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HOWEDY Mick,
Mick wrote: > I have a lively You mean hyperactive. > 2 year old Any three week old puppy got all the brains he needs to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog trainer. > Springer Spaniel A dog is a dog. > and I am having problems training him to walk on a leash, The Amazing Puppy Wizard got a standing $100.00 wager HE can train ANY dog to heel sit and stay in five minutes withHOWET hurtin him. > he is pulling constantly, Dogs pull to ESCAPE being RESTRAINED and CHOKED. > otherwise he is fine. Good. > Does anyone have any tips to train him to walk > comfortably on a leash? You can train him to not pull on lead in abHOWET fifteen minutes if you follow the INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) > LIKE THIS: "Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@**chello.nl> wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00... RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good! <snip> For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog, he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask permission" first, and to my surprise it worked! My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them), maybe this helped too. Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id**3.html -- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/f...oggy-pictures/ AND LIKE THIS: "Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu> wrote in message Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much better than she did. This is after reading and implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise. And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?). Cheers! Greg-- AND LIKE THIS: "Paul B" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz... When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close to me I ended up going to the parks and teaching them without a lead at all, that ensured I had to use good communication and was unable to be tempted to use the lead to correct them. Another part of the training I agree with is not using the "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no" or react with it in such a way that you become involved in the behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach often results in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you are about but doing it when you aren't (bin raiding, counter surfing etc). Basically you are taught to make your dog a good friend who likes and wants to work for you for the pleasure of working for you (setting the hierarchy is included in this), teach it to recall reliably, then to do everything else (sit, stay down etc etc). Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur. If you understand what you are trying to achieve and are prepared to work with it you can get great results. Paul From: "Paul B" <NOS...@clear.net.nz> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:04:56 +1300 Subject: Re: It doesn't work. Do it harder. "Chris Williams" <k9ap...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16008-3E52F7CF-697@storefull-2171.public.lawson.webtv.net... > > Interesting question posed in this article: why do humans > persist in doing things that are unsuccessful? > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/**arti...**HO240381.DTL There may be a few reasons, sometimes it's ignorance, simply a failure to realise what you are doing is futile and you need to adopt a different approach. Sometimes you may be learning a new technique and need to experiment with it to be sure it's not just the way you are applying it that is the problem, you may need to try slight variations of the same technique to see if there is a different result before you dismiss it completely. Sometimes you are doing the only thing you can think of, even though it's not working but you simply don't know what else to do. Either way as long as you are able to reflect and learn from your experiences and move forward then a few failed attempts are all part of the learning process. My best example was teaching both dogs to walk to heel, alone and together in the brace position. I was determined to teach them without any aids (choke, prong collars or treats etc) and without forcing the heel by jerking or restraining them using a leash, I knew it could be done, despite the scorn of friends and even family who "knew better" (but had never actually trained a dog in their lives). It took me a while trying various ways to entice them to want to walk beside me, someone else at the dog park whose dog appeared to heel very well ( but held it's ears back and tail down and looked very intimidated about being at heel) suggested I give up and use a choke collar like him, but I was obstinate. One day like a switch it all fell into place, first one dog then the other then both together all walked to heel, then I tried without leads and it worked, the dogs were happy and so was I. I had persevered and succeeded and learnt a lot in the process. People said "it took you long enough" but now I could teach heel easily and quickly when I need to do it again. And now when I walk my dogs and I see the same scornful people with their dogs still pulling on the choke collars saying "heel, heel" it's me who has the last laugh. Paul AND THIS: Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me! Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.*com Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the family pack exercise and practicing the recall command with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even refusing to go with anyone but me. I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method and *judge the results for yourself*. Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi and don't wander. jh). That's in about a week's time. Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive (except with her area/toys where she was possessive and nippy). She had been abused and beaten by previous owners, then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough (in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once when she heard the front door. Great! Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves out the bad. Works for me. (And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally. I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a "Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.) Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227 AND LIKE THIS: "Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com. .. >Jerry believes he's a dog trainer. Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too. I took a rescued three year old beagle that had been kept outside all of its life that didn't even recognize or respond to its name to Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack??? get real) and in just over one hour of working with the dog, he was coming on command (not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and walking with us on a loose lead. His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called" command and pack exercise WORK! > and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog. Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him. You don't have to like him. You don't have to agree with his methods, but as far as I am concerned, I've never seen any other training approach that was as fast and easy. <<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>> Ron Flanagan Orlando, Florida "If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn. Hello Jenn, "brijen" <bri...@vennercnospams.com> wrote in message news:397cfaa3_1@news.oanet.com... > Hello Jerry, > > I just wanted to let you know that I am > trying this right now. Good. > I am the woman who wrote to you a while > ago about trying to walk my dog without > the pinch collar. I recall. > She also goes APE when I grab the leash. > We have been doing this technique you > recommend for about a half an hour now > and the results are already fantastic, as > well as amusing! Yeah, dog training should always be more fun than work. > At first, we went out and I stood there, > and Anya kept trying to head out to the > sidewalk. When I didn't follow, she came > and sat beside me at heel! (Thanks to > your help!) She'd NEVER done that before. It's the same principle as in the Hot And Cold Exercise. > I rewarded that with a few steps of > a walk, but we came in after about > 30 seconds. She stopped and looked > at me as if she were thinking, "What? > But we just got out here!" > > The second and third times, she was > even MORE eager when she saw the > leash, and I got the same look when > I turned around to go back in. The > fourth time, she just bounced a bit as > she walked to the door with me, and > sat nicely to wait until I hooked up the > leash, and this last time, I HAD TO CALL > HER TO ME!!!!!!!!!! Fine. That's because dogs learn on the basis of four repetitions. That's not to say they can't learn some things faster, but for breaking habits, it usually happens the fourth time we repeat a lesson. Then we need to repeat the lesson at three more locations our time in each to generalize the idea. Let's say your dog gets excited when you take her lead and go to the front door. She would probably do the same at the back door, but to not such a degree. Likewise for any other door. It would behoove you to repeat the exercise with several other doors and it would be easiest to start with a door that had less excitement involved with it. > If I knew it would be that easy, I would have > done this a long time ago saving myself 5 > years of dealing with a bouncy, over excited dog! The non force methods work fast and easy because we are not challenging the dog or calling our attention to their behavior problems. > I have to tell you how the walk is going > though. I have a lot of problems there, > but it is all ME. > > I have been so conditioned to "correct" > her, that I still find myself yanking on > her collar. Yes, those habits are hard to break. It's easier for me to train a person who has no experience at all because they have no bad habits of pulling and forcing control. > I feel so awful! We have only been working > in the yard without distractions, because I > honestly don't know what will happen if she > sees another dog and I won't have the pinch > collar to keep her from dragging me over for > a fight. You know that working the dog in the back yard is not preferable, because that causes them some anxiety because it's their free area. But with your dog and with the difficulty he is to handle, I don't see any reason you shouldn't do the Family Leadership Exercise and the come command several times out there, and then you'll have the control to do it in a more neutral area. > The upside is, when I take the leash off it's > hook and don't take the pinch collar, her > excitement to go for a walk is NO LONGER > combined with the intense fear I used to see > in her eyes at the sight of the pinch! Our group likes to think that is EXCITEMENT and eagerness to work. It is sheer terror. The pinch collar works by overriding the opposition reflex through fear and that cause tremendous stress and anxiety that must be released through anxiety relief mechanisms like barking, digging, whining, chewing, self mutilation and aggression. > That does it for me. I can't believe I instilled > fear in my beautiful dog just for the sake that > I didn't know how to train. Well, I still don't > know how, but I'm learning! That's where I was three dozen years ago. I was ready to just quit. I wasn't going to sour any more dogs to make them work. > Thanks for your help. Please send more > suggestions if you saw something I could > be doing differently! > Jenn & Anya I was thinking about your difficulties with your dog. Just getting the Hot And Cold Exercise and the Family Leadership Exercise and the come command installed will solve most of your difficulty with him. I presume you've got msn messenger. We can speak over that if you are set up for it, and I can demonstrate the timing and tone and tempo for using sound distractions and praise, or we could speak on the phone. The most important thing to remember is to pick up and handle the lead in a relaxed manner, no white knuckles, keep your elbow relaxed and your arm down at your side with the length of the lead breaking just below the knee. Let me know if you need further help. Jerry. > Also does anyone know how to remove tics? Just pull 'm off. > Or tips on avoiding these critters. Look into beneficial nematodes, they work very well. Fireants eat them too... Other than that you just got to LOOK. WARNING: rec./alt.pets./dogs. are newsgroups where FHOWEL language, verbal assault, and a wide variety of obscene concepts are often present. If this sort of thing is not likely to sit well with you it is probably best that you refrain from reading these forums where proven lying dog abusing active acute incurable long term MENTAL CASES hurt intimdiate and murder their own dogs and lie abHOWET IT. <{) ; ~ ) > Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A <{) ; ~ ) > Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) > if you need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) > And FOR FREE, to boot <{) ; ~ ) > "I Was Afraid I Would Have To Kill Him If He Bit Someone Even Though I Loved Him So Much.," Linda From: Linda Daniel To: Jerry Howe Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would have but many people would have. The world just does not know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually solve problems. We will be here until late April and we really have no plans- -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be happy to come to you anytime anywhere! We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy. He really just is not concerned about people passing, even those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!! Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes. I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!! I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having a problem with other people and dogs. I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with treats--one really good suggestions was to have people coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused and not move until we backed away- - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street until I get his attention with treats. They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac- but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make him less fearful and then he might attack or become more sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice. ==============================**======== |