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HOWEDY marie,

marie wrote:
> In the last few days I've seen a couple of
> editorial-type cartoons that seem to suggest
> that Wisconsin is encouraging the shooting
> of cats.

Your PALS michael ball an diddler will be THRILLED.

> A couple of quick searches haven't given me
> more info...and the story seems a little wierd
> to me.

Yeah. Perhaps frank morris oughta see if he can
run his HOWEND DOGS on them.

> Anybody know of anything coming out of the
> Cheese State on the subject of hunting,
> cats or the combination therof?

Your PALS MURDER kats, marie.

> Marie

DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

From: diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers Association
Xenia Ohio Feb 15 2002
Newsgroups: alt. animals. furtrapping
Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST

If I can get him away from the Olympics, I'll have him
answer that. He doesn't know how to change the identity on
the computer, so if "I" answer this post... it's really
Jeff. And no.... we went to watch. He sold nothing. btw..
are these "CATS" feral domestic cats? (sorry not familiar
with Oklahoma) (I just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a
couple cats last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
but it wasn't intentional)
--
diddy

BUT IF YOU DO TRAP, DO IT RIGHT (The cat went nuts....
they weren't supposed to go ape, to get themselves in
this situation).

"I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline. This morning there was a cat in a snare.
Ordinarily, an animal caught in a snare can be released
unharmed. One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes
(and the complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals, to
me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they can't
become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area. This cats snarled, and
attacked. Trying to extricate this cat was exceedingly
difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because I feared
damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and the
owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) . It
escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken
to the vet for examination. I will probably never know
if this particular cat survives the experience or not.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have
tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have
been a kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be
attracted to this type of trap, in this position, and then
they weren't supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home."

MOORE FUN W/DIDDY and what DANNY and TAYA (with heelp from
TOBY) did with the Vet's OFFICE KITTEN after they got home
from RUNNING AWAY.

From: diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help. I'm not
saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom
and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been
harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time,
unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.
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"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road
Cheered," diddler.

From: diddy (d...@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

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diddler on fence / perimeter training:

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> We have a beagle. Before we got our last one, we knew what
> to expect and spent a year re-enforcing the fence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside. Wood
> ties under gates. A chicken wire apron extending out into
> the yard 12 inches. (hog ringed to the upright fencing).
> We chose chicken wire because it was flexible and ground
> conforming. grass grows right over it, making it invisible
> and easy to mow over. It's tacked down by tent stakes
> every 10 inches. (this is our most considerable investment)

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
> rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot. We placed tile
> blocks over the top, because the tent stakes stick up, and
> sometimes get hit by the lawnmower.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> Overall, it's a pretty decent system and works MOST of the
> time.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
> fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.
> We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke down
> sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> When the weather breaks, a whole new fence is in order,
> but the system works MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> We did install an underground perimeter E-fence at the fence
> line, and found a single strand 12 inch high electric cattle
> fence around the perimeter was just as effective, cheaper,
> less bothersome (no need to wear heavy e-collars..
> especially that mess up coats), but both needed occassional
> maintenence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I admit our system fails occassionally, especially when snow
> drifts are over the top of the fences and erase any
> identifiable fenceline.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100 foot trolly
> line that crosses the yard.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> This is a safe, effective restraint system that has always
> worked when immediate repairs or extra security is desired.

> If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes to the
> trolly line, whether the containment system is currently
> working or not.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> It's great for emergency situations, and the $17 last resort
> system gets used for the beagle far more than I ever
> expected. It still allows reasonable exercise range of area
> and mobility. The elkhounds and the beagle still play
> avidly, and it's the cheapest piece of mind security ever.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> A trolly tether system is the best for temporary containment
> while discovering where the leak is. In the snow, it's easy
> to discover the leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I do not like, or use our current underground collar system

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> diddy wrote:
> "I admit our system fails occassionally"

BWAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

tell it to the vet's office kitten.

You want failure, check this out...

diddy wrote:

> Perhaps not just rehoming, a FENCED yard would have not
> been too hard for an owner who adores and is dedicated to a
> dog.

Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from unsecured yard and
imbecile owner. Will they survive life out in the wilderness
our amongst the coyote traps? Will they get mistaken for
coyotes and sold to the highest bidder at the fur auction?
Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy do a
demonstration on safe and responsible pet ownership in the
kitchen with the vet's office kitten?

Stay tuned, fans...

From: Kathy Levee (kle...@zoo.uvm.edu)
Subject: Off Topic --MISSING DOGS

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks
Date: 1999/04/14

I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with Disney.
Parks, but since those of us on this newsgroup are from
all over the country, I thought you would understand this
one time intrusion. We are desperate to find these
dogs....Please, if you have any information, contact the
e-mail address at the bottom of the note. Thank you for
your understanding.........

Karyl Parks' dog Danny - Ch. Alpha's Decorum (I think that
is his correct registered name) is missing . For those
that have never met Danny - he is very special. Both
trained for Search and Rescue as well as service dog
trained, CDX, etc. He does all the things that service
dogs do from opening doors, turning on lights, getting
clothes and shoes. He is a marvel. He is nine years old
but does not show his age - he is about 60 pounds 22 1/2
inches, dark face. By tomorrow I will have a picture
available.

Monday night he was put out to do his business along with
Taya another elkie. At 10:00pm - both he and Taya were
gone from Karyl's yard. She heard nothing and the gate
was open but opened inward. Danny was neutered in the last
year so is not of any use to anyone for breeding.

Karyl has handed out over 1,200 flyers today - gone to the
schools where Danny was well known - he did demonstrations,
talked to neighbors

and combed the neighborhood. She lives in farm country
outside Greenville, Ohio.

Danny is a tall elkie - very handsome - microchipped. I
am looking for a picture I took when he visited here two
years ago. He was not wearing a collar when lost. Karyl
will talk to postal workers, garbage truck drivers, county
road crews, meter readers, tomorrow - has already contacted
law enforcement and shelters. Please for anyone in the area
or who can cross post this to other lists do it. This dog
is Karyl's life and she can not imagine life without him.

Taya - also an elkhound her parents dog - spayed female five
years old. Small size - I think only about 18 inches. They
could be together or separate - Taya did have a collar on.
Do not know if she is microchipped.

Karyl's email is kpa...@bright.net

Thank you for your understanding......we're posting this to
every list we are involved with and pray for their safe
return.

Kathy
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DIDDY AND THE DOBERMAN WHO BLED TOO MUCH for her OWN GOOD

> It's explained on the AKC website. And I'm very sorry to
> hear this. I too had a dog that I wanted to finish


Oh, here's one you finished alright, you finished her real
good because she made you late for work after you cut her
ears off.

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:03:37 -0400
From: diddy <d...@nospam.diddy.net>
Organization: bright.net Ohio
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior


> Patch wrote:
> There is a detailed explanation of the pain side of things
> in the report I mentioned to Lone. If I can get the new
> lead for my scanner [hopefully today], would you like me to
> e-mail it to you so you have the veterinary
> view of it ?

..=2E....

If someone crops ears, I feel it's for hygenic methods
as well as aesthetics. I'm not saying cropping is not
painful, taking two dobermans through cropping (one with
von Willebrawns.. and THAT was ugly -- and I finally put her
to sleep at one year old because I kept coming home from
work finding my house in a bloodbath every time I came home
from work, and was told I was going to get fired for
absentee if I continued to miss work in the afternoons after
coming home for lunch, and having to run the dog to the vet.
The mental stress of dealing with such a dog was unreal,
dealing with the unknowns of what she was going to do next
(tear a nail, puncture herself, bruise herself.. the
emergencies she created for herself were unreal)She also
kept catchingher dew claws on things, and I finally had them
removed.
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"diddy" <d...@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message
news:Xns948C7D04EBB68danny@216.196.97.132...

> I loathe that ear cropping is done. On traditionally ear-
> cropped dogs, I LIKE them that way. I wouldn't have a
> doberman any other way. I had two dobermans, and thought
> their ear croppings brutal. i don't consider tail docking
> brutal.
> I prefer men circumcised. I guess that's TMI. If my husband
> suffered from the procedure, he's gotten over it.


WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND ANY CATS TO SHOOT,
SHOOT HUNGRY DOGS INSTEAD FOR GETTING
IN THE GARBAGE

You can't shoot strangle or track straight.

HOWEDY diddler,

d=2...@diddy.net (diddy) wrote in
<3DFD2FC9.F7120...@diddy.net>:

> Wayne wrote:
>> Just curious if these methods are still encouraged;

koehler is recommended by our professor SCRUFF SHAKE
when the dog is too big and too dangerous to scruff shake
noMOORE.

> > I personally could never do it.

Most of our experts are devout koehler fans.

HOWEver, they'll deny they use the painful parts. koehler
warns against that, sez that's HOWE COME people got
to kill their dogs, cause they don't follow the method
EXACTLY. Just like HOWE it sez in your FREE copy
of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

Only difference is, koehler sez you can't STOP hurting,
your FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual sez
you can't even scream NO or scruff shake your dog.

>> Wayne

>There are still some old advocates,

You mean all our expert advisors here on
our dog forums, diddler.

> mostly in the law enforcement and security dog world.

Like yourself, diddler?

Not noMOORE, diddler.

> This method separates the squeamish and soft dogs

Is that so, diddler? What's a SOFT dog, diddler? I never
heard of a soft dog. Are you talkin soft like fat assed and
lazy, like our experts here? Or are you talkin soft like in
out of shape MENTALLY?

Or do you mean to say SOFT dogs that can't take a lot of BEATIN?

> (something that is detrimental in LE)

Is that so, diddler? You mean dogs in security and police and
military work should LIKE being BEATEN? Is that DESIRABLE?

> from those hard dogs that let anything bounce off them

Anything, diddler? You mean like BULLETS? Or do you mean
like TRAINING STICKS and SHOCKING and CHOKING, diddler?

Are you talking about a dog that don't MIND being choked and
shocked and beaten and hung? Is that what you mean by hard
Vs soft dogs, diddler?

> as if it never happened.

Yeah. It never happened, diddler. NOBODY here hurts dogs.
Ask matty. Ask Binaca bethFIST. Ask janet boss. Ask Master
Of Deception blankman and melanie and leah and liea and
professor scruff shake?

> I would hope those training for pet use would not find his
> methods of the 1930's and 40's still logical.

Well, well, well, diddler. I guess you must be a newbie here.
Either that, or you're one of the LYING DOG ABUSING THUG
COWARDS we got here who hurts and kills dogs and LIES
about it, diddler? Naaah. Not YOU. You're even on our kat
forums.

> I shudder reading them,

Do you now, diddler? Some of us CRINGE.

> and thank forward moving trainers for moving us out of the
> dark ages.

Oh, indeedy, diddler. Thank you for supporting pain fear
intimidation and death.

> You would think he hates dogs.

Naah. He's a professional dog trainer, diddler. Most of our
dog lovers here swear by their koehler method for the really
tough dogs. The ones that LIKE to be beaten and HUNG.

Meanwhile, the heel with koehler diddler, we got a worse
scumbag to identify and expose. That be YOU:

diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Oh My God
Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.

She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.

This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)

I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.

Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.

Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain
EVERYTHING.

The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.

Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.

Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
--
diddy