Re: Vestibular Disease Help Please!

HOWEDY paul,

Paul Westwell wrote:
> "Janni Cone" <JC@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:rTFte.46583$Kw.784318@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
>
> Janni,
>
> Thanks for the response,

Your pal jannie's dog GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, paul.

> this is reassuring

INDEED?

> and your description is perfect...

Of curse...

> I can relate to so many things you talk about!

You mean, like the dog flippin like a fish HOWETA watter
when you pick IT up on accHOWENT of he's in a PAINCK.

<snip>

> The scary thing for me is when I pick her
> up and she turns into an alligator,

You mean, she bites like a alligator and flips
arHOWEND like a fish HOWETA water when you pick
IT up, paul.

> I try to avoid this but she sometimes needs help getting
> over the step when going to/from the garden, this is obviously
> distressing for her also.

Your dog has STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. We don't know HOWE COME
your dog GOT STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, but
we DO KNOW HOWE COME your punk thug coward mental case
pal janie's dog GOT IT on accHOWENT of it's IN HER OWN
POSTED CASE HISTORY, paul...

> I did try lifting her front paws over the step by
> putting my hands underneath them with some success.
> Sandy can go up the staircase but cannot get down,
> we are keeping her away from those for now as the
> experience of carrying her down is not nice.

INDEED? THAT'S on accHOWENT of SHE DON'T TRUST YOU, paul.

> I'd love to keep in touch if we can and compare notes,

Oh please post to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Forums, paul,
your posted case history will heelp someWON else avoid the
same PROBLEM you an your pal jannie got.

> I really appreciate you reply.

LikeWIZE.

> You can contact me at pw@westwell.nospam.me.uk
> and remove the nospam.

You mean, like THIS?: pw@westwellme.uk

> Regards,

LikeWIZE.

> Paul

Here's HOWE COME your pal jannie's dogs are DYIN from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
SYNDROME <{); ~ ) >

Newsgroups: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull
From: "jc" <j...@invalid.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:57:50 -0700
Subject: Re: New pup

well, with "hard" breeds in particular, i prefer not going
straight into alpha bites with the 8 weekers.

with a pup that young, i briefly cover the muzzle with a
firm hand and say "no bites".

then i temporarily remove myself from their entertainment.
repeat as often--sometimes dozens of times a day--for a month.
with no success, i would then consider alpha roll, scruff
shake with "little feet" dangling in the air, or ear nip and
then brief time-out isolation from me. good luck nipping it
in the bud, so to speak. j

From: "jc" <j...@invalid.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:47:53 -0700
Subject: BigAl and any others with crystal ball gazing--males fighting

oh, big al,

what a nightmare! prob. is too late to neuter and expect them
to mellow at all. brain completely testosterone hardwired now.

God love you, what in the world made you optimistic enough to
think you could keep the two boys as pals?

i've had 30 years of living with 4 or more dom. breeds
simultaneously and successfully. however, i was a total
"bambi in the woods--pollyanna" regarding the pit breeds.

thought i could pull it off. my story below--may help others
and hopefully, others may help you and i.

i identify, as i started fostering two litter boys 6 wks ago-
-16 wks old now. the litter was found in a dumpster at 3 wks
old, hand reared and vet tech loved, but they kept them all
seperated after 6 wks.

pit littermates have been known to try to kill each other....sigh.

anyway, these boys were neutered at 12 wks--thank God--and
i put them together as soon as i got them home. a little
hairy, but only for a couple days. now they pile on us or
each other to snooze. however, since their play can get
rudely intense, but easily broken with mild intervention
from me--"boys, boys, boys" does it so far.

i'm terrified that if we can't place at least one,
they will have to be separated as they reach maturity-
-whenever we can't watch them.

don't look forward to that prospect at all. we love them both,
but based on the breed type--chances are strong that they will
tend to fight as adults. we also have a g.shep male rescue-
-neutered as adult and a spayed rottie/shep mix rescue.

for all i know, while extremely submissive with the big
dogs now, they may big time challenge them in the future.

we'll--looks like we both have our problems. me, because i've
never had pits before and plead abject stupidity. but, you!
my goodness, you certainly look at the world with the "glass
half full".

what i see now, with some pit reading and experience under
my belt, what i see is "a broken glass and a bunch of sharp
glass shards".

good luck to both of us. j

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YourDoggysMomma@HushMail.Com	Re: Vestibular Disease Help Please! HOWEDY paul, Paul Westwell wrote: > "Janni Cone" <JC@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:rTFte.46583$Kw.784318@twister.southeast.rr.co m... > > Janni, > > Thanks for the response, Your pal jannie's dog GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, paul. > this is reassuring INDEED? > and your description is perfect... Of curse... > I can relate to so many things you talk about! You mean, like the dog flippin like a fish HOWETA watter when you pick IT up on accHOWENT of he's in a PAINCK. <snip> > The scary thing for me is when I pick her > up and she turns into an alligator, You mean, she bites like a alligator and flips arHOWEND like a fish HOWETA water when you pick IT up, paul. > I try to avoid this but she sometimes needs help getting > over the step when going to/from the garden, this is obviously > distressing for her also. Your dog has STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. We don't know HOWE COME your dog GOT STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, but we DO KNOW HOWE COME your punk thug coward mental case pal janie's dog GOT IT on accHOWENT of it's IN HER OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY, paul... > I did try lifting her front paws over the step by > putting my hands underneath them with some success. > Sandy can go up the staircase but cannot get down, > we are keeping her away from those for now as the > experience of carrying her down is not nice. INDEED? THAT'S on accHOWENT of SHE DON'T TRUST YOU, paul. > I'd love to keep in touch if we can and compare notes, Oh please post to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Forums, paul, your posted case history will heelp someWON else avoid the same PROBLEM you an your pal jannie got. > I really appreciate you reply. LikeWIZE. > You can contact me at pw@westwell.nospam.me.uk > and remove the nospam. You mean, like THIS?: pw@westwellme.uk > Regards, LikeWIZE. > Paul Here's HOWE COME your pal jannie's dogs are DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) > Newsgroups: alt.pets.dogs.pitbull From: "jc" <j...@invalid.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:57:50 -0700 Subject: Re: New pup well, with "hard" breeds in particular, i prefer not going straight into alpha bites with the 8 weekers. with a pup that young, i briefly cover the muzzle with a firm hand and say "no bites". then i temporarily remove myself from their entertainment. repeat as often--sometimes dozens of times a day--for a month. with no success, i would then consider alpha roll, scruff shake with "little feet" dangling in the air, or ear nip and then brief time-out isolation from me. good luck nipping it in the bud, so to speak. j From: "jc" <j...@invalid.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:47:53 -0700 Subject: BigAl and any others with crystal ball gazing--males fighting oh, big al, what a nightmare! prob. is too late to neuter and expect them to mellow at all. brain completely testosterone hardwired now. God love you, what in the world made you optimistic enough to think you could keep the two boys as pals? i've had 30 years of living with 4 or more dom. breeds simultaneously and successfully. however, i was a total "bambi in the woods--pollyanna" regarding the pit breeds. thought i could pull it off. my story below--may help others and hopefully, others may help you and i. i identify, as i started fostering two litter boys 6 wks ago- -16 wks old now. the litter was found in a dumpster at 3 wks old, hand reared and vet tech loved, but they kept them all seperated after 6 wks. pit littermates have been known to try to kill each other....sigh. anyway, these boys were neutered at 12 wks--thank God--and i put them together as soon as i got them home. a little hairy, but only for a couple days. now they pile on us or each other to snooze. however, since their play can get rudely intense, but easily broken with mild intervention from me--"boys, boys, boys" does it so far. i'm terrified that if we can't place at least one, they will have to be separated as they reach maturity- -whenever we can't watch them. don't look forward to that prospect at all. we love them both, but based on the breed type--chances are strong that they will tend to fight as adults. we also have a g.shep male rescue- -neutered as adult and a spayed rottie/shep mix rescue. for all i know, while extremely submissive with the big dogs now, they may big time challenge them in the future. we'll--looks like we both have our problems. me, because i've never had pits before and plead abject stupidity. but, you! my goodness, you certainly look at the world with the "glass half full". what i see now, with some pit reading and experience under my belt, what i see is "a broken glass and a bunch of sharp glass shards". good luck to both of us. j