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"Accentuate The Positive - Punishment Free Training Is A Wonderful Sounding Concept, A Great Sales Pitch," captain arthur haggerty, author, AKC Gazette. HOWEDY People, "Accentuate The Positive." That's the title of our friend captain haggerty's column in the recent a.k.c. gazette. "When positive reinforcement is all that is necessary, training is pleasurable to both of you," says the good cap'n. At least we can agree on that. Maybe the good capt'n has been reading my posts here and is feeling a lot self-conscious about our recent progress teaching dog owners to understand what's gone wrong. Well, its about time. Too bad the good cap'n (teacher to uncle matty [see L.A.Weekly article] and our own boob maida and ???possibly our own anonymous dogman???) is on the wrong side the fear, force, confrontation, and pain issue. Our "traditional trainers" led by the likes of our good cap'n and our Descartean professors of behavior are the root of the problem, rather than a source of information and inspiration that we desperately need and want... Too bad our good cap'n is hiding behind the cover of the akc and their publication The A.K.C. Gazzette, where he can't be forced to respond to this criticism and indictment of his methods, methodology, and madness and engage in discussion or debate or at least TRY to defend his unconscionalble point of view that HURTING BRIBING and INTIMIDATING DOGS or CHILDREN to train them is apuprriate, intellignent, and justifiable based on his thirty sumthin years of HURTING INTMIDATING BRIBING and LOCKING DOGS IN BOXES and tryin to get HOWET callin THAT, TRAINING and MURDERING dogs he can't abuse into subordination... or "TRAIN", if you will. You think he knows enough about dog training and conditioning behavior to teach you HOWE to use only positive reinforcement? He can't do it himself, so HOWE do you expect him to teach you? The good cap'n mumbles on about his perception of clicker training and calls it LUCK. He then goes on to say: "if you have to let a dog know when it is doing something right, then you must also let it know when it is doing something wrong." (Don't you just love it when dog lovers refer to your dog as IT?) HOWE does the good cap'n extrapolate the need to let the dog know he's doing something we want, to being obligated to tell the dog he's doing something we don't want? That's the point to USING "PURELY PLEASURABLE POSITIVE ONLY, NON PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL methods ONLY. WE do not NEED to tell the dog NO if we are smart enough to OUTWIT the cunning of the domestic PUPPY DOG using EFFECTIVE NON PHYSICAL CONDITIONING. It's EZ if you know HOWE. The good cap'n doesn't. Or he wouldn't NEED to HURT and INTMIMIDATE and LOCK DOGS IN BOXES and SHOCK and SPRAY AVERSIVES in their eyes and TELL US IT DON'T HURT. The good cap'n further shoves his foot deep into his mouth with: "the latter requires some sort of negative reinforcement, which, of course, is something of an oxymoron." Too bad he doesn't understand the scientific meaning of the terms positive and negative reinforcent. Yes I know exactly what the cap'n means. He means that he does not have the intellect to be able to train a dog without hurting and confronting him. First he starts off talking "purely positive" and then he says that because we tell the dog when he's doing something right, that we're obligated to tell the dog when he's doing something wrong. That's what the cap'n does. Competent dog trainers don't do that because it's confrontational and causes aversions to commands and handler and TEACHES dogs and children to DO those behaviors as soon a his ABUSER turns his back. "It can be as uncomplicated as saying a firm NO." EXACTLY MY POINT. Competent trainers don't be telling dogs "firmly NO" on account of that's what provokes dogs to do more of the same behavior to make us stop in our tracks to tell them NO and spend time distracted WITH them, when all we would have needed is to allow the dog to attempt the behavior and make a brief variably alternating distraction INSTANTLY followed with PROLONGED SINCERE EXXXUBERANT UNCONDITIONAL PRAISE. Do that a few times in a row and the dog will be broken of that behavior. But our heavy handed thick headed weak minded cap'n can't figure that out because he doesn't have the brains to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog or he wouldn't NEED to hurt and intimidate them, would he??? Or, is it because he enjoys jerking and choking and confronting dogs to make them do what he wants? I think our friend the good cap'n might have some CONTROL issues to deal with in his own personality complex. "One good thing about negative reinforcement is that when appropriately delivered, it can immediately stop an unwanted behavior." O.K. cap'n. You can repress a behavior but there is often a replacement behavior that may be worse than the behavior you are trying to repress. I can give dozens of examples like SEPARATION anxiHOWESNESS CAR SICKNESS, FEAR OF THUNDER, LIGHT / SHADOW / FLY SNAPPING OCD's, so don't even THINK of startin with that. "Now I know there are people who claim that they use only positive reinforcement and no negatives;" but the good cap'n isn't familar enough with dog training and behavior to do that. "I'm a bit skeptical when when I hear this claim." And that's all the proof I need to prove our good cap'n to be an incompetent dog trainer: HOWE do they PUNISH Shamu? HOWER GOOD cap'n CONtinues: "You CAN train a dog using all positives. Generally speaking, though, it is not as efficacious." Now ain't that an oxymoron? Either that or it's an outright lie. What's the story? If you hurt a dog he's going to want to work more willingly and more creatively than if you are only using positive motivation and conditioning techniques which will make the dog think he's working instinctively through his natural pack cooperative teamwork effort as NATURE PROGRAMMED HIM? Come off it cap'n. Get the heel outta this business and stop misleading people because you ain't bright enough to train a dog without hurting them. Then the good cap'n continues on talking about corrections and punishiment and says "punishment free training is a wonderful sounding concept, a great sales pitch." The cap'n is fighting for his career and reputation. His ship is sinking fast. Then our good cap'n, the expert who isn't bright enough to train a puppy dog without hurting him has the nerve to say "They are making some great adjustments and sacrifices for what they feel to be the sake of their dog." Does the cap'n think that training dogs quickly and without fear, force, confrontation, punishment, or negative side effects is not as sensible as training a dog by locking IT inside of a crate and a chin cuffing and scruff shaking and jerking and choking IT on a pronged choke or shock collar and time outs and punishments "TO ENHANCE THE BOND between TRAINER AND DOG"? Something is very wrong here. We've got an expert who can't train a dog without hurting him telling YOU that WE can't train dogs as quickly and effectively using proven scientific and psychological behavior conditoning and modification techniques. That's outrageous, isn't it folks? Our simple minded cap'n continues to discredit himself saying: "Some even feel that corrections would shatter their relationship with their dog. I'm sure that they do not have that tenuous a relationship with their dogs, but if they feel they do, that is their perorgative." What's tenuous about a good relationship? Suppose it only deteriorates your relationship A LITTLE. That's GOOD? There's no need to force and hurt dogs to train them. IF our cap'n's got enough intelligence, he's only using it to fabricate arguments to defend his thirty sumthin year history of abusing dogs and calling it training. He then goes on to rationalize HOWE non force training takes longer. He don't get it. He don't understand getting a dog to NATURALLY WANT to do everything you ask because YOU know HOWE to make Natural Law work for you to compel your dog to want to do anything you ask without pain force, fear, intimidation, bribery or punishment. The cap'n goes off rambling about the "combination approach" of sometimes being positive and sometimes being corrective forgetting about such things as allelomimetic behavior and consistancy and slobbers all over himself saying "it reduces stress by letting the dog realize what's wanted and you can tell by the expression on it's face IT appreciates the guidance." "Why limit yourself?" The good cap'n don't get it because he's not intellectually capable of understanding. He goes on to say: "Punishment free trainers deserve credit for taking a road less traveled. It's not a road that I choose to take. I want to get the job done expeditiously." So he confronts and punishes a dog because he doen't think making a dog want to do everything you ask using purely positive proven effective scientific and psychological techniques is possible. Your positive pal, Jerry "Mr NICE Guy," Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ } > All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- even tho it's a hopeless task, in this system of things. As long as man is ruling man, there will be animals (and humans!) abused and neglected. :-( Your student," Juanita. "If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow," John Wayne. GOT MILK? ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES? ,-._,-, V)"(V (_o_) Have a great day! / V) (l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } > oo-oo |