A Clockwork Teapot

I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety
appliance - think Z200 without the character...

More later (if I survive...)

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Platypus

"Balanced Scratchcard"

platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net:

> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety
> appliance - think Z200 without the character...
>
> More later (if I survive...)
>

I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great around
the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be
impossible on the GS.

Not so good on open road though. Suspension seemed to bottom out at the
slightest bump.

--
BMW R1150GS

wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote:

>platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net:
>
>> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety
>> appliance - think Z200 without the character...
>>
>I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great around
>the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be
>impossible on the GS.

What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.

--
darsy

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:18:07 GMT, "platypus" <platypus@ukrm.org>
wrote:

>I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety
>appliance - think Z200 without the character...
>
>More later (if I survive...)

Sir wants to have a go an a 'proper' F650[1], sir does.

[1] It's fixed now :-)
--
prawn f650&&b12

"darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com...
> wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
> >platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net:
> >
> >> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety
> >> appliance - think Z200 without the character...
> >>
> >I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great
around
> >the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be
> >impossible on the GS.
>
> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,

Dual Purpose? Taller seat height. No rubber band.

--
Big Tony BMW R1150GS Adventure
BOTAFOF#21 BOTAFOT#120 BBB#3 PM#8 FTB#7
bigtony at you kay argh em dot net

In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com,
darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
> wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>> platypus wrote in
>> news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net:
>>
>>> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved
>>> safety appliance - think Z200 without the character...
>>>
>> I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great
>> around the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that
>> would be impossible on the GS.
>
> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.

The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it?

--
Steve Parry

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/

K100RS SE
F650
(not forgetting the SK90PY)

"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com,
>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.
>
>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it?

and that's an "advantage" is it?

--
darsy

darsy wrote
>"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com,
>>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
>
>>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
>>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
>>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.
>>
>>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it?
>
>and that's an "advantage" is it?

Absolutely.

Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free
riding.

The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for
chain driven bikes the better imho.

--
steve auvache

"steve auvache" <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote in message
news:M3Pxn6AKau0AFw4q@auvache.force9.co.uk...
> darsy wrote
> >"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com,
> >>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
> >
> >>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
> >>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
> >>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.
> >>
> >>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it?
> >
> >and that's an "advantage" is it?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free
> riding.
>
> The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for
> chain driven bikes the better imho.
>
>
*Ding*

I mean *Twang*

On 18 Jun 2004 13:57:04 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote:

>Have you looked at the new SV650 powered V-strom? Low seat height
>according to the blurb. Comes in black.

yeah, I've heard it's pretty good.

Fancy a single though.

--
d.

"darsy" <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b066d0pmarsj20uf0nrb7dmu5ijh8up5ov@4ax.com...
> On 18 Jun 2004 13:57:04 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
> >Have you looked at the new SV650 powered V-strom? Low seat height
> >according to the blurb. Comes in black.
>
> yeah, I've heard it's pretty good.

SV650 powered? Sounds like a V-hom

--
simonk | rsv-mille, ccm404-ds

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:56:42 +0100, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>darsy wrote
>>"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com,
>>>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
>>
>>>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
>>>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar,
>>>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is.
>>>
>>>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it?
>>
>>and that's an "advantage" is it?
>
>Absolutely.
>
>Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free
>riding.
>
>The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for
>chain driven bikes the better imho.

<looks outside>

Not a scottoiler in sight:-)

--

Kevin - Basildon
XV535
GPZ305 (her's)
BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
OSOS#29

darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>
> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just
> the helmet-storage thing?

Softer suspension on the CS. I think the engine is in a different state
of tune, but ICBW.

--
Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD200 Z200 x2 ST70 DT50MX YTC#3
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06
BOF#30 WUSS#5 http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/

prawn <prawnNOTTHISBIT@hexmad.com> wrote:

> Sir wants to have a go an a 'proper' F650[1], sir does.
>
> [1] It's fixed now :-)

*Waves*

--
Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD200 Z200 x2 ST70 DT50MX YTC#3
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06
BOF#30 WUSS#5 http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/

platypus wrote in news:HzIAc.4261$_E7.38757658@news-text.cableinet.net:

>
> I know that practically any single which has its valves in the
> cylinder head gives its best when thrashed, but this is ridiculous.
> Trickling around town, it's as lumpy as rancid elephant spunk.
> Kangaroo petrol scenario. On the open road, nailed to the stop, it's
> fab if you keep it above 5K (and don't run into the rev limiter), but
> running along on a steady throttle, it all goes lumpy-surgey again.
>
> I blame the fool injection. Maybe it could be set up better, or
> re-chipped, or fitted with a FOAD flywheel, but I'd swap 20mph off the
> top end for more torque in the 3-4K range, and smooth delivery at
> part-throttle.
>

I had one for 3 days whilst Rydales negotiated with BMW over an out of
warranty claim [1] for a failed rear caliper on the GS. I found the CS to
be fine around town with no histrionics from the Fi. I suspect the bike you
rode needs a tweak although it could be that I'm quite forgiving of lumpy
Fi as the 1150 boxer is not exactly smooth at low revs.

[1] 3 year old caliper, corroded piston, BMW paid 50% even though the bike
only had a 12 month warranty [2]
[2] warranty now 3 years on new bikes

--
BMW R1150GS

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:39:23 +0100, "simonk" <me7@privacy.net> wrote:

>"darsy" <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:b066d0pmarsj20uf0nrb7dmu5ijh8up5ov@4ax.com.. .

>> yeah, I've heard it's pretty good.
>
>SV650 powered? Sounds like a V-hom

yeah, but in butch outdoors-y clothing...erm..

--
d.

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:49:43 GMT, "platypus" <platypus@ukrm.org>
wrote:

>I know that practically any single which has its valves in the cylinder head

<Baffled[1]>

Where else would you find the valves?

[1] Unless you're really referring to side valves, which were obsolete
fifty years ago.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3, CB400F2
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, BOTCdV#1

Ace wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:49:43 GMT, "platypus" <platypus@ukrm.org>
> wrote:
>
>>I know that practically any single which has its valves in the
>>cylinder head
>
> <Baffled[1]>
>
> Where else would you find the valves?
>
>
> [1] Unless you're really referring to side valves, which were obsolete
> fifty years ago.

*ding*

....or rather,

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

lamppost

chuff

etc

--
Platypus

"Balanced Scratchcard"

	#1
platypus	A Clockwork Teapot I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety appliance - think Z200 without the character... More later (if I survive...) -- Platypus "Balanced Scratchcard"

	#2
wessie	Re: A Clockwork Teapot platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net: > I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety > appliance - think Z200 without the character... > > More later (if I survive...) > I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great around the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be impossible on the GS. Not so good on open road though. Suspension seemed to bottom out at the slightest bump. -- BMW R1150GS

	#3
darsy	Re: A Clockwork Teapot wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote: >platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net: > >> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety >> appliance - think Z200 without the character... >> >I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great around >the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be >impossible on the GS. What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. -- darsy

	#4
prawn	Re: A Clockwork Teapot On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:18:07 GMT, "platypus" <platypus@ukrm.org> wrote: >I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety >appliance - think Z200 without the character... > >More later (if I survive...) Sir wants to have a go an a 'proper' F650[1], sir does. [1] It's fixed now :-) -- prawn f650&&b12

	#5
Big Tony	Re: A Clockwork Teapot "darsy" <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com... > wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote: > > >platypus wrote in news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net: > > > >> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved safety > >> appliance - think Z200 without the character... > >> > >I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great around > >the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that would be > >impossible on the GS. > > What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just > the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, Dual Purpose? Taller seat height. No rubber band. -- Big Tony BMW R1150GS Adventure BOTAFOF#21 BOTAFOT#120 BBB#3 PM#8 FTB#7 bigtony at you kay argh em dot net

	#6
Steve Parry	Re: A Clockwork Teapot In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com, darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote: > >> platypus wrote in >> news:jryAc.3598$MA1.31401163@news-text.cableinet.net: >> >>> I've got an F650CS as a loaner. It's a bit like an NHS-approved >>> safety appliance - think Z200 without the character... >>> >> I had one of those from Rydales as a loaner. I thought it was great >> around the narrow streets of Cardiff. Squeezes through gaps that >> would be impossible on the GS. > > What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just > the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, > but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it? -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/ K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY)

	#7
darsy	Re: A Clockwork Teapot "Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote: >In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com, >darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: >> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just >> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, >> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. > >The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it? and that's an "advantage" is it? -- darsy

	#8
steve auvache	Re: A Clockwork Teapot darsy wrote >"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com, >>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > >>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just >>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, >>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. >> >>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it? > >and that's an "advantage" is it? Absolutely. Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free riding. The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for chain driven bikes the better imho. -- steve auvache

	#9
flash@work	Re: A Clockwork Teapot "steve auvache" <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote in message news:M3Pxn6AKau0AFw4q@auvache.force9.co.uk... > darsy wrote > >"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com, > >>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > > > >>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just > >>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, > >>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. > >> > >>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it? > > > >and that's an "advantage" is it? > > Absolutely. > > Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free > riding. > > The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for > chain driven bikes the better imho. > > Ding I mean Twang

	#10
darsy	Re: A Clockwork Teapot On 18 Jun 2004 13:57:04 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote: >Have you looked at the new SV650 powered V-strom? Low seat height >according to the blurb. Comes in black. yeah, I've heard it's pretty good. Fancy a single though. -- d.

	#11
simonk	Re: A Clockwork Teapot "darsy" <darsy@slimwards.co.uk> wrote in message news:b066d0pmarsj20uf0nrb7dmu5ijh8up5ov@4ax.com... > On 18 Jun 2004 13:57:04 GMT, wessie <putmynamehere@ukrm.net> wrote: > > >Have you looked at the new SV650 powered V-strom? Low seat height > >according to the blurb. Comes in black. > > yeah, I've heard it's pretty good. SV650 powered? Sounds like a V-hom -- simonk \| rsv-mille, ccm404-ds

	#12
K Olley	Re: A Clockwork Teapot On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:56:42 +0100, steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote: >darsy wrote >>"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-you@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>In news:8aj5d0d7j4dsragga4jepd7p4cd93c92mf@4ax.com, >>>darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: >> >>>> What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just >>>> the helmet-storage thing? I quite like the look of the F650FS-Dakar, >>>> but as usual with BMW it's overpriced for what it is. >>> >>>The CS has the belt drive too does'nt it? >> >>and that's an "advantage" is it? > >Absolutely. > >Tens of thousands of miles of completely maintenance and trouble free >riding. > >The sooner we abandon the stupid and old fashioned affection we have for >chain driven bikes the better imho. <looks outside> Not a scottoiler in sight:-) -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29

	#13
The Older Gentleman	Re: A Clockwork Teapot darsy <darsy@sticky.co.uk> wrote: > > What's the advantage of the F650CS over the F650GS (Dakar)? Is it just > the helmet-storage thing? Softer suspension on the CS. I think the engine is in a different state of tune, but ICBW. -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD200 Z200 x2 ST70 DT50MX YTC#3 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 BOF#30 WUSS#5 http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/

	#14
The Older Gentleman	Re: A Clockwork Teapot prawn <prawnNOTTHISBIT@hexmad.com> wrote: > Sir wants to have a go an a 'proper' F650[1], sir does. > > [1] It's fixed now :-) Waves -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F CD200 Z200 x2 ST70 DT50MX YTC#3 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 BOF#30 WUSS#5 http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/

	#18
platypus	Re: A Clockwork Teapot Ace wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:49:43 GMT, "platypus" <platypus@ukrm.org> > wrote: > >>I know that practically any single which has its valves in the >>cylinder head > > <Baffled[1]> > > Where else would you find the valves? > > > [1] Unless you're really referring to side valves, which were obsolete > fifty years ago. ding ....or rather, chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff lamppost chuff etc -- Platypus "Balanced Scratchcard"