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HOWEDY Mick,

Mick wrote:
> I have a lively


You mean hyperactive.

> 2 year old


Any three week old puppy got all the brains he
needs to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic
puppy dog trainer.

> Springer Spaniel


A dog is a dog.

> and I am having problems training him to walk on a leash,


The Amazing Puppy Wizard got a standing $100.00 wager HE can
train ANY dog to heel sit and stay in five minutes withHOWET
hurtin him.

> he is pulling constantly,


Dogs pull to ESCAPE being RESTRAINED and CHOKED.

> otherwise he is fine.


Good.

> Does anyone have any tips to train him to walk
> comfortably on a leash?


You can train him to not pull on lead in abHOWET fifteen
minutes if you follow the INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE COPY
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >

LIKE THIS:

"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@**chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

<snip>

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id**3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/f...oggy-pictures/

AND LIKE THIS:

"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu> wrote in message
Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--

AND LIKE THIS:

"Paul B" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...

When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close
to me I ended up going to the parks and teaching
them without a lead at all, that ensured I had to use
good communication and was unable to be tempted
to use the lead to correct them.

Another part of the training I agree with is not using
the "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no"
or react with it in such a way that you become involved
in the behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach
often results in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you
are about but doing it when you aren't (bin raiding,
counter surfing etc).

Basically you are taught to make your dog a good
friend who likes and wants to work for you for the
pleasure of working for you (setting the hierarchy
is included in this), teach it to recall reliably,
then to do everything else (sit, stay down etc etc).

Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur.
If you understand what you are trying to achieve and
are prepared to work with it you can get great results.

Paul

From: "Paul B" <NOS...@clear.net.nz> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:04:56
+1300

Subject: Re: It doesn't work. Do it harder.

"Chris Williams" <k9ap...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16008-3E52F7CF-697@storefull-2171.public.lawson.webtv.net...
>
> Interesting question posed in this article: why do humans
> persist in doing things that are unsuccessful?
>
>

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/**arti...**HO240381.DTL


There may be a few reasons, sometimes it's ignorance, simply a failure
to realise what you are doing is futile and you need to adopt a
different approach. Sometimes you may be learning a new technique and
need to experiment with it to be sure it's not just the way you are
applying it that is the problem, you may need to try slight
variations of the same technique to see if there is a different
result before you dismiss it completely.

Sometimes you are doing the only thing you can think of, even though
it's not working but you simply don't know what else to do.

Either way as long as you are able to reflect and learn from your
experiences and move forward then a few failed attempts are all part of
the learning process.

My best example was teaching both dogs to walk to heel, alone and
together in the brace position. I was determined to teach them without
any aids (choke, prong collars or treats etc) and without forcing the
heel by jerking or restraining them using a leash, I knew it could be
done, despite the scorn of friends and even family who "knew better"
(but had never actually trained a dog in their lives).

It took me a while trying various ways to entice them to want to walk
beside me, someone else at the dog park whose dog appeared to heel
very well ( but held it's ears back and tail down and looked very
intimidated about being at heel) suggested I give up and use a choke
collar like him, but I was obstinate.

One day like a switch it all fell into place, first one dog then the
other then both together all walked to heel, then I tried without
leads and it worked, the dogs were happy and so was I.

I had persevered and succeeded and learnt a lot in the process.

People said "it took you long enough" but now I could teach heel easily
and quickly when I need to do it again. And now when I walk my dogs
and I see the same scornful people with their dogs still pulling on
the choke collars saying "heel, heel" it's me who has the last laugh.


Paul

AND THIS:

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.*com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

AND LIKE THIS:

"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..

>Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.


Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.


Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!"
Jenn.

Hello Jenn,

"brijen" <bri...@vennercnospams.com> wrote in message
news:397cfaa3_1@news.oanet.com...
> Hello Jerry,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am
> trying this right now.


Good.

> I am the woman who wrote to you a while
> ago about trying to walk my dog without
> the pinch collar.


I recall.

> She also goes APE when I grab the leash.
> We have been doing this technique you
> recommend for about a half an hour now
> and the results are already fantastic, as
> well as amusing!


Yeah, dog training should always be more
fun than work.

> At first, we went out and I stood there,
> and Anya kept trying to head out to the
> sidewalk. When I didn't follow, she came
> and sat beside me at heel! (Thanks to
> your help!) She'd NEVER done that before.


It's the same principle as in the Hot
And Cold Exercise.

> I rewarded that with a few steps of
> a walk, but we came in after about
> 30 seconds. She stopped and looked
> at me as if she were thinking, "What?
> But we just got out here!"
>
> The second and third times, she was
> even MORE eager when she saw the
> leash, and I got the same look when
> I turned around to go back in. The
> fourth time, she just bounced a bit as
> she walked to the door with me, and
> sat nicely to wait until I hooked up the
> leash, and this last time, I HAD TO CALL
> HER TO ME!!!!!!!!!!


Fine. That's because dogs learn on the basis of
four repetitions. That's not to say they can't learn
some things faster, but for breaking habits, it usually happens the
fourth
time we repeat a lesson.

Then we need to repeat the lesson at three more
locations our time in each to generalize the idea.
Let's say your dog gets excited when you take her
lead and go to the front door. She would probably
do the same at the back door, but to not such a degree.

Likewise for any other door.

It would behoove you to repeat the exercise with
several other doors and it would be easiest to
start with a door that had less excitement involved
with it.

> If I knew it would be that easy, I would have
> done this a long time ago saving myself 5
> years of dealing with a bouncy, over excited dog!


The non force methods work fast and easy
because we are not challenging the dog or
calling our attention to their behavior problems.

> I have to tell you how the walk is going
> though. I have a lot of problems there,
> but it is all ME.
>
> I have been so conditioned to "correct"
> her, that I still find myself yanking on
> her collar.


Yes, those habits are hard to break. It's easier for
me to train a person who has no experience at all
because they have no bad habits of pulling and
forcing control.

> I feel so awful! We have only been working
> in the yard without distractions, because I
> honestly don't know what will happen if she
> sees another dog and I won't have the pinch
> collar to keep her from dragging me over for
> a fight.


You know that working the dog in the back
yard is not preferable, because that causes
them some anxiety because it's their free
area. But with your dog and with the difficulty
he is to handle, I don't see any reason you
shouldn't do the Family Leadership Exercise
and the come command several times out there,
and then you'll have the control to do it in a
more neutral area.

> The upside is, when I take the leash off it's
> hook and don't take the pinch collar, her
> excitement to go for a walk is NO LONGER
> combined with the intense fear I used to see
> in her eyes at the sight of the pinch!


Our group likes to think that is EXCITEMENT
and eagerness to work. It is sheer terror. The
pinch collar works by overriding the opposition
reflex through fear and that cause tremendous
stress and anxiety that must be released through
anxiety relief mechanisms like barking, digging,
whining, chewing, self mutilation and aggression.

> That does it for me. I can't believe I instilled
> fear in my beautiful dog just for the sake that
> I didn't know how to train. Well, I still don't
> know how, but I'm learning!


That's where I was three dozen years ago. I was
ready to just quit. I wasn't going to sour any more
dogs to make them work.

> Thanks for your help. Please send more
> suggestions if you saw something I could
> be doing differently!
> Jenn & Anya


I was thinking about your difficulties with your
dog. Just getting the Hot And Cold Exercise and
the Family Leadership Exercise and the come
command installed will solve most of your
difficulty with him.

I presume you've got msn messenger. We can
speak over that if you are set up for it, and I
can demonstrate the timing and tone and tempo
for using sound distractions and praise, or we
could speak on the phone.

The most important thing to remember is to
pick up and handle the lead in a relaxed manner,
no white knuckles, keep your elbow relaxed and
your arm down at your side with the length of the
lead breaking just below the knee.

Let me know if you need further help.

Jerry.


> Also does anyone know how to remove tics?


Just pull 'm off.

> Or tips on avoiding these critters.


Look into beneficial nematodes, they work very well.
Fireants eat them too... Other than that you just got
to LOOK.

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"I Was Afraid I Would Have To Kill Him If He Bit Someone Even
Though I Loved Him So Much.," Linda

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.


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