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HOWEDY robin,

Robin Nuttall wrote:
> scwheaten wrote:
> > Our 1 year old Wheaten Terrier can be so friendly and loving
> > at times and then VICIOUS, aggressive and hyper other times.

> A shock collar would be an extremely bad idea.

That so, robin? The SHOCK COLLAR EXXXPERTS will agree
folks who disdain the value of this teaching TOOL are
UNEDUCATED blowhards who are AFRAID of taking a FIRM
HAND to their dogs, robin. Seems what with all the
EXXXPERT DOG TRAINERS we got RIGHT HERE who VALUE
their SHOCK COLLARS, you and your weasel touch dog
lovers are the UNEDUCATED MASSES, the CAUSE of all
dog temperament and behavior problems, robin <{) ; ~ ) >

> If you add pain to his behaviors,

Shock collars ARE NOT PAINFUL, robin. ASK ANYWON RIGHT HERE.

> you will escalate him.

THAT'S NOT TRUE, robin. Shock collars are ENDORSED by VETERINARIANS
and the HUMANE SOCIETIES, and HOWER EXXXPERSTS RIGHT HERE, robin.

Who are you to tell us otherWIZE?

You can't even train your own dog to complete an agility course
withHOWET backtalkin you, accordin to your video's The Amazing Puppy
Wizard has REVIEWED <{) ; ~ ) >

Yet you DISPARAGE shock collar EXXXPERTS who POST HERE, robin?

LKKE THESE EXXXPERT TRAINERS and DOG LOVERS, robin:



"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.

> Janet Boss

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST

"micha el" <spam_yurs...@spamyourmamma.co**m wrote in message
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Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.

It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com wrote in message
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> how effective are these electronic fences in
> keeping a dog on a property????

Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.

Just hides under a desk in the house.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> After talking with the vet yesterday and watching Cubbe
> all day today I'm convinced that the shaking is behavioral,
> not physical. Naturally I'll continue keeping an eye on
> her,but when I add everything up, I don't see symptoms of
> anything neurological-- and the vet agrees.
> --Lia

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
and ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/pl**ayvi...84B9ABD**FCE0F


or

http://tinyurl.com/389al

In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

> He does not have a split personality,

If a HUMAN was actin like THAT he'd be DIAGNOSED as a SPLIT
PERSONALITY.

> but it does sound like you have some major problems.

NOT AT ALL, robin. The "PROBLEM" is FEAR and MISTRUST, caused
by NOT TAKING a FIRM HAND to this rambunctiHOWES little snot.

> People get Wheatens thinking they are cute and fluffy-

INDEED they ARE, robin.

> -they are very strong,

Not compared to a Scottie or Dane, robin.

> difficult dogs

That's ABSURD, robin. A dog is a dog. Dogs are EZ to
TRAIN if you don't jerk choke shock bribe lock them
in boxes and spray aversives in their faces and ignore
their cries, robin <{) ; ~ ) >

> and NOT for amateur owners.

That's absurd, robin. A DOG IS A DOG <{) ; ~ ) >

> Fortunately the Wheaten Club is a small one and
> very responsive to issues of this sort.

INDEED?

If your Wheaten club was EXXXPRIENCED with THIS PROBLEM,
that MEANS THEY GOT THE SAME PROBLEM for THE SAME REASON,
and PERHAPS they AIN'T the EXXXPERTS to CONsult, eh robin?

> Go here:

<snip link>

> and make some contacts off of the page.

You mean, ask folks who GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, and BLAME
THE BREED, robin? You can't post your IDIOCY here abHOWETS
nodoGgamenedMOORE you freakin simpleton.

> Actually, being as it's a small gene pool,

CITES PLEASE?

We DON'T BLAME the BREED for PROBLEMS caused by ABUSE, robin <{) ; ~ )
>

> I'm surprised your breeder can't help you with these issues.

The BREEDER is the CRETIN who TAUGHT them to lock their dog
in a box and jerk and choke and intimidate bribe and ignore IT,
robin, you dog abusing mental case <{) ; ~ ) >

> You need in person help.

That's not true, robin. All they gotta do is learn HOWE
to teach their dog to TRUST and NOT FEAR them, robin <{) ; ~ ) >

> No one can help you adequately from a newsgroup

Well that's a LIE, robin. The Amazing Puppy Wizard CURES ALL
temperament and behaivor problems from settin right here,
stark ravin nekkid <{) ; ~ ) >

> because we can't see the behaviors.

We ain't got to SEE FEAR AGGRESSION to know the dog is AFRAID
of being ABUSED, robin. ALL temperament and behaivor problems
are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, not BAD DOGS, you freakin dog abusing
mental case <{) ; ~ ) >

> Good luck.

Dog trainin AIN'T LUCK, dog abuser. "Luck is for SUCKERS," The
Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{) ; ~ ) >

All dog behavior problems are caused by mishandling.

Rehabilitating problem dog behavior is EZ if you know HOWE.

The methods taught in The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual GUARANTEE NEAR
INSTANT 100% TOTAL CONTROL without fear, force,
confrontation, or physical restraint.

>From Professora Linda Daniel and Sunshine:

"I Wrote To Purdue And Told Them Their Advice Did Not Work.
If I Had Not Found The Wits End Method I Know There Was No
Hope For Him And He Would Have Hurt Someone And Had To
Be Killed. I Wrote To Purdue And Told Them I Told Them Their
Advice Did Not Work. Sunshine's Still Acting Like A New Dog."

Sunshine is now 100% trustworthy off lead in public and is
about to enjoy doing THERAPY WORK with his nurse owner.
Professora Daniel and Sunshine are going to SUE Purdue
University and dra patricia mcconnel and their trainers for
MALPRACTICE, ANIMAL ABUSE, PUBIC ENDANGERMENT,
and FRAUD.

Everything we've been taught about dog
behavior is DEAD WRONG.

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
> dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.

> I do not know what started the problem but he came
> aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
> snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
> and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
> ad I took him with me everywhere.

> At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
> Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
> clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
> it was not working on his aggression problem.

> I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
> trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.

> They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
> and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
> suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
> working as he was becoming more aggressive.

> I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
> away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
> on the fearful canine.

> I tried another trainer who tried to use a nylon chock
> collar but it only made him worse.

> I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
> ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
> LEASH", ETC looking for help.

> We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal
> Behavior Clinic and they said he had fear aggression,
> punishment would not work, use the gentle leader and
> when out walking and he got stressed have the people
> stop until he could get in control using treats, and
> work on clicker training.

> At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
> the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
> would not come when I called him and would run away
> when I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even
> in the neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog
> and women who hasn't trained her dog"

> I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
> were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
> were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No
> one said I should give up on him and kill him but they
> would say "You have to realize he is dangerous and
> you are responsible for him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

> As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
> going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
> Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
> Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

> He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
> not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
> The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
> I had been working for 18 months!

> Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
> from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
> I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
> blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
> can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

> I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
> -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
> looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
> on by.

> When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
> me like "you must be out of your mind."

> The results can make a believer!!! Three weeks since
> beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
> him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
> many dogs.

> He just seemed to not notice any one.

> When people talked to him or ask his name he would
> look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
> I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
> enjoy life out in public.

> If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
> was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
> Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
> toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

> My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
> dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
> out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

> I know most people would have given up on him a long time
> ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
> but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

> I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

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From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.

From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To: Lindalee
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!


<"Terri"@cyberhighway dogsnuts wrote:
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

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"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message
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I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
I do know she's not here with us.

I really can't blame anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it
because of how you write/wrote.

I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a
shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had
been keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running
off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the
world now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one
who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew
up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time. IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

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misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and
no collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want
to come back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how
to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in
the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop
her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
when we walk around the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I
hate the e-fence and its collars.

If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic
collar to keep my dog in our yard again.

The price was too high:-(

~misty

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"Ted Rumple" <rumplem...@kalbar.net> wrote in message
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Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
created for training dogs is absolutely amazing!

I can't wait until the new version is available for human
children!

Thank you for your service to humanity!

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
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(l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW;~} >
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