring-a-Ding