Re: Mini-Schnauzer grooming kit recommendation

HOWEDY Bill,

Bill wrote:
> I groom my mini-schnauzer. I would like to buy a better clipper.
> Any recommendation?

Probably Whal is considered the best but there's probably better.

> Do you buy online?

Of curse.

> I bought a clipper from Wal-Mart for about $20.

It'll probably last at least proportionately as long
as an expensive one but may need lots of sharpening
which might mitigate the cost into the red big time
and the better brand may last nearly forever.

> My dog scared to death when I tried to groom her ears.

Oh. Well THAT ain't the fault of the clipper, that's
a fault of handling. We can condition her to accept
the clipper near her ears in just a few minutes if
you know HOWE <{) ; ~ ) >

> It was too loud and vibrated too much.

That's more a matter of TRUST than NOISE. If
your dog had complete confidence in you he'd
FEAR NUTHIN <{) ; ~ ) >

> I am looking for a quieter one, not vibrating
> too much, and easy to handle.

Not to worry. It's all in the hands. You can't force
your dog to hold still or she'll fight you. You got
to learn HOWE to allHOWE her to evade your treatment
and teach her to RELAX and TRUST YOU. But you can't
do that if you're HOLDING her. Of curse, you DO have
to hold the ear to get the clipper in there, but you
DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THE DOG BY THE EAR, or she'll resist.

There's other conditioning techniques you can learn to
teach her to RELAXXX ON COMMAND using a variety of cues
in succession as taught in your FREE COPY of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?E183232FA

> Other than clipper, do you have any other recommendation
> about the gears to groom a mini-schnauzer?

You mean the # size blades for that job. You should
be able to find that in any book on groomin <{) ; ~ ) >

Make SHORE you spray the blade with oil and keep it cool.
And NEVER try to use bribes to get your dog to stand still.

> Thanks for your help.

From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that maligning
you and your training manual but tell them from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over there
to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him for growling at
me.

I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead. Lo and behold
he stopped growling and I could do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method and
my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten his
enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day. Major break through.
This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids through
the fence. I can now take him in the car with me again without him
trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is Do
No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was diagnosed
aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my side where he
belongs.

Thank you so much.

Kay

=============

From: dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah)
Date: 25 Aug 2002 01:31:09 GMT
Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice

>j...@cornell.invalid wrote:
>I am having a terrible time getting Bandit (7 Mo. BC) to let me clip
his
>nails. He will let me do just about anything else, including massage
his
>paws, but once he sees those clippers- forget it. We have tried the
two
>person method, have put him on a table, used treats but no go. He is
>being snipped next week, so I can have the vet do it, but that only
>solves the immediate situation. Anyone got any ideas? thanks.

I have the same situation with my BC. Instead of getting more at ease
with the
clippers, every time we used them she was more frightened. Then once a

professional groomer tried to clip her nails, and she flipped out -
trembling
with panic.

For some reason, she'll sit still and allow our vet to clip her nails.
She
still looks scared, but not panicked. So I bite the bullet and keep
taking her
there. :}

See My Furry Family At:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/d*ogs0
Madigan's Theme:
"When she was good, she was very, very good
But when she was bad, she was HORRID"

From: "Marie" <m...@rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 02:03:12 GMT
Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice

Macula will not let me clip her nails. Our vet did it once, but it was

expensive and equally traumatizing for her.

But at a Pet Store near us there is a grooming service. $8 (cdn) for a
nail
clipping. She's good (gentle but firm), she's quick, she doesn't
require an
appointment: we go about once a month--start with a nail clipping and
then
into the store proper for a treat. I don't think Macula will ever
*like*
having her nails clipped, but she's getting used to it.

Marie
Meet Macula at http://members.rogers.com/mmcw*/

"Leah" <dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message
news:20020824213109.28515.00002447@mb-mn.aol.com...

> >j...@cornell.invalid wrote:
> >I am having a terrible time getting Bandit (7 Mo. BC) to let me clip
his
> >nails. He will let me do just about anything else, including massage
his
> >paws, but once he sees those clippers- forget it. We have tried the
two
> >person method, have put him on a table, used treats but no go. He is

> >being snipped next week, so I can have the vet do it, but that only
> >solves the immediate situation. Anyone got any ideas? thanks.

> I have the same situation with my BC. Instead of getting more at
ease
> with the clippers, every time we used them she was more frightened.
> Then once a professional groomer tried to clip her nails, and she
flipped
> out - trembling with panic.

> For some reason, she'll sit still and allow our vet to clip her
nails.
> She still looks scared, but not panicked. So I bite the bullet and
keep
> taking her there. :}

> See My Furry Family At:
> http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/d*ogs0
> Madigan's Theme:
> "When she was good, she was very, very good
> But when she was bad, she was HORRID"

From: dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah)
Date: 25 Aug 2002 12:24:18 GMT

Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice

>mlch...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Melanie L Chang) wrote:
>I'm glad neither of my Border Collies is clipper-phobic
>because it would be very difficult to trim their nails otherwise.
>They're not crazy about it, but I'm liberal with the treats so they're

>beginning to think trimming time is pretty cool.

Madigan gets into such a state of panic about nail-trimming that a
filet under
her nose wouldn't get her attention. So for us, the simplest way
(though the
most time-consuming and expensive :} is to go to the vet, where she
magically
becomes Miss Manners and experiences the least amount of stress.

See My Furry Family At:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/d*ogs0
Madigan's Theme:
"When she was good, she was very, very good
But when she was bad, she was HORRID

From: "Karen J. Cravens" <silver+...@phoenyx.net> author
Date: 26 Aug 2002 02:04:26 GMT

Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice

Sadie gets hysterical about it (she *is* the Drama Queen), so I sneak
up
on her when she's relaxed on the couch, clip a claw, and pat her on the

head when she bounces up all surprised. She doesn't have time to get
worked up, so she just gives me a "What just happened?" look and, when
she
realizes that *I'm* unconcerned, goes back to sleep.

Fortunately, she generally only needs *one* claw trimmed at a time...
they
normally stay relatively short, but sometimes the front "pinky" claws
don't for some reason, and once they hit that point, they don't wear
down
on their own, and of course her dewclaws are completely unpredictable.

Both of those outside claws are doing that right now, probably because
the
dogs have been flat for several weeks, so I'll probably clip them
tomorrow. If I had to do all eight (or sixteen!) I'd do a couple a
day,
same way I did when we got her. (They'd been trimmed by the Humane
Society, but still needed it more after the quick had receded some.)

She doesn't particularly like it (she doesn't like having her paws
touched
at all), but it's over so fast that she doesn't react badly.

--
Karen J. Cravens

From: Judy <j...@removethispart.cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:41:43 -0400
Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice

Thanks for all the advice. Since I have some time, I think i will see
if
I can teach bandit some tricks, and then try the clipper desentization
route.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

	#1
It's Only Alimentary, Dear Watson	Re: Mini-Schnauzer grooming kit recommendation HOWEDY Bill, Bill wrote: > I groom my mini-schnauzer. I would like to buy a better clipper. > Any recommendation? Probably Whal is considered the best but there's probably better. > Do you buy online? Of curse. > I bought a clipper from Wal-Mart for about $20. It'll probably last at least proportionately as long as an expensive one but may need lots of sharpening which might mitigate the cost into the red big time and the better brand may last nearly forever. > My dog scared to death when I tried to groom her ears. Oh. Well THAT ain't the fault of the clipper, that's a fault of handling. We can condition her to accept the clipper near her ears in just a few minutes if you know HOWE <{) ; ~ ) > > It was too loud and vibrated too much. That's more a matter of TRUST than NOISE. If your dog had complete confidence in you he'd FEAR NUTHIN <{) ; ~ ) > > I am looking for a quieter one, not vibrating > too much, and easy to handle. Not to worry. It's all in the hands. You can't force your dog to hold still or she'll fight you. You got to learn HOWE to allHOWE her to evade your treatment and teach her to RELAX and TRUST YOU. But you can't do that if you're HOLDING her. Of curse, you DO have to hold the ear to get the clipper in there, but you DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THE DOG BY THE EAR, or she'll resist. There's other conditioning techniques you can learn to teach her to RELAXXX ON COMMAND using a variety of cues in succession as taught in your FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?E183232FA > Other than clipper, do you have any other recommendation > about the gears to groom a mini-schnauzer? You mean the # size blades for that job. You should be able to find that in any book on groomin <{) ; ~ ) > Make SHORE you spray the blade with oil and keep it cool. And NEVER try to use bribes to get your dog to stand still. > Thanks for your help. From: BNTDO...@aol.com To: jho...@bellsouth.net Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized." Dear Jerry, It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that maligning you and your training manual but tell them from me that it does work. Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated putting him down are impressed with him. I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could do his nails. All 4 feet. My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more pleased. He even tried to kiss a child the other day. Major break through. This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield. So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is Do No Harm. The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule. Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my side where he belongs. Thank you so much. Kay ============= From: dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah) Date: 25 Aug 2002 01:31:09 GMT Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice >j...@cornell.invalid wrote: >I am having a terrible time getting Bandit (7 Mo. BC) to let me clip his >nails. He will let me do just about anything else, including massage his >paws, but once he sees those clippers- forget it. We have tried the two >person method, have put him on a table, used treats but no go. He is >being snipped next week, so I can have the vet do it, but that only >solves the immediate situation. Anyone got any ideas? thanks. I have the same situation with my BC. Instead of getting more at ease with the clippers, every time we used them she was more frightened. Then once a professional groomer tried to clip her nails, and she flipped out - trembling with panic. For some reason, she'll sit still and allow our vet to clip her nails. She still looks scared, but not panicked. So I bite the bullet and keep taking her there. :} See My Furry Family At: http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/dogs0 Madigan's Theme: "When she was good, she was very, very good But when she was bad, she was HORRID" From: "Marie" <m...@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 02:03:12 GMT Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice Macula will not let me clip her nails. Our vet did it once, but it was expensive and equally traumatizing for her. But at a Pet Store near us there is a grooming service. $8 (cdn) for a nail clipping. She's good (gentle but firm), she's quick, she doesn't require an appointment: we go about once a month--start with a nail clipping and then into the store proper for a treat. I don't think Macula will ever like* having her nails clipped, but she's getting used to it. Marie Meet Macula at http://members.rogers.com/mmcw/ "Leah" <dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message news:20020824213109.28515.00002447@mb-mn.aol.com... > >j...@cornell.invalid wrote: > >I am having a terrible time getting Bandit (7 Mo. BC) to let me clip his > >nails. He will let me do just about anything else, including massage his > >paws, but once he sees those clippers- forget it. We have tried the two > >person method, have put him on a table, used treats but no go. He is > >being snipped next week, so I can have the vet do it, but that only > >solves the immediate situation. Anyone got any ideas? thanks. > I have the same situation with my BC. Instead of getting more at ease > with the clippers, every time we used them she was more frightened. > Then once a professional groomer tried to clip her nails, and she flipped > out - trembling with panic. > For some reason, she'll sit still and allow our vet to clip her nails. > She still looks scared, but not panicked. So I bite the bullet and keep > taking her there. :} > See My Furry Family At: > http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/dogs0 > Madigan's Theme: > "When she was good, she was very, very good > But when she was bad, she was HORRID" From: dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah) Date: 25 Aug 2002 12:24:18 GMT Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice >mlch...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Melanie L Chang) wrote: >I'm glad neither of my Border Collies is clipper-phobic >because it would be very difficult to trim their nails otherwise. >They're not crazy about it, but I'm liberal with the treats so they're >beginning to think trimming time is pretty cool. Madigan gets into such a state of panic about nail-trimming that a filet under her nose wouldn't get her attention. So for us, the simplest way (though the most time-consuming and expensive :} is to go to the vet, where she magically becomes Miss Manners and experiences the least amount of stress. See My Furry Family At: http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/dogs0 Madigan's Theme: "When she was good, she was very, very good But when she was bad, she was HORRID From: "Karen J. Cravens" <silver+...@phoenyx.net> author Date: 26 Aug 2002 02:04:26 GMT Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice Sadie gets hysterical about it (she is* the Drama Queen), so I sneak up on her when she's relaxed on the couch, clip a claw, and pat her on the head when she bounces up all surprised. She doesn't have time to get worked up, so she just gives me a "What just happened?" look and, when she realizes that I'm unconcerned, goes back to sleep. Fortunately, she generally only needs one claw trimmed at a time... they normally stay relatively short, but sometimes the front "pinky" claws don't for some reason, and once they hit that point, they don't wear down on their own, and of course her dewclaws are completely unpredictable. Both of those outside claws are doing that right now, probably because the dogs have been flat for several weeks, so I'll probably clip them tomorrow. If I had to do all eight (or sixteen!) I'd do a couple a day, same way I did when we got her. (They'd been trimmed by the Humane Society, but still needed it more after the quick had receded some.) She doesn't particularly like it (she doesn't like having her paws touched at all), but it's over so fast that she doesn't react badly. -- Karen J. Cravens From: Judy <j...@removethispart.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:41:43 -0400 Subject: Re: need nail clipping advice Thanks for all the advice. Since I have some time, I think i will see if I can teach bandit some tricks, and then try the clipper desentization route. The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >