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  #51
Badger
 
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Well, yes. One assumes that coppers who hunt for KP offenders on the net
> have some form of exemption.


http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2003/30042--b.htm#46

The earlier act - PoCA'78 - which SOA'03 updates isn't online in the
same format, but you get the gist.

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  #52
Des
 
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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetchips.co.uk> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> The Older Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
>>> the following literary masterpiece:
>>>> Given all that, why did he accept a caution? I'd have told Plod to
>>>> get stuffed.
>>>
>>> Because what he did is still illegal. It's an offence to download
>>> kiddie porn irrespective of the reasons for doing it.

>>
>> Yes, Andy has explained it is an absolute offence, which I didn't
>> know.
>>
>> However, the fact remains that if one presents a valid (that is,
>> accepted by a jury, which is the only real test of validity here)
>> defence to a criminal accusation, then no offence has been committed.

>
> I've no idea why looking at it should be an offence of any nature,


Because for you to have to look at it, means that someone alse has to have
forced the brats to pose whilst sticking the carrot up their anus.

Or whatever.

D.

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  #53
The Older Gentleman
 
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Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> > So...... I passed all the details onto a ukrm-er who shall remain
> > nameless, but who was (and I believe still is) rather good at tracing
> > this sort of thing. Apparently it went through servers around the
> > world, but ultimately ended up coming out of Florida. So said ukrm-er
> > quietly passed all the details onto the FBI, and what happened after
> > that I know not.
> >
> > One and only time I've encountered KP. Gave me one helluva shock.

>
> IIRC the Operation Ore material was hosted in that vicinity...


I thought it was Texas, but am happy to be corrected.


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  #54
Dan White
 
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"Des" <des@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
news:mcrjo4-468.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org...
> Hog <hogSPAM@freenetchips.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>
>>
>> I've no idea why looking at it should be an offence of any nature,

>
> Because for you to have to look at it, means that someone alse has to have
> forced the brats to pose whilst sticking the carrot up their anus.


Not necessarily...


.... they might like it :-)


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  #55
Badger
 
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Hog wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>> Looking at it perpetuates a market for it

>
> Yes but my comment was about it being some kind of criminal offence just to
> look.


The offence in this country is to "make, take or possess with intent to
distribute" (PoCA'78) or to "possess" (CJA'99).

There's no offence of "looking", but it's difficult to look unless
someone has committed one of the aforementioned offences. Plus, in any
case, I've requoted ogden's point that looking perpetuates the market
which thus drives the making/taking of this material.

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  #56
steve auvache
 
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In article <46b6e854$0$7140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Possibly porn would become a barter industry,


*perk*


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  #57
AndrewR
 
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steve auvache wrote:
> In article <46b6e854$0$7140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>> Possibly porn would become a barter industry,

>
> *perk*


.... leaving you the world's poorest man.

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  #58
Hog
 
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AndrewR wrote:
> steve auvache wrote:
>> In article <46b6e854$0$7140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
>> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>> Possibly porn would become a barter industry,

>>
>> *perk*

>
> ... leaving you the world's poorest man.


Have you gauged demand for you and your missus yet?

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  #59
steve auvache
 
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In article <46b7565d$0$7155$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
<andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>steve auvache wrote:
>> In article <46b6e854$0$7140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
>> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>> Possibly porn would become a barter industry,

>>
>> *perk*

>
>... leaving you the world's poorest man.


What a horrible thing to bequeath somebody.


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  #60
AndrewR
 
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Hog wrote:
> AndrewR wrote:
>> steve auvache wrote:
>>> In article <46b6e854$0$7140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>, AndrewR
>>> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>>> Possibly porn would become a barter industry,
>>>
>>> *perk*

>>
>> ... leaving you the world's poorest man.

>
> Have you gauged demand for you and your missus yet?


I was thinking of going more for the specialist market -
www.SpeccyManLove.com

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  #61
Ace
 
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:30:07 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:


>OTOH veronica moser and her ilk can leave me feeling queasy for days!


Wierd. Doesn't bother me at all, although I can't say I actually find
it a turn-on. Well, not much anyway.
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  #62
Hog
 
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Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:30:07 +0100, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>> OTOH veronica moser and her ilk can leave me feeling queasy for days!

>
> Wierd. Doesn't bother me at all, although I can't say I actually find
> it a turn-on. Well, not much anyway.


Note to group:
Never tell Ace to go ESAD again please

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  #63
The Older Gentleman
 
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Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's also not a little hypocritical of him, since Desi spends so much
> time lusting after barely-legal teenagers, which isn't a good sign.


You know, I noticed his list of attractive women, and it occurred to me
that at least two (I'd never heard of the third) had played under-age
teen starlets.


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  #64
Simian
 
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raden wrote:

> I thought that the age of consent was 16 , so what's the 18 years of
> age limit then ?


Shagging's OK at 16 & 17 but not taking pictures of it.

As I understand it, it's actually illegal for a 16/17yo to take
pictures of him/her-self "doing it", as I think it's termed these days.
Why the age limit for child abuse in pictures is different to that in
real life I don't know, but I could probably take a good guess.

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  #65
raden
 
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In message <AfudnTinLco_eivbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net>, Dan White
<me@privacy.net> writes
>"Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:5ho500F3k0pjvU1@mid.individual.net...
><snip>
>> What I mean is that *selling* pornographic content should be an offence.
>> I'd enforce this through the credit card and merchant service companies.
>> So people can make and distribute their own porn but in no way may you
>> commercialise it.
>> I think it would have a huge and beneficial effect on the internet and on
>> society.

>
>You could be half right. Without the paid porn industry, large sections of
>Internet infrastructure simply wouldn't exist.
>

The same argument gets used about drugs, doesn't it

It's just to logical and obvious for politicos to comprehend

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  #66
AndrewR
 
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Simian wrote:

> As I understand it, it's actually illegal for a 16/17yo to take
> pictures of him/her-self "doing it", as I think it's termed these
> days.


ISTR that it's actually legal for them to take pictures for personal use,
but illegal to distribute them.

I could be wrong, mind.

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  #67
Veggie Dave
 
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raden <raden@kateda.org> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>I thought that the age of consent was 16 , so what's the 18 years of
>age limit then ?


Well, we used to allow 16 year olds to pose topless (which lead to some
remarkably hypocritical newspapers having on one page a rant about
bringing back hanging for paedos while on the next page a big, bold
headline about how this topless model did the photoshoot on her 16th
birthday), but PC brought about a change in the law a couple of years
ago and upped the age to 18.

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  #68
SteveH
 
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Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> >I thought that the age of consent was 16 , so what's the 18 years of
> >age limit then ?

>
> Well, we used to allow 16 year olds to pose topless (which lead to some
> remarkably hypocritical newspapers having on one page a rant about
> bringing back hanging for paedos while on the next page a big, bold
> headline about how this topless model did the photoshoot on her 16th
> birthday), but PC brought about a change in the law a couple of years
> ago and upped the age to 18.


This is a prime example of gutter press hypocrisy:

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4...9979846bx8.jpg

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  #69
Hog
 
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raden wrote:
> In message <AfudnTinLco_eivbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net>, Dan White
> <me@privacy.net> writes
>> "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5ho500F3k0pjvU1@mid.individual.net...
>> <snip>
>>> What I mean is that *selling* pornographic content should be an
>>> offence. I'd enforce this through the credit card and merchant
>>> service companies. So people can make and distribute their own porn
>>> but in no way may you commercialise it.
>>> I think it would have a huge and beneficial effect on the internet
>>> and on society.

>>
>> You could be half right. Without the paid porn industry, large
>> sections of Internet infrastructure simply wouldn't exist.
>>

> The same argument gets used about drugs, doesn't it
>
> It's just to logical and obvious for politicos to comprehend


People don't have to pay for their drugs with a CC. For online content it a
bit of a given and that makes it manageable.

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