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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
kat2 wrote
>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: > >"baloney" wrote: > >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: > > > > > >> Your prediction: > > > > > >> Will Dockery will die of: > > > > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys are ugly. > > > > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. > > > > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of > > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". > > > I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts me. A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. > > What other option is there but to fight back? > > Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation has gone beyond creepy. I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. -- "God's Toybox" by Shadowville All-Stars: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Fadeaway Encounter" by Dockery-Conley http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says...
> >kat2 wrote >>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >> >"baloney" wrote: >> >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >> > >> > > >> Your prediction: >> > >> > > >> Will Dockery will die of: >> > >> > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >are ugly. >> > >> > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >> > >> > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >> > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >> > >> I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >me. > >A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your own such death wishes. >> > What other option is there but to fight back? >> >> Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. > >You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >has gone beyond creepy. you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. >I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. sure you will. most sincerely, GodBuilt -- ----------------------------------------------- "I like to drink, I like to drive, I like to think all of the Jews got out of the Holocaust alive, my name is Mel, and can't you tell, I like Tequila!" Denis Leary |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:58 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
wrote: > In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says... >> >>kat2 wrote >>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>> >"baloney" wrote: >>> >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>> > >>> > > >> Your prediction: >>> > >>> > > >> Will Dockery will die of: >>> > >>> > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >>are ugly. >>> > >>> > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>> > >>> > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>> > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>> > >>> I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >>me. >> >>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. > > what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your > own such death wishes. > >>> > What other option is there but to fight back? >>> >>> Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. >> >>You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >>has gone beyond creepy. > > you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. > >>I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. > > sure you will. Without us Will is even less than the nothing he already is. I'm his biggest promoter. heh -- #1 Offishul Ruiner of Usenet, March 2007 #1 Usenet Asshole, March 2007 #1 Bartlo Pset, March 13-24 2007 #10 Most hated Usenetizen of all time Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004 COOSN-266-06-25794 |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
In article <pan.2007.04.27.17.51.01.330753@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow
says... > >On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:58 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >wrote: > >> In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says... >>> >>>kat2 wrote >>>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>>> >"baloney" wrote: >>>> >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >> Your prediction: >>>> > >>>> > > >> Will Dockery will die of: >>>> > >>>> > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >>>are ugly. >>>> > >>>> > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>>> > >>>> > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>>> > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>>> > >>>> I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >>>me. >>> >>>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. >> >> what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your >> own such death wishes. >> >>>> > What other option is there but to fight back? >>>> >>>> Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. >>> >>>You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >>>has gone beyond creepy. >> >> you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. >> >>>I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. >> >> sure you will. > >Without us Will is even less than the nothing he already is. >I'm his biggest promoter. > >heh indeed. as i've said, he's not fighting us, he's fighting against reality. your comments yesterday as to the reason for his being here (he doesn't hear the laughing in usenet) were pretty dead on. so, we'll see. most sincerely, GodBuilt -- ----------------------------------------------- "I like to drink, I like to drive, I like to think all of the Jews got out of the Holocaust alive, my name is Mel, and can't you tell, I like Tequila!" Denis Leary |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:09:29 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
wrote: > In article <pan.2007.04.27.17.51.01.330753@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow > says... >> >>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:58 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >>wrote: >> >>> In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says... >>>> >>>>kat2 wrote >>>>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>>>> >"baloney" wrote: >>>>> >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > >> Your prediction: >>>>> > >>>>> > > >> Will Dockery will die of: >>>>> > >>>>> > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >>>>are ugly. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>>>> > >>>>> > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>>>> > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>>>> > >>>>> I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >>>>me. >>>> >>>>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. >>> >>> what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your >>> own such death wishes. >>> >>>>> > What other option is there but to fight back? >>>>> >>>>> Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. >>>> >>>>You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >>>>has gone beyond creepy. >>> >>> you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. >>> >>>>I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. >>> >>> sure you will. >> >>Without us Will is even less than the nothing he already is. >>I'm his biggest promoter. >> >>heh > > indeed. as i've said, he's not fighting us, he's fighting against reality. your > comments yesterday as to the reason for his being here (he doesn't hear the > laughing in usenet) were pretty dead on. No he's not fighting us as people, he's fighting us as the harbingers of reality. -- #1 Offishul Ruiner of Usenet, March 2007 #1 Usenet Asshole, March 2007 #1 Bartlo Pset, March 13-24 2007 #10 Most hated Usenetizen of all time Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004 COOSN-266-06-25794 |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
In article <pan.2007.04.27.18.34.13.378860@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow
says... > >On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:09:29 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >wrote: > >>In article <pan.2007.04.27.17.51.01.330753@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow >> says... >>> >>>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:58 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >>>wrote: >>> >>>>In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says... >>>>> >>>>>kat2 wrote >>>>>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>>>>> >"baloney" wrote: >>>>>> >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >> Your prediction: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >> Will Dockery will die of: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >>>>>are ugly. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>>>>> > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>>>>> > >>>>>>I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >>>>>me. >>>>> >>>>>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. >>>> >>>>what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your >>>> own such death wishes. >>>> >>>>>> > What other option is there but to fight back? >>>>>> >>>>>> Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. >>>>> >>>>>You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >>>>>has gone beyond creepy. >>>> >>>> you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. >>>> >>>>>I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. >>>> >>>> sure you will. >>> >>>Without us Will is even less than the nothing he already is. >>>I'm his biggest promoter. >>> >>>heh >> >>indeed. as i've said, he's not fighting us, he's fighting against reality. your >> comments yesterday as to the reason for his being here (he doesn't hear the >> laughing in usenet) were pretty dead on. > >No he's not fighting us as people, he's fighting us as the harbingers of >reality. HEY! would that be a really good/bad garage band name, The Harbingers of Reality! heh. close to the name of the band i was in in college (we played once!  ) calledHarbingers of the Hereafter. ahhh, youth! most sincerely, GodBuilt -- ----------------------------------------------- "I like to drink, I like to drive, I like to think all of the Jews got out of the Holocaust alive, my name is Mel, and can't you tell, I like Tequila!" Denis Leary |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@knology.net> wrote in message news:895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET... > kat2 wrote > >On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: > > >"baloney" wrote: > > >>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: > > > > > > > >> Your prediction: > > > > > > > >> Will Dockery will die of: > > > > > > > > How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys > are ugly. > > > > > > > > I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. > > > > > > The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of > > > what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". > > > > > I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts > me. > > A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. A coin tossed into a fountain is a wish. A post on Usenet is just a post. |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built wrote:
> In article <pan.2007.04.27.18.34.13.378860@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow > says... > >>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:09:29 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >>wrote: >> >> >>>In article <pan.2007.04.27.17.51.01.330753@nntp.sun-meatplow.local>, Meat Plow >>>says... >>> >>>>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:58 -0700, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says... >>>>> >>>>>>kat2 wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"baloney" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Your prediction: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Will Dockery will die of: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >>>>>> >>>>>>are ugly. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>>>>>>>what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff disgusts >>>>>> >>>>>>me. >>>>>> >>>>>>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. >>>>> >>>>>what desires others might have to see you dead are certainly exceeded by your >>>>>own such death wishes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>What other option is there but to fight back? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Post your links, answer civil replies and leave the garbage alone. >>>>>> >>>>>>You're right, I need to step back from these nutjobs... the whole situation >>>>>>has gone beyond creepy. >>>>> >>>>>you'll forget this 1 minute, 17 seconds after you post this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'll work on it, and skip a few dozen posts today... heh. >>>>> >>>>>sure you will. >>>> >>>>Without us Will is even less than the nothing he already is. >>>>I'm his biggest promoter. >>>> >>>>heh >>> >>>indeed. as i've said, he's not fighting us, he's fighting against reality. your >>>comments yesterday as to the reason for his being here (he doesn't hear the >>>laughing in usenet) were pretty dead on. >> >>No he's not fighting us as people, he's fighting us as the harbingers of >>reality. > > > HEY! would that be a really good/bad garage band name, The Harbingers of > Reality! Are they related to the Harbingers of Columbus? > > heh. > > close to the name of the band i was in in college (we played once! ) called> Harbingers of the Hereafter. > > ahhh, youth! > > most sincerely, > > GodBuilt > > -- -------(m+ ~/  )_|I do not "negotiate" for half my baby back, Solomon. http://scrawlmark.org |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
Orson Wells as CitizenCain wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will.dockery@knology.net> wrote in message > news:895e7$463224fd$18d62320$21402@KNOLOGY.NET... > >>kat2 wrote >> >>>On Apr 26, 3:21 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote: >>> >>>>"baloney" wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>Your prediction: >>>> >>>>>>>Will Dockery will die of: >>>> >>>>>>How about heart failure in his late eighties. Sheesh, you guys >> >>are ugly. >> >>>>>>I wish all of you a long life and an easy death. >>>> >>>>The participants in this thread are having an interesting case of >>>>what Stuart might call "mass schadenfreude". >>>> >>> >>>I must admit some of the folly is funny, but the death wish stuff > > disgusts > >>me. >> >>A pretty strange feeling, yeah, all these people openly wishing me dead. > > > > A coin tossed into a fountain is a wish. > A post on Usenet is just a post. > Sometimes a Dockery is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke. -- -------(m+ ~/ )_|I do not "negotiate" for half my baby back, Solomon. http://scrawlmark.org |
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Re: The Will Dockery Death List
"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote: > > Sometimes a Dockery is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke. Heh... if you say so. -- Will Dockery links: Shadowville All-Stars: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars Will Dockery: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
On May 5, 10:56 am, "Renay" wrote:
> "Amadeus Jinn" wrote: >>"Will Dockery" wrote: > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, > >> took it and posted it on her blog: > > > Except unlike me, she took it down when you asked. > > No DMCA, no lawsuit... etc. > > just so we're clear, this is not how it happened. > > I took it down about 6 hours after I put it up. But the cached page exists, thanks to the place /you/ posted it, not me. You posted the art to blogger.com, and they made the cache... I had nothing to do with any of that... showing my art which you posted without my permission and without the credit I requested: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...20/compare.jpg > the only reason the cached page is showing up > now is because Because blogger.com keeps a record of what is posted... what /you/ posted. You have no right to post my art, and, once again, I ask you to take it offline. -- "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
Previously on /Law and Order: RAP/
<doonk> <doonk> Orson Wells as CitizenCain wrote: > "Will Dockery" <will.dockery@knology.net> wrote in message > news:e85cc$463cc8d5$18d62320$6440@KNOLOGY.NET... > >> >>Seems like there should be a section somewhere dealing with it, plagiarism >>being the main thing copyright law is designed to protect against. > > > Why are you so stupid? > He's living proof that God /has/ Built a moron so stupid that even He can't teach it anything. -- -------(m+ ~/ )_|I do not "negotiate" for half my baby back, Solomon. http://scrawlmark.org |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1178441463.850678.235530@u30g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com... <...> I'm done having this exchange with you online. Renay |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
On May 6, 4:51 am, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 5, 10:56 am, "Renay" wrote: > > > "Amadeus Jinn" wrote: > >>"Will Dockery" wrote: > > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, > > >> took it and posted it on her blog: > > > > Except unlike me, she took it down when you asked. > > > No DMCA, no lawsuit... etc. > > > just so we're clear, this is not how it happened. > > > I took it down about 6 hours after I put it up. > > But the cached page exists, thanks to the place /you/ posted it, not > me. > > You posted the art to blogger.com, and they made the cache... I had > nothing to do with any of that... showing my art which you posted > without my permission and without the credit I requested: > > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...20/compare.jpg > > > the only reason the cached page is showing up > > now is because > > Because blogger.com keeps a record of what is posted... what /you/ > posted. > > You have no right to post my art, and, once again, I ask you to take > it offline. > > -- > "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck:http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars > > "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery You posted the art to blogger.com, and they made the cache... I had nothing to do with any of that... showing my art which you posted without my permission and without the credit I requested: This makes no sense Doc, "without the credit I requested" implies permission was given. H_G |
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Re: "Shadowy Seedwaste Boys" by GooberDuck-Fouler
Goober Duck Will "Bad Talent Hack" Dockery quacked:
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>"Will Dockery" wrote: > > >> >I meant in general, copyright theft and plagiarism is wrong, not > >> >specifically your thing with Karla. > >> > > >> I don't know... > >> I think posting any poem on Usenet is legal enough. > >> I think plagiarism is a way poets flatter themselves. > >> > > >> > Posting the poem /with credit/ to the writer is one thing, > >> > >> "Attribution" is part of any copyright contract, but isn't > >> part of copyright law. (don't think) > >> > >> Either you infringed a "literary work" or you didn't. > >> > >> Certainly nice, and I think I do... sometimes abbreviated. > >> > >> > posting a poem > >> > without credit, misleading people to think someone else other than the > >> > actual creator wrote it is another, and can be considered plagiarism. > >> > >> Another term that isn't found in copyright law. > > > > Really? > > It occurs on 4 pages of copyright.gov. > All mentions are /in passing/. > > "Attribution" is the word: > http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#106a > > Here is the section on "fair use" -- which my posting clearly falls into. > http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html This should be an interesting section since everything here so often gets into what is and isn't "fair use." > > Seems like there should be a section somewhere dealing with it, plagiarism > > being the main thing copyright law is designed to protect against. > > No... Copyright law was created to protect the commercial interests > of copyright holders. > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, took > >> it and posted it on her blog: > >> >> > >> >> Except unlike me, she took it down when you asked. No DMCA, no > > lawsuit... etc. No reason for a lawsuit since the simple solution is either Renay can (if possible) have the cached image deleted from blogger.com's files, or since both my art (by her choice, not mine) and hers exist side by side on the page, we share ownership of the drawings: I own my half, she owns hers. > >> > She took the actual blogsite down, but didn't completely delete the work: > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...20/compare.jpg > > >>> Without credit (which is one thing I noted at first with your use of > > Karla's "April", that a credit line for her would have been appropriate "in my > >> opinion.") and without my permission. > >> > >> I was very clear with Renay that if she used my art for her "presentation" > >> that she credit me and "spell my name correctly", both of which she failed to do. > >> >> > >> >> Ummm... you can't sue her, so what will you do? > >> > > >> > Just what I've done, ask her to take my art that she used without my > >> > permission offline... which the blogsite should be able to do. > >> > >> May not be them. But contacting them is better than whining > >> on Usenet about another $0 case. Honestly, Will. > > > > I suppose Renay has looked into getting the material deleted from the > > blogsite's records by now... probably just a matter of her signing in and > > then going to the .jpg then wiping it out. > > > > Or Renay having whoever created the blogsite for her to have the > > infringement of my art deleted. > > Seems like Renay is cooperating. > I didn't. Although the whole thing was Renay's idea and she posted my art without the requested credit (and because of this I withdrew approval for the thing), she continues to grandstand on the idea that it was /she/ who was wronged. Hmmm... looking at all this in the archives, it turns out that Renay admitted at the time that she planned (and in fact, did) to post the art anyway, with or without my permission, and without even considering giving me the requested credit (and of course not spelling my name correctly): "*whew* good thing you said okay cuz I just accidentally posted a private reply to the whole newsgroup. my bad." -Renay Jan 23 2006 12:04 am The fact remains that Renay did not have the right to use my art on her blog, and seems unwilling or unable to remove it... and since I own my creation she violated my /statutory/ copyright (since it was never registered) by posting it. -- "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery > >> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In. > >> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE, > >> Usenet Porn.) |
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Re: "Shadowy Seedwaste Boys" by GooberDuck-Fouler
Goober Duck Will "Bad Talent Hack" Dockery quacked:
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Haiku_guy" wrote: >"Will Dockery" wrote: > > > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, > > > >> took it and posted it on her blog: > > > > > > Except unlike me, she took it down when you asked. > > > > No DMCA, no lawsuit... etc. > > > > > just so we're clear, this is not how it happened. > > > > > I took it down about 6 hours after I put it up. > > > > But the cached page exists, thanks to the place /you/ posted it, not > > me. > > > > You posted the art to blogger.com, and they made the cache... I had > > nothing to do with any of that... showing my art which you posted > > without my permission and without the credit I requested: > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...20/compare.jpg > > > > the only reason the cached page is showing up now is because > > > > Because blogger.com keeps a record of what is posted... what /you/ posted. > > > > You have no right to post my art, and, once again, I ask you to take it offline. > > > You posted the art to blogger.com, and they made the cache... I had > nothing to do with any of that... showing my art which you posted > without my permission and without the credit I requested: > > This makes no sense Doc, "without the credit I requested" implies > permission was given. Credit (and knowing Renay's goofy habits with name games) was a /condition/ for giving permission (not asking for pay, for example) and should have been a given, anyhow... she's supposedly smart enough to know that credit where due is important. But as the quote I found this morning from Renay shows, she had intended to "accidentally" post the piece and link to it here anyhow: " *whew* good thing you said okay cuz I just accidentally posted a private reply to the whole newsgroup. my bad." -Renay on Jan 23 2006 12:04 am admits that she planned to post my art with or without permission. -- "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@knology.net> wrote in message news:a0fca$463ded0a$18d62320$19457@KNOLOGY.NET... > "Amadeus Jinn" wrote: >>"Will Dockery" wrote: >> >> >> >I meant in general, copyright theft and plagiarism is wrong, not >> >> >specifically your thing with Karla. >> >> > >> >> I don't know... >> >> I think posting any poem on Usenet is legal enough. >> >> I think plagiarism is a way poets flatter themselves. >> >> > >> >> > Posting the poem /with credit/ to the writer is one thing, >> >> >> >> "Attribution" is part of any copyright contract, but isn't >> >> part of copyright law. (don't think) >> >> >> >> Either you infringed a "literary work" or you didn't. >> >> >> >> Certainly nice, and I think I do... sometimes abbreviated. >> >> >> >> > posting a poem >> >> > without credit, misleading people to think someone else other than > the >> >> > actual creator wrote it is another, and can be considered plagiarism. >> >> >> >> Another term that isn't found in copyright law. >> > >> > Really? >> >> It occurs on 4 pages of copyright.gov. >> All mentions are /in passing/. >> >> "Attribution" is the word: >> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#106a >> >> Here is the section on "fair use" -- which my posting clearly falls into. >> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html > > This should be an interesting section since everything here so often gets > into what is and isn't "fair use." > >> > Seems like there should be a section somewhere dealing with it, > plagiarism >> > being the main thing copyright law is designed to protect against. >> >> No... Copyright law was created to protect the commercial interests >> of copyright holders. >> >> >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, > took >> >> it and posted it on her blog: >> >> >> >> >> >> Except unlike me, she took it down when you asked. No DMCA, no >> > lawsuit... etc. > > No reason for a lawsuit since the simple solution is either Renay can (if > possible) have the cached image deleted from blogger.com's files, or since > both my art (by her choice, not mine) and hers exist side by side on the > page, we share ownership of the drawings: I own my half, she owns hers. > >> >> > She took the actual blogsite down, but didn't completely delete the > work: >> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...20/compare.jpg >> >> >>> Without credit (which is one thing I noted at first with your use of >> > Karla's "April", that a credit line for her would have been appropriate > "in my >> >> opinion.") and without my permission. >> >> >> >> I was very clear with Renay that if she used my art for her > "presentation" >> >> that she credit me and "spell my name correctly", both of which she > failed to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ummm... you can't sue her, so what will you do? >> >> > >> >> > Just what I've done, ask her to take my art that she used without my >> >> > permission offline... which the blogsite should be able to do. >> >> >> >> May not be them. But contacting them is better than whining >> >> on Usenet about another $0 case. Honestly, Will. >> > >> > I suppose Renay has looked into getting the material deleted from the >> > blogsite's records by now... probably just a matter of her signing in > and >> > then going to the .jpg then wiping it out. >> > >> > Or Renay having whoever created the blogsite for her to have the >> > infringement of my art deleted. >> >> Seems like Renay is cooperating. >> I didn't. > > Although the whole thing was Renay's idea and she posted my art without the > requested credit (and because of this I withdrew approval for the thing), > she continues to grandstand on the idea that it was /she/ who was wronged. > > Hmmm... looking at all this in the archives, it turns out that Renay > admitted at the time that she planned (and in fact, did) to post the art > anyway, with or without my permission, and without even considering giving > me the requested credit (and of course not spelling my name correctly): Yeah, I say Renay's art, and your doodle. I know your names. > > "*whew* good thing you said okay cuz > I just accidentally posted a private reply > to the whole newsgroup. my bad." > -Renay Jan 23 2006 12:04 am > > The fact remains that Renay did not have the right to use my art on her > blog, and seems unwilling or unable to remove it... and since I own my > creation she violated my /statutory/ copyright (since it was never > registered) by posting it. (what are you talking about?) You are bothering me with your idiotic, pissant discussion of your complete lack of a brain. (in spite of being told, several times) I'll killfile you now. You had your chance, God, but you are beyond tedious in your stumbling attempt to make a fool of yourself. "If you can't sue, then ask nicely in email. DON'T BOTHER/BORE SEVERAL NEWSGROUPS WITH YOUR OT IDIOCY." -- ------------------------------------------- AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In. (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE, Usenet Porn.) > > -- > "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars > > "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery > >> >> AJ - http://ClitIns.Com e In. >> >> (800 folders. -- kiddie-filtered -- FREE, >> >> Usenet Porn.) > > |
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Re: "Shadowy Seedwaste Boys" by GooberDuck-Fouler
Mousy Tom "Bitter Moron" Bishop squeaked:
> Goober Duck Will "Bad Talent Hack" Dockery quacked: [ Duck's monotonous quacking snipped. ] > You are bothering me with your idiotic, pissant discussion of your > complete lack of a brain. (in spite of being told, several times) > > I'll killfile you now. You had your chance, God, but you are beyond > tedious in your stumbling attempt to make a fool of yourself. > > "If you can't sue, then ask nicely in email. DON'T BOTHER/BORE > SEVERAL NEWSGROUPS WITH YOUR OT IDIOCY." Damn, Mousy! I do believe you've just dented Duck's pecker-pellets. -- Cm~ "Friends are overrated, Jack." - Goober Duck, 24 Jan 2007 |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Amadeus Jinn" wrote:
>"Will Dockery" wrote: > > >> No... Copyright law was created to protect the commercial interests > >> of copyright holders. No, it was created to protect the /creator/ from copyright theft... I don't see how you think you can change this fact. >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, took >> The simple solution is either Renay can (if > > possible) have the cached image deleted from blogger.com's files, or since > > both my art (by her choice, not mine) and hers exist side by side on the > > page, we share ownership of the drawings: I own my half, she owns hers. >> She took the actual blogsite down, but didn't completely delete the work. >> Without credit (which is one thing I noted at first with your use of >> Karla's "April", that a credit line for her would have been appropriate "in my >> opinion.") and without my permission. >> I was very clear with Renay that if she used my art for her "presentation" >> that she credit me and "spell my name correctly", both of which she failed to do. > > Although the whole thing was Renay's idea and she posted my art without the > > requested credit (and because of this I withdrew approval for the thing), > > she continues to grandstand on the idea that it was /she/ who was wronged. > > > > Hmmm... looking at all this in the archives, it turns out that Renay > > admitted at the time that she planned (and in fact, did) to post the art > > anyway, with or without my permission, and without even considering giving > > me the requested credit (and of course not spelling my name correctly): > > I know your names. Sure, you and the regulars on Usenet know our names, but Renay posted my art on the /internet/ on what now looks like a permanently archived cache, uncredited and without my permission, where many millions don't know either of our names. > > "*whew* good thing you said okay cuz > > I just accidentally posted a private reply > > to the whole newsgroup. my bad." > > -Renay Jan 23 2006 12:04 am > > > > The fact remains that Renay did not have the right to use my art on her > > blog, and seems unwilling or unable to remove it... and since I own my > > creation she violated my /statutory/ copyright (since it was never registered) by posting it. > > (what are you talking about?) > > You are bothering me Well don't bother, then... -- "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
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Re: "Shadowville Smack The Shit Out Of Dockery Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@knology.net> wrote in message news:28c8d$463f0eaf$18d62320$10283@KNOLOGY.NET... > "Amadeus Jinn" wrote: > >"Will Dockery" wrote: > > > > >> No... Copyright law was created to protect the commercial interests > > >> of copyright holders. > > No, it was created to protect the /creator/ from copyright theft... I don't > see how you think you can change this fact. > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art, > took > >> The simple solution is either Renay can (if > > > possible) have the cached image deleted from blogger.com's files, or > since > > > both my art (by her choice, not mine) and hers exist side by side on the > > > page, we share ownership of the drawings: I own my half, she owns hers. > >> She took the actual blogsite down, but didn't completely delete the work. > >> Without credit (which is one thing I noted at first with your use of > >> Karla's "April", that a credit line for her would have been appropriate > "in my > >> opinion.") and without my permission. > >> I was very clear with Renay that if she used my art for her > "presentation" > >> that she credit me and "spell my name correctly", both of which she > failed to do. > > > Although the whole thing was Renay's idea and she posted my art without > the > > > requested credit (and because of this I withdrew approval for the > thing), > > > she continues to grandstand on the idea that it was /she/ who was > wronged. > > > > > > Hmmm... looking at all this in the archives, it turns out that Renay > > > admitted at the time that she planned (and in fact, did) to post the art > > > anyway, with or without my permission, and without even considering > giving > > > me the requested credit (and of course not spelling my name correctly): > > > > I know your names. > > Sure, you and the regulars on Usenet know our names, but Renay posted my art > on the /internet/ on what now looks like a permanently archived cache, > uncredited and without my permission, where many millions don't know either > of our names. Dumb. Doofus. Dweeb. Dork. Delusional. All this and the letter "D" : The autobiography of Will Dockery > > > > "*whew* good thing you said okay cuz > > > I just accidentally posted a private reply > > > to the whole newsgroup. my bad." > > > -Renay Jan 23 2006 12:04 am > > > > > > The fact remains that Renay did not have the right to use my art on her > > > blog, and seems unwilling or unable to remove it... and since I own my > > > creation she violated my /statutory/ copyright (since it was never > registered) by posting it. > > > > (what are you talking about?) > > > > You are bothering me > > Well don't bother, then... > > -- > "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars > > "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery > > |
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Re: "Shadowville Speedway Blues" by Dockery-Fowler
On May 7, 10:03 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote > > "Amadeus Jinn" wrote: > > >"Will Dockery" wrote: > > > > >> No... Copyright law was created to protect the commercial interests > > > >> of copyright holders. > > > No, it was created to protect the /creator/ from copyright theft... I > don't see how you think you can change this fact. > > > >> Interesting that Renay did almost exactly the same thing with my art > > >> The simple solution is either Renay can (if > > > > possible) have the cached image deleted from blogger.com's files, or > > since both my art (by her choice, not mine) and hers exist side by side on > the page, we share ownership of the drawings: I own my half, she owns > hers. > > >> She took the actual blogsite down, but didn't completely delete the > work. Without credit (which is one thing I noted at first with your use of > > >> Karla's "April", that a credit line for her would have been appropriate > > "in my opinion.") and without my permission. > > >> I was very clear with Renay that if she used my art for her > > "presentation" that she credit me and "spell my name correctly", both of which she failed to do. > > > > Although the whole thing was Renay's idea and she posted my art > without the requested credit (and because of this I withdrew approval for the > > thing), > > > > she continues to grandstand on the idea that it was /she/ who was > > wronged. > > > > > Hmmm... looking at all this in the archives, it turns out that Renay > > > > admitted at the time that she planned (and in fact, did) to post the > art > > > > anyway, with or without my permission, and without even considering > > giving > > > > me the requested credit (and of course not spelling my name > correctly): > > > > I know your names. > > > Sure, you and the regulars on Usenet know our names, but Renay posted my > art > > on the /internet/ on what now looks like a permanently archived cache, > > uncredited and without my permission, where many millions don't know > either > > of our names. > > The autobiography of Will Dockery Archived on Usenet...heh > > > > "*whew* good thing you said okay cuz > > > > I just accidentally posted a private reply > > > > to the whole newsgroup. my bad." > > > > -Renay Jan 23 2006 12:04 am > > > > > The fact remains that Renay did not have the right to use my art on > her > > > > blog, and seems unwilling or unable to remove it... and since I own my > > > > creation she violated my /statutory/ copyright (since it was never > > registered) by posting it. -- "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Dockery-Mallard-Beck: http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars "Wobble" by Dockery-Conley: http://www.myspace.com/willdockery |
