OT: External HD recommendations

ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
> Des wrote:
>>
>> > Get a decent leaching program (so that's not eMule) and get on a decent
>> > torrent site.
>>
>> Pretend you're talking to an idiot, and explain what 'leaching' is, and
>> where I can get better downloads [1]...
>
> Leeching = downloading
>
> Get yr self a copy of Azureus or whatever other Mac-friendly torrent
> client Google throws up, point a browser at isohunt.com, and get
> lawbreaking. Emule is bollocks these days.

Thanks, I'll do that just as soon as I take my Mac back to 10.4.9. My
'lucky bloke' syndrome struck again when I bought myself a webcam, and lo
and behold the Apple Security Update that I'd performed a few days before,
hosed sound support for _that_ particular camera. Worse, it had to happen
when I'd lent my Mac OS-X DVDs to someone...

I just got them back an hour ago, so am backing up and getting ready to go
back in time (so to speak).

D.
--
des | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!'
BMW K100-LT

Ben wrote:

> Nowt wrong with the recommendation of the drive, I'd just buy
> elsewhere. Every time I've had to return something to Dixons, Currys
> or Comet it's been a complete pain in the arse and ended up being an
> argument about consumer law.
>
> So I simply won't buy from them anymore. Amazon on the other hand
> have been fine for returns.

May have changed now - I bought an LG DVD hard drive recorder from
them and unpacked it, tried it, hated it, so took it back. I noticed
from their warranty that 14 day returns shouldn't have been used,
unless returning as faulty, so I just re-taped the box and told them
it was crap - didn't have the features I needed. They refunded
without further question, apart from me confirming that there was
nothing on the hard drive. Now eagerly awaiting the samsung
DVD-SH855M that I was recommended, and has all the features I wanted
and some I didn't...

As to the OP, try Staples if you have one near you - I bought an
Iomega 250gb for less then £70, which has worked fine and silently,
and a Maxtor 300gb for around £80 (at least 6 months ago) which is
still in it's box since I've become paranoid about all the "Maxtor are
crap" reviews I've read...

--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)

"ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:46B98E8D.574A1CE@pre.org...
> Beav wrote:
>>
>> "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message
>> news:46B8F8E7.4CE3B71A@pre.org...
>> > Beav wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:46B8C10F.46E6729A@pre.org...
>> >> > Beav wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Try downloading a few films, then unpacking them into a watchable
>> >> >> format.
>> >> >> Each 4.7 gig film now takes up closer to 10 gig and there's not
>> >> >> much
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> do about it if you're seeding back.
>> >> >
>> >> > So why not delete the "unpacked" version once you've watched it?
>> >>
>> >> Because it's the unpacked version that's the source for the seeding
>> >> back
>> >> upline.
>> >
>> > Surely what you seed is the same as what you downloaded in the first
>> > place, unless you're creating a new torrent/whatever to upload?
>>
>> Rar's are what're downloaded. Maybe there IS something else lurking
>> within
>> the puter that'll be enough to seed but if so, I'm not sure what or where
>> it
>> is.
>
> OK, so why's "the unpacked version ... the source for the seeding"?
>
> Download the rar files, leave them seeding.

Which I do.

>Unpack, don't delete the rar
> files,

Which is what I do and don't do.

> watch and delete the unpacked version.

Which I do unless I, or anyone else wants to watch the film and that's when
the drives are storing big files twice.

If you're
> downloading/seeding rar files, your p2p software won't give a monkeys
> about the unpacked version so you don't need it after watching. If you
> want to watch it again, unpack it again.

Which I do, but the number of files is growing, which answers the question
posed "How do you fill a hard drive *that* big?"

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:5hu7lsF3mb8s8U1@mid.individual.net...
> Ben wrote:
>
>> Nowt wrong with the recommendation of the drive, I'd just buy
>> elsewhere. Every time I've had to return something to Dixons, Currys
>> or Comet it's been a complete pain in the arse and ended up being an
>> argument about consumer law.
>>
>> So I simply won't buy from them anymore. Amazon on the other hand
>> have been fine for returns.
>
> May have changed now - I bought an LG DVD hard drive recorder from them
> and unpacked it, tried it, hated it, so took it back. I noticed from
> their warranty that 14 day returns shouldn't have been used, unless
> returning as faulty, so I just re-taped the box and told them it was
> crap - didn't have the features I needed. They refunded without further
> question, apart from me confirming that there was nothing on the hard
> drive. Now eagerly awaiting the samsung DVD-SH855M that I was
> recommended, and has all the features I wanted and some I didn't...
>
> As to the OP, try Staples if you have one near you - I bought an Iomega
> 250gb for less then £70, which has worked fine and silently, and a Maxtor
> 300gb for around £80 (at least 6 months ago) which is still in it's box
> since I've become paranoid about all the "Maxtor are crap" reviews I've
> read...

I bought a Maxtor 400 gig a year or so ago and it's been perfect. No noises
and no complaints. On the other hand, I bought a 500 gig Western Digital
last month and today it began the slow slide to the bin, taking ages to
start up and making clicky noises while it's trying.

Given a choice, I'd go with another Maxtor.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

"Ben" <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message
news:l07jb3dviek56dht24h2hcmgmkj12hl64a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:31:36 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ben" <ukrm@bensales.com> wrote in message
>>news:8asgb3hrcsj0g4ia03sgpt4k6cn9ea0qpe@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:06:27 +0100, Colin Irvine
>>> <Colin.Irvine@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:53:18 +0100, Ben <ukrm@bensales.com> squeezed
>>>>out the following:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm after 2 external hard drives to use as photo backups (use one
>>>>>drive and daily duplicate to the other).
>>>>>
>>>>>Criteria...
>>>>>
>>>>>Silent or near-as-dammit.
>>>>>Under 100 quid per drive
>>>>>USB2
>>>>>Min 200 Gb per drive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Current leader is
>>>>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/LaCie-Deskto.../dp/B000HD1NEW
>>>>>
>>>>>Any other suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>I've used a Freecom for a couple of years - very happy with it. PC
>>>>World have a web deal on the 400Gb for ukp 73.96. That's what I'd get.
>>>
>>> I have a policy of not buying from DSG.
>>
>>You didn't include that in your criteria before. Any more surprises
>>waiting
>>in the wings?

>
> It's IT kit, you can get it anywhere.

There were none at Summerfields today when I called in for a loaf of bread.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

Beav wrote:
>
> "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:46B98E8D.574A1CE@pre.org...
> >> >> > Beav wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Try downloading a few films, then unpacking them into a watchable
> >> >> >> format.
> >> >> >> Each 4.7 gig film now takes up closer to 10 gig and there's not
> >> >> >> much
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> do about it if you're seeding back.
> >> >> >
> > If you're
> > downloading/seeding rar files, your p2p software won't give a monkeys
> > about the unpacked version so you don't need it after watching. If you
> > want to watch it again, unpack it again.
>
> Which I do

Well then unless you're about to watch something, or have just watched
it and haven't deleted it yet, any download is only going to take up as
much space as the original rar files. "Each 4.7 gig file now takes up
closer to 10 gig" only if you unpack them all and never delete them,
which apparently you don't do.

Have to say, I'm stumped.

> but the number of files is growing, which answers the question
> posed "How do you fill a hard drive *that* big?"

See those files you downloaded and left seeding? Download some more.
Lots more.

--
ogden
sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike

Beav wrote:

> I bought a Maxtor 400 gig a year or so ago and it's been perfect. No noises
> and no complaints. On the other hand, I bought a 500 gig Western Digital
> last month and today it began the slow slide to the bin, taking ages to
> start up and making clicky noises while it's trying.
>
> Given a choice, I'd go with another Maxtor.

I'll open the box then...thanks

--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Danny
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> saying something like:

>> Given a choice, I'd go with another Maxtor.
>
>I'll open the box then...thanks

Unless you can ID the HD it contains as being a known troublesome model,
I wouldn't worry overmuch. Most/all of the HD makers have been through a
period of troublesome products, then come back up in quality.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

	#51
Des	Re: OT: External HD recommendations ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote: > Des wrote: >> >> > Get a decent leaching program (so that's not eMule) and get on a decent >> > torrent site. >> >> Pretend you're talking to an idiot, and explain what 'leaching' is, and >> where I can get better downloads [1]... > > Leeching = downloading > > Get yr self a copy of Azureus or whatever other Mac-friendly torrent > client Google throws up, point a browser at isohunt.com, and get > lawbreaking. Emule is bollocks these days. Thanks, I'll do that just as soon as I take my Mac back to 10.4.9. My 'lucky bloke' syndrome struck again when I bought myself a webcam, and lo and behold the Apple Security Update that I'd performed a few days before, hosed sound support for _that_ particular camera. Worse, it had to happen when I'd lent my Mac OS-X DVDs to someone... I just got them back an hour ago, so am backing up and getting ready to go back in time (so to speak). D. -- des \| 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT

	#52
Danny	Re: OT: External HD recommendations Ben wrote: > Nowt wrong with the recommendation of the drive, I'd just buy > elsewhere. Every time I've had to return something to Dixons, Currys > or Comet it's been a complete pain in the arse and ended up being an > argument about consumer law. > > So I simply won't buy from them anymore. Amazon on the other hand > have been fine for returns. May have changed now - I bought an LG DVD hard drive recorder from them and unpacked it, tried it, hated it, so took it back. I noticed from their warranty that 14 day returns shouldn't have been used, unless returning as faulty, so I just re-taped the box and told them it was crap - didn't have the features I needed. They refunded without further question, apart from me confirming that there was nothing on the hard drive. Now eagerly awaiting the samsung DVD-SH855M that I was recommended, and has all the features I wanted and some I didn't... As to the OP, try Staples if you have one near you - I bought an Iomega 250gb for less then £70, which has worked fine and silently, and a Maxtor 300gb for around £80 (at least 6 months ago) which is still in it's box since I've become paranoid about all the "Maxtor are crap" reviews I've read... -- Regards, Danny http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site) (apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)

	#53
Beav	Re: OT: External HD recommendations "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:46B98E8D.574A1CE@pre.org... > Beav wrote: >> >> "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message >> news:46B8F8E7.4CE3B71A@pre.org... >> > Beav wrote: >> >> >> >> "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message >> >> news:46B8C10F.46E6729A@pre.org... >> >> > Beav wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Try downloading a few films, then unpacking them into a watchable >> >> >> format. >> >> >> Each 4.7 gig film now takes up closer to 10 gig and there's not >> >> >> much >> >> >> you >> >> >> can >> >> >> do about it if you're seeding back. >> >> > >> >> > So why not delete the "unpacked" version once you've watched it? >> >> >> >> Because it's the unpacked version that's the source for the seeding >> >> back >> >> upline. >> > >> > Surely what you seed is the same as what you downloaded in the first >> > place, unless you're creating a new torrent/whatever to upload? >> >> Rar's are what're downloaded. Maybe there IS something else lurking >> within >> the puter that'll be enough to seed but if so, I'm not sure what or where >> it >> is. > > OK, so why's "the unpacked version ... the source for the seeding"? > > Download the rar files, leave them seeding. Which I do. >Unpack, don't delete the rar > files, Which is what I do and don't do. > watch and delete the unpacked version. Which I do unless I, or anyone else wants to watch the film and that's when the drives are storing big files twice. If you're > downloading/seeding rar files, your p2p software won't give a monkeys > about the unpacked version so you don't need it after watching. If you > want to watch it again, unpack it again. Which I do, but the number of files is growing, which answers the question posed "How do you fill a hard drive that big?" -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19

	#56
ogden	Re: OT: External HD recommendations Beav wrote: > > "ogden" <ogden@pre.org> wrote in message news:46B98E8D.574A1CE@pre.org... > >> >> > Beav wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Try downloading a few films, then unpacking them into a watchable > >> >> >> format. > >> >> >> Each 4.7 gig film now takes up closer to 10 gig and there's not > >> >> >> much > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> can > >> >> >> do about it if you're seeding back. > >> >> > > > If you're > > downloading/seeding rar files, your p2p software won't give a monkeys > > about the unpacked version so you don't need it after watching. If you > > want to watch it again, unpack it again. > > Which I do Well then unless you're about to watch something, or have just watched it and haven't deleted it yet, any download is only going to take up as much space as the original rar files. "Each 4.7 gig file now takes up closer to 10 gig" only if you unpack them all and never delete them, which apparently you don't do. Have to say, I'm stumped. > but the number of files is growing, which answers the question > posed "How do you fill a hard drive that big?" See those files you downloaded and left seeding? Download some more. Lots more. -- ogden sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike

	#58
Grimly Curmudgeon	Re: OT: External HD recommendations We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Danny <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> saying something like: >> Given a choice, I'd go with another Maxtor. > >I'll open the box then...thanks Unless you can ID the HD it contains as being a known troublesome model, I wouldn't worry overmuch. Most/all of the HD makers have been through a period of troublesome products, then come back up in quality. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day.