Re: Training a Lab Pup

HOWEDY sheri,

"Sheri" <whistlendixie49@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Krantz" <mikek@ethos.net> wrote in message
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>
> > Good; only constructive responses can help me or the pup.

BEWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Won't be gettin none of that here from HOWER dog lovers.

> > Bad; not writing constructive responses helps neither
> > me nor the pup.

That's all you'll get from HOWER lying dog abusing
Punk Thug Cowards.

> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Mike Krantz
> > mikek@ethos.net
> >
> MIKE,
>
> KrisHur and JIBoss

HURT and KILL dogs and call that, training. Look
at nessa's DILEMMA. She's GETTIN RID of the
two dogs janet "trained" for her cause they're
HOWETA CONTROL as they've always been.

> probably didn't tell you what you wanted to hear,

Because THEY GOT NO METHOD other than PAIN
FEAR FORCE and INTIMIDATION and CRATES.

> but please give some thought to what they're saying.

They're LIARS and DOG ABUSERS.

> (I saw you also had something from ThePuppyWizard.

INDEEDY. The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL
NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY INSTANTLY.

> Best always to ignore him!)

INDEEDY!

> The puppy needs to come inside.

That's IDIOCY. The dog needs a few minutes
of apupriate handling and training.

> He needs contact with people,

The dog HAS plenty "contact" with people.

> especially labs who are very friendly dogs,

A dog is a dog, you simpleton.

> if given a chance.

BEWAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

What kinda CHANCES do you want???

> And please don't allow him unsupervised around the pool.

You mean, not till IT is trained.

> A family on a discussion group I belong to recently
> lost their dear puppy to drowning in the family pool.

Well, they shoulda relied on The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

> Your puppy probably wants to drink from
> the pool because it's fresher or cooler water.

So? That's EZ to break, if you know HOWE.

> If you leave him outside alone he will bark,

NO. Dogs bark because of ANXIETY.

> because he's lonely.

NO. Lonely dogs SLEEP.

> My next door neighbor got a beautiful husky a few
> months ago, played with it for a few days then began
> tying him up alone in the back yard, where he cried
> and barked for hours on end.

Well, you offered him all the INFORMATION you had, eh???

> It took another neighbor threatening to kill the dog
> (which I hope was an empty threat) before
> the poor thing was allowed in the house.

Brilliant work!

> I realize your daughter got the puppy and is now
> not there to take care of it.

That's not the problem. The problem is the
dog is UNTRAINED.

> That's frustrating, I know.

No dHOWET.

> (Hey, that's how I got my beagle, Shiloh!)

IOW, YOU GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM!

> But it's not fair to the puppy to abandon him
> when your daughter isn't there.

If the dog is pupperly TRAINED, IT won't FEEL
abandoned when he's got to be left alone.

> Or for her to abandon him when she has
> company, for that matter.

SAME SAME.

> He needs to be socialized.

The dog IS socialized.

> And a muzzle sounds awfully cruel.

Muzzles aren't cruel. STUPIDITY and ARROGANCE are CRUEL.

> Obedience lessons would help him

That so?

> learn not to chew,

Where do they teach THAT, in "obedience?"

> among other things, and would be a good way for the
> puppy and your daughter to bond,

You think jerking and choking the dog on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar or shocking
IT as your pals janet and krisHURT do is gonna
BOND the dog???

> if she took him to obedience school.

Where she'll be taught to lock IT in a box and choke
and shock and spray aversives into his face?

> Good luck with your puppy.

Dog trainin ain't LUCK, you sorry s.o.b.

> Labs are great dogs.

A dog is a dog, you ignoramus.

> And chocolate labs are so beautiful!!

All depends if you like that kinda dog...

> Please give the little guy a chance!!

BEWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

HOWEDY People,

I am Your Puppy Wizard.

Your Puppy Wizard sez "If your "training" methods
are not Compliant With The Genvea Convention
Articles Of War And The U.S. Uniform Code Of
Military Justice, that makes YOU, a CRIMINAL
under U.S. Federal law and international treaties .

The Puppy Wizard intends to get laws passed
PROTECTING dogs and defenseless children
from lying dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards
who HURT dogs and children to train them.

The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >

From: Amanda@DCFWatch.com(Amanda@dcfwatch.com)
Subject: Re: when to start obedience
training classes Date: 2003-01-06 22:14:14 PST

wfdt@msn.com (Lt. Joel Walton, CPDT) wrote in message
news:<cb19da7a.0301061558.7ba5a695@posting.google. com>...
> Start training your puppy now using lure/reward and/or
> clicker training. Do not use any physical punishment.
>
> Find a great puppy class and get started at the earliest
> possible time.
>
> Good luck with your pup.
>
> best, Lt. Joel Walton, CPDT http://www.joelwalton.com Walton
> Family Dog Training LLC aggressive behavior cases
> Washington DC area author of: Positive Puppy Training Works
> Labrador Retrievers for Dummies

I used reward based training with limited results. When my
dog was hungry she obeyed and when she wasn't.. well she did
whatever she wanted. Her behaviours steadily increased to
overly protective tendencies, guarding etc.

She had previously been abused so I knew not to even
attempt any physical punishment. Eventually we had
a hard time walking if another dog was around. She
wouldn't try to escpae my grip, but she would become
very defensive and eventually i would have to sit down
with her and calm her down.

Fast forward to us bringing home a new puppy. She
wouldn't allow him near us. If he tried moving toward
us she bit him. Since he was 5 weeks old I needed an
expert to help me solve this problem and quickly.

Within 5 minutes of an email, Jerry Howe phone me at
home at 10pm on a sunday night. Sunday before christmas
to be exact. I followed his methods.. no punishment, no
scolding, no treats.. just praise and distraction.

Within two days my 20 mo female's milk came in and
she was nursing this pup every two hours or so for about
a half hour.. despite her raw nipples that were cracked and
bleeding.. she would become upset if i took him off of her..
preferring to nurse him.

Despite hearing many bad things about him, personally, and his
methods this dog continues making great strides. for instance
she had nipped my friends daughter for going after my child's
food.. while my child screamed and this lil girl continued
Kelly (my pit/staffy) took it upon herself to nip the child to
get her to leave my child alone.

Highly unacceptable, I phoned Jerry.

We followed his advice/training and today I found
my dog on the floor.. cornered.. being poked in the
eyes and hurt by this lil girl with her only response
being to show her teeth and growl quietly.

Whereas this is most unacceptable in my eyes.. my dog who
would have nipped this child restrained herself.. and when
praised and distracted showed remorse.. knowing she did
improperly.

Then later when this lil girl was bugging her again did not come
close to her. Given that merely a week ago my dog snarled at
this lil girl while she approached the nursing pup, this is
marked improvement.

She now eats in the same area as the same pup she
was biting two weeks ago.. and also lets him eat treats
even when she finishes hers. Previously our nights
were filled with endless barking due to our dog being outside
barking in response to our neighbors dogs.. now a Good girl!

Good dog sends her right into the house to lay down and
ignore them.

Why is this training so advanced and easier than the
reward/clicker methods? Why is jerry's methods giving me
incredible results with minimal effort and no treats/bribes?

Why are you advocating treat training when in reality you are
relying on the dog's desire for a small kibble being stronger
than its desire to run.. and sad to say.. you cannot treat
train when it comes to overly protective tendencies.

I used these methods to the t.. and i did receive results...
she does well at sit, stay, down,speak and shake.. she
knows off and come and git... but it simply came down
to their hunger pains being stronger than their wishes...
and you simply cannot train a dog to not be protective by
food. A good dog will ignore food and protect its pack.

As they should or all a burglar would need is some beggin'
strips.

	#1
The Puppy Wizard	Re: Training a Lab Pup HOWEDY sheri, "Sheri" <whistlendixie49@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:16dc796b.0309011029.772e4fa9@posting.google.c om... > "Michael Krantz" <mikek@ethos.net> wrote in message news:<birjqv$ch7gj$1@ID-205052.news.uni-berlin.de>... > > > Good; only constructive responses can help me or the pup. BEWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Won't be gettin none of that here from HOWER dog lovers. > > Bad; not writing constructive responses helps neither > > me nor the pup. That's all you'll get from HOWER lying dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards. > > -- > > Best regards, > > Mike Krantz > > mikek@ethos.net > > > MIKE, > > KrisHur and JIBoss HURT and KILL dogs and call that, training. Look at nessa's DILEMMA. She's GETTIN RID of the two dogs janet "trained" for her cause they're HOWETA CONTROL as they've always been. > probably didn't tell you what you wanted to hear, Because THEY GOT NO METHOD other than PAIN FEAR FORCE and INTIMIDATION and CRATES. > but please give some thought to what they're saying. They're LIARS and DOG ABUSERS. > (I saw you also had something from ThePuppyWizard. INDEEDY. The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY INSTANTLY. > Best always to ignore him!) INDEEDY! > The puppy needs to come inside. That's IDIOCY. The dog needs a few minutes of apupriate handling and training. > He needs contact with people, The dog HAS plenty "contact" with people. > especially labs who are very friendly dogs, A dog is a dog, you simpleton. > if given a chance. BEWAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! What kinda CHANCES do you want??? > And please don't allow him unsupervised around the pool. You mean, not till IT is trained. > A family on a discussion group I belong to recently > lost their dear puppy to drowning in the family pool. Well, they shoulda relied on The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. > Your puppy probably wants to drink from > the pool because it's fresher or cooler water. So? That's EZ to break, if you know HOWE. > If you leave him outside alone he will bark, NO. Dogs bark because of ANXIETY. > because he's lonely. NO. Lonely dogs SLEEP. > My next door neighbor got a beautiful husky a few > months ago, played with it for a few days then began > tying him up alone in the back yard, where he cried > and barked for hours on end. Well, you offered him all the INFORMATION you had, eh??? > It took another neighbor threatening to kill the dog > (which I hope was an empty threat) before > the poor thing was allowed in the house. Brilliant work! > I realize your daughter got the puppy and is now > not there to take care of it. That's not the problem. The problem is the dog is UNTRAINED. > That's frustrating, I know. No dHOWET. > (Hey, that's how I got my beagle, Shiloh!) IOW, YOU GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM! > But it's not fair to the puppy to abandon him > when your daughter isn't there. If the dog is pupperly TRAINED, IT won't FEEL abandoned when he's got to be left alone. > Or for her to abandon him when she has > company, for that matter. SAME SAME. > He needs to be socialized. The dog IS socialized. > And a muzzle sounds awfully cruel. Muzzles aren't cruel. STUPIDITY and ARROGANCE are CRUEL. > Obedience lessons would help him That so? > learn not to chew, Where do they teach THAT, in "obedience?" > among other things, and would be a good way for the > puppy and your daughter to bond, You think jerking and choking the dog on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or shocking IT as your pals janet and krisHURT do is gonna BOND the dog??? > if she took him to obedience school. Where she'll be taught to lock IT in a box and choke and shock and spray aversives into his face? > Good luck with your puppy. Dog trainin ain't LUCK, you sorry s.o.b. > Labs are great dogs. A dog is a dog, you ignoramus. > And chocolate labs are so beautiful!! All depends if you like that kinda dog... > Please give the little guy a chance!! BEWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! HOWEDY People, I am Your Puppy Wizard. Your Puppy Wizard sez "If your "training" methods are not Compliant With The Genvea Convention Articles Of War And The U.S. Uniform Code Of Military Justice, that makes YOU, a CRIMINAL under U.S. Federal law and international treaties . The Puppy Wizard intends to get laws passed PROTECTING dogs and defenseless children from lying dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards who HURT dogs and children to train them. The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) > From: Amanda@DCFWatch.com(Amanda@dcfwatch.com) Subject: Re: when to start obedience training classes Date: 2003-01-06 22:14:14 PST wfdt@msn.com (Lt. Joel Walton, CPDT) wrote in message news:<cb19da7a.0301061558.7ba5a695@posting.google. com>... > Start training your puppy now using lure/reward and/or > clicker training. Do not use any physical punishment. > > Find a great puppy class and get started at the earliest > possible time. > > Good luck with your pup. > > best, Lt. Joel Walton, CPDT http://www.joelwalton.com Walton > Family Dog Training LLC aggressive behavior cases > Washington DC area author of: Positive Puppy Training Works > Labrador Retrievers for Dummies I used reward based training with limited results. When my dog was hungry she obeyed and when she wasn't.. well she did whatever she wanted. Her behaviours steadily increased to overly protective tendencies, guarding etc. She had previously been abused so I knew not to even attempt any physical punishment. Eventually we had a hard time walking if another dog was around. She wouldn't try to escpae my grip, but she would become very defensive and eventually i would have to sit down with her and calm her down. Fast forward to us bringing home a new puppy. She wouldn't allow him near us. If he tried moving toward us she bit him. Since he was 5 weeks old I needed an expert to help me solve this problem and quickly. Within 5 minutes of an email, Jerry Howe phone me at home at 10pm on a sunday night. Sunday before christmas to be exact. I followed his methods.. no punishment, no scolding, no treats.. just praise and distraction. Within two days my 20 mo female's milk came in and she was nursing this pup every two hours or so for about a half hour.. despite her raw nipples that were cracked and bleeding.. she would become upset if i took him off of her.. preferring to nurse him. Despite hearing many bad things about him, personally, and his methods this dog continues making great strides. for instance she had nipped my friends daughter for going after my child's food.. while my child screamed and this lil girl continued Kelly (my pit/staffy) took it upon herself to nip the child to get her to leave my child alone. Highly unacceptable, I phoned Jerry. We followed his advice/training and today I found my dog on the floor.. cornered.. being poked in the eyes and hurt by this lil girl with her only response being to show her teeth and growl quietly. Whereas this is most unacceptable in my eyes.. my dog who would have nipped this child restrained herself.. and when praised and distracted showed remorse.. knowing she did improperly. Then later when this lil girl was bugging her again did not come close to her. Given that merely a week ago my dog snarled at this lil girl while she approached the nursing pup, this is marked improvement. She now eats in the same area as the same pup she was biting two weeks ago.. and also lets him eat treats even when she finishes hers. Previously our nights were filled with endless barking due to our dog being outside barking in response to our neighbors dogs.. now a Good girl! Good dog sends her right into the house to lay down and ignore them. Why is this training so advanced and easier than the reward/clicker methods? Why is jerry's methods giving me incredible results with minimal effort and no treats/bribes? Why are you advocating treat training when in reality you are relying on the dog's desire for a small kibble being stronger than its desire to run.. and sad to say.. you cannot treat train when it comes to overly protective tendencies. I used these methods to the t.. and i did receive results... she does well at sit, stay, down,speak and shake.. she knows off and come and git... but it simply came down to their hunger pains being stronger than their wishes... and you simply cannot train a dog to not be protective by food. A good dog will ignore food and protect its pack. As they should or all a burglar would need is some beggin' strips.