Will Dockery

On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>
> > The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of himself,
> > complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the test,
> > he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say that
> > one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer through a
> > long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes of
> > love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons in
> > himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he needs
> > all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all men
> > the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
> > supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is actually a
> > thief of Fire
>
> > -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>
> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?

Here's one, "Ophelia", from http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...d-on-calm.html

On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.

For more than a thousand years sad Ophelia
Has passed, a white phantom, down the long black river.
For more than a thousand years her sweet madness
Has murmured its ballad to the evening breeze.

The wind kisses her breasts and unfolds in a wreath
Her great veils rising and falling with the waters;
The shivering willows weep on her shoulder,
The rushes lean over her wide, dreaming brow.

The ruffled water-lilies are sighing around her;
At times she rouses, in a slumbering alder,
Some nest from which escapes a small rustle of wings;
A mysterious anthem falls from the golden stars.

O pale Ophelia! beautiful as snow!
Yes child, you died, carried off by a river!
It was the winds descending from the great mountains of Norway
That spoke to you in low voices of better freedom.

It was a breath of wind, that, twisting your great hair,
Brought strange rumors to your dreaming mind;
It was your heart listening to the song of Nature
In the groans of the tree and the sighs of the nights;

It was the voice of mad seas, the great roar,
That shattered your child's heart, too human and too soft;
It was a handsome pale knight, a poor madman
Who one April morning sate mute at your knees!

Heaven! Love! Freedom! What a dream, oh poor crazed Girl!
You melted to him as snow does to a fire;
Your great visions strangled your words
And fearful Infinity terrified your blue eye!

And the poet says that by starlight
You come seeking, in the night, the flowers that you picked
And that he has seen on the water, lying in her long veils
White Ophelia floating, like a great lily.

-Arthur Rimbaud

Some biographical info on Rimbaud:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rimbaud

--
"Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

"Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Mistress Ouya

Will Dockery wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of himself,
>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the test,
>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say that
>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer through a
>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes of
>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons in
>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he needs
>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all men
>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is actually a
>>> thief of Fire
>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>
> Here's one, "Ophelia", from http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...d-on-calm.html
>
> On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>

Don't like it. Too sensual. How about a Serbian or a Serbian American
poet for me? That's my new love.

Will Dockery

On Jun 20, 2:29 am, Mistress Ouya wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> >>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of himself,
> >>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the test,
> >>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say that
> >>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer through a
> >>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes of
> >>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons in
> >>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he needs
> >>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all men
> >>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
> >>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is actually a
> >>> thief of Fire
> >>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
> >> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> >> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> >> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>
> > Here's one, "Ophelia", fromhttp://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/2007/01/ophelia-by-arthur-rimbaud...
>
> > On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> > White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> > Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> > In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>
> Don't like it. Too sensual. How about a Serbian or a Serbian American
> poet for me? That's my new love.

I don't know of any offhand, but there's no doubt some out there.

Google "serbia" + "poet" and see what comes up...

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

"The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

Mistress Ouya

Will Dockery wrote:
> On Jun 20, 2:29 am, Mistress Ouya wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>>>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of himself,
>>>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the test,
>>>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say that
>>>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer through a
>>>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes of
>>>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons in
>>>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he needs
>>>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all men
>>>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
>>>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is actually a
>>>>> thief of Fire
>>>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>>>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
>>>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
>>>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>>> Here's one, "Ophelia", fromhttp://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/2007/01/ophelia-by-arthur-rimbaud...
>>> On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
>>> White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
>>> Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
>>> In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>> Don't like it. Too sensual. How about a Serbian or a Serbian American
>> poet for me? That's my new love.
>
> I don't know of any offhand, but there's no doubt some out there.
>
> Google "serbia" + "poet" and see what comes up...
>
> --
> "Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
> "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
I have been, first in Yahoo groups. So far what I have found is a sappy
Serbian singer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sp9OOoxCJo
Eurovision 2007 - Winner - Marija Serifovic - Molitva
Yuck. It is interesting, the language sounded Asian to me at first -
Japanese. I know Serbia has Asian influences, you can really hear them
in this song, and even the singer looks Asian. It sounds like Asian pop.
Sick. Not my cup of tea at all.

Renay

"Mistress Ouya" <olympiada2007@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f5ah8k$j0m$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
>>>> himself,
>>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
>>>> test,
>>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say
>>>> that
>>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
>>>> through a
>>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
>>>> of
>>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
>>>> in
>>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
>>>> needs
>>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
>>>> men
>>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
>>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
>>>> actually a
>>>> thief of Fire
>>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
>>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
>>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>>
>> Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>> http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...d-on-calm.html
>>
>> On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
>> White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
>> Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
>> In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>>
>
> Don't like it. Too sensual.

are you the one who told us you dance
for men and you're good at it?

Renay



How about a Serbian or a Serbian American
> poet for me? That's my new love.

Will Dockery

"Mistress Ouya" wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> >prosphora wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> >>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
himself,
> >>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
test,
> >>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I
say that
> >>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
through a
> >>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
of
> >>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
in
> >>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
needs
> >>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
men
> >>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
> >>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
actually a
> >>> thief of Fire
> >>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
> >> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> >> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> >> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
> >
> > Here's one, "Ophelia", from
http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...d-on-calm.html
> >
> > On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> > White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> > Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> > In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>
> Don't like it. Too sensual.

To backtrack here a bit, you consider "sensual" in poetry to be a bad thing?
Without the sensual element, most poetry falls flat, in my opinion.

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

"The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

kat2@mindspring.com

On Jun 20, 12:47 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@knology.net> wrote:
> "Mistress Ouya" wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >prosphora wrote:
> > >> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > >>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> > >>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
> himself,
> > >>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
> test,
> > >>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I
> say that
> > >>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
> through a
> > >>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
> of
> > >>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
> in
> > >>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
> needs
> > >>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
> men
> > >>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
> > >>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
> actually a
> > >>> thief of Fire
> > >>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
> > >> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> > >> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> > >> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>
> > > Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>
> http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...arthur-rimbaud...
>
>
>
> > > On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> > > White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> > > Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> > > In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>
> > Don't like it. Too sensual.
>
> To backtrack here a bit, you consider "sensual" in poetry to be a bad thing?
> Without the sensual element, most poetry falls flat, in my opinion.
>
> --
> "Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
> "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I liked it. Lovely rich stuff.

Will Dockery

kat2 wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>>prosphora wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > >>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> > > >>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
himself,
> > > >>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to
the test,
> > > >>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it!
I say that
> > > >>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
through a
> > > >>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All
shapes of
> > > >>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all
poisons in
> > > >>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where
he needs
> > > >>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among
all men
> > > >>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and
the
> > > >>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
actually a thief of Fire
>>
> >>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>
> > > >> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> > > >> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you
post
> > > >> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
> >
> > > > Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>
http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...arthur-rimbaud...
>
> > > > On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> > > > White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> > > > Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> > > > In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
> >
> > > Don't like it. Too sensual.
> >
> > To backtrack here a bit, you consider "sensual" in poetry to be a bad
thing?
> > Without the sensual element, most poetry falls flat, in my opinion.
>
> I liked it. Lovely rich stuff.

And as I just posted, in English translation there's the added /riches/ (or
botches) of multiple interpretations.

I have three Rimbaud books here, and the style and quality of the
translations vary wildly in them... one even forces English rhymes onto the
poems and tends to keep the wording and images as "calm" as possible, while
another goes in the other direction, stressing Rimbaud's more bizarre
side... the other day I saw a nice looking new edition on the shelves, with
the blurb "The definitive Rimbaud translation for our times"... hopefully
this time they stick to what he actually /wrote/, and get it to English as
close as they can.

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

"The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

Rik

baloney wrote:

> On Jun 20, 1:15 pm, "Renay" <renays...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> "Mistress Ouya" <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

<crapsnip>

>> doesn't appeal to your WHAT?
>>
>> Renay
>>
> Her "sensibilities" in the sense that Jane Austin intended in "Sense
> and Sensibility." Ouya like to play Prudenella Cyansox, but her socks
> keep falling about her ankles revealing her smutty tattoos. She
> thought "The Sidewise Smile" was "Very sophisticated." yet Rimbaud's
> Ophelia is provocatively erotic. Either Ouya has no idea what a
> "sidewise smile" is and the jist of David-2's poem, or she is
> inconsistent in her tastes. She keeps digging herself deeper into her
> pile of poo.
>
> I think she has kill-filed us, so we can say awful stuff about her
> with impunity. This should please GB and Basha-Kook immensely.
>
Not if I respond to all your posts, you can't. I'm not on the thuglist
(yet).

Rik, knee deep.

Renay

"Rik" <rik@kalieda.org> wrote in message
news:yFeei.99674$hj5.84102@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> baloney wrote:
>
>> On Jun 20, 1:15 pm, "Renay" <renays...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> "Mistress Ouya" <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> <crapsnip>
>
>>> doesn't appeal to your WHAT?
>>>
>>> Renay
> >>
>> Her "sensibilities" in the sense that Jane Austin intended in "Sense
>> and Sensibility." Ouya like to play Prudenella Cyansox, but her socks
>> keep falling about her ankles revealing her smutty tattoos. She
>> thought "The Sidewise Smile" was "Very sophisticated." yet Rimbaud's
>> Ophelia is provocatively erotic. Either Ouya has no idea what a
>> "sidewise smile" is and the jist of David-2's poem, or she is
>> inconsistent in her tastes. She keeps digging herself deeper into her
>> pile of poo.
>>
>> I think she has kill-filed us, so we can say awful stuff about her
>> with impunity. This should please GB and Basha-Kook immensely.
>>
> Not if I respond to all your posts, you can't. I'm not on the thuglist
> (yet).
>
> Rik, knee deep.

this is thuglike behavior if I've ever seen thuglike behavior.

c'mon, Whateveryournameistoday,
PUT RIK ON THE THUGLIST!


rENAY

(dammit!)

Renay

Mistress Ouya

Will Dockery wrote:

>>> -Rimbaud
>>>
>>> And dozens of other variations... pretty much any book of Rimbaud you
> pick
>>> up in English will have "different" poems, depending on the
> interpretation
>>> and agenda of the translator.
>>>
>> I just do not like his poetry, I am sorry. I like Theodore Roethke
>> better. Rimbaud just doesn't do it for me.
>
> Well, sure, no problem with not liking Rimbaud, of course... I've no doubt
> many here agree...
>
> --
> "Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>
> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>
Unfortunately I have 23 people here filtered. So you will have to be my
agent.

NoLinks

On Jun 20, 3:26 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@knology.net> wrote:
> "Mistress Ouya" wrote:
> >Will Dockery wrote:
> >> prosphora wrote:
> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> >>>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
> himself,
> >>>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
> test,
> >>>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I
> say that
> >>>>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
> through a
> >>>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
> of
> >>>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
> in
> >>>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
> needs
> >>>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
> men
> >>>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
> >>>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
>
> actually a thief of Fire
>
> >>>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
> >>>>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> >>>>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> >>>>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
> > >>>>> Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>
> http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...arthur-rimbaud...

Gorgeous.

Leisha

Mistress Ouya

NoLinks wrote:
> On Jun 20, 3:26 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@knology.net> wrote:
>> "Mistress Ouya" wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> prosphora wrote:
>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>>>>>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
>> himself,
>>>>>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
>> test,
>>>>>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I
>> say that
>>>>>>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
>> through a
>>>>>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
>> of
>>>>>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
>> in
>>>>>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
>> needs
>>>>>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
>> men
>>>>>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
>>>>>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
>> actually a thief of Fire
>>
>>>>>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>>>>>>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
>>>>>>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
>>>>>>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>>>>>>>> Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>> http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...arthur-rimbaud...
>
> Gorgeous.
>
> Leisha
>
Leisha, if you wish to correspond with me further, use email.
Mistress Ouya

Will Dockery

On Jun 20, 2:29 am, Mistress Ouya wrote:
>Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>>>> Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
> >>>>> The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
himself,
> >>>>> complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to
the test,
> >>>>> he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I
say that
> >>>>> one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
through a
> >>>>> long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All
shapes of
> >>>>> love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all
poisons in
> >>>>> himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
needs
> >>>>> all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among
all men
> >>>>> the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and
the
> >>>>> supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
actually a thief of Fire
>
>>>>> -Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
> >>>> Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
> >>>> Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
> >>>> your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
> >>> Here's one, "Ophelia",
fromhttp://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/2007/01/ophelia-by-arthur-rimbaud...
> >>> On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
> >>> White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
> >>> Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
> >>> In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>
> >> Don't like it. Too sensual. How about a Serbian or a Serbian American
> >> poet for me? That's my new love.
> >
> > I don't know of any offhand, but there's no doubt some out there.
> >
> > Google "serbia" + "poet" and see what comes up...
>
> I have been, first in Yahoo groups. So far what I have found is a sappy
> Serbian singer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sp9OOoxCJo
> Eurovision 2007 - Winner - Marija Serifovic - Molitva
> Yuck. It is interesting, the language sounded Asian to me at first -
> Japanese. I know Serbia has Asian influences, you can really hear them
> in this song, and even the singer looks Asian. It sounds like Asian pop.
> Sick. Not my cup of tea at all.

Hmmm... there's /gotta/ be some better Serbian poets out there, though I'm
not familar with the area except from what was shown on the news.

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"Mistress Ouya" wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> -Rimbaud
> >>>
> >>> And dozens of other variations... pretty much any book of Rimbaud you
pick
> >>> up in English will have "different" poems, depending on the
interpretation
> >>> and agenda of the translator.
> >>>
> >> I just do not like his poetry, I am sorry. I like Theodore Roethke
> >> better. Rimbaud just doesn't do it for me.
> >
> > Well, sure, no problem with not liking Rimbaud, of course... I've no
doubt
> > many here agree...
> >
> Unfortunately I have 23 people here filtered. So you will have to be my
agent.

23?!?

Wow, I didn't even know we had that many people actually posting here!

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"Mistress Ouya" <olympiada2007@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f5cb6h$qtq$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>> -Rimbaud
>>>>
>>>> And dozens of other variations... pretty much any book of Rimbaud you
>> pick
>>>> up in English will have "different" poems, depending on the
>> interpretation
>>>> and agenda of the translator.
>>>>
>>> I just do not like his poetry, I am sorry. I like Theodore Roethke
>>> better. Rimbaud just doesn't do it for me.
>>
>> Well, sure, no problem with not liking Rimbaud, of course... I've no doubt
>> many here agree...

I like you.


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>> "Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
>> http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>
>> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>>
>>
> Unfortunately I have 23 people here filtered. So you will have to be my agent.

Dennis M. Hammes

Renay wrote:

> "Mistress Ouya" <olympiada2007@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f5ah8k$j0m$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, prosphora wrote:
>>>
>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Arthur Rimbaud's poetry manifesto:
>>>>>The first study for the man who wants to be a poet is knowledge of
>>>>>himself,
>>>>>complete: he searches for his soul, he inspects it, he puts it to the
>>>>>test,
>>>>>he learns it. As soon as he has learned it, he must cultivate it! I say
>>>>>that
>>>>>one must be a seer, make oneself a seer. The poet becomes a seer
>>>>>through a
>>>>>long, immense, and reasoned derangement of all the senses. All shapes
>>>>>of
>>>>>love suffering, madness. He searches himself, he exhausts all poisons
>>>>>in
>>>>>himself, to keep only the quintessences. Ineffable torture where he
>>>>>needs
>>>>>all his faith, all his superhuman strength, where he becomes among all
>>>>>men
>>>>>the great patient, the great criminal, the great accursed one--and the
>>>>>supreme Scholar! For he reaches the unknown! ....So the poet is
>>>>>actually a
>>>>>thief of Fire
>>>>>-Arthur Rimbaud, The Letter of the Seer, May 15, 1871
>>>>
>>>>Wow!!! Thanks. I think I am in love. I don't think the traditional
>>>>Orthodox look favorably upon Rimbaud, but oh well. How about you post
>>>>your favorite Rimbaud poem for us or his biography?
>>>
>>>Here's one, "Ophelia", from
>>>http://velvet-and-rust.blogspot.com/...d-on-calm.html
>>>
>>>On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping
>>>White Ophelia floats like a great lily;
>>>Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils...
>>>In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.
>>>
>>
>>Don't like it. Too sensual.
>
>
> are you the one who told us you dance
> for men and you're good at it?
>
> Renay
>

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