Help! Nervous Staffy Hates Storms...

....and jets flying overhead, lorries going past house, fireworlks.
Everytime he hears any of these things, he shivers and shakes and
pants and appears to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid
panting. He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide -
and we can't calm him down whatever we do.
We rescued him from a shelter, and he is *really* well behaved and
well-trained - he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly
noises.
We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise any remedy for this?
Is it common in this breed? (I didn't think so from experiences of
friends)

Any advice gratefully received!

HOWEDY Maria,

Maria wrote:

> ...and jets flying overhead, lorries going past
> house, fireworlks. Everytime he hears any of these
> things, he shivers and shakes and pants and appears
> to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid
> panting.

Dogs DIE from that, Maria.

> He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide -

You can't let him do that...

> and we can't calm him down whatever we do.

RIGHT. On accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW HOWE.

> We rescued him from a shelter,

He was probably "given up" for behavior problems.

> and he is *really* well behaved and well-trained -

THAT'S HOWE COME HE FEARS S-HOWENDS.

ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

> he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly noises.

INDEEDY. You can CURE THAT IN WON DAY if you know HOWE.

> We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise
> any remedy for this?

You mean, sumpthin like a 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANT CURE for ALL temperament and behavior problems?

> Is it common in this breed?

A dog is a dog. We DON'T BLAME the BREED noMOOORE.

> (I didn't think so from experiences of friends)

INDEED.

> Any advice gratefully received!

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

====================

"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!
This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.
The next time it thundered, he did not even
react at all--you could not tell it was the same
dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.
Juanita

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of TheScientific
Management Of Doggies.

LeeCharlesKelley Wrote:

>From what I've read of Jerry's method it incorporates
a completely new model of learning, which is based (in
simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is the
result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension.

This is true not just for dogs but all animals.

You don't believe in the validity of this
particular model of learning? You don't
think it makes sense?

Fine, I guess.

But it makes total sense to me.

And it made sense to Pavlov, too,
though not many people know this.

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are
what reinforces any behavior.

Finn once saw a small mouse come out of a hole
atthe base of a tree. Needless to say his prey
instinct kicked in BIG TIME and he chased it
back into the hole. This was 7 years before
he died. Up until the very last time he walked
through that section of the park (an hour before
he went) he checked the base of that tree.

He saw that mouse exactly *once*....he never
saw it again. Don't we all have stories like
that?

Especially those of us with dogs whose
prey drives are pretty intense?

And there are lots of examples that may not
even require the prey drive to be active,
just a strong desire to do something: a dog
who wants to escape from the back yard will
learn how to do it once and never forget it,
a dog who wants to jump on the couch or the
bed doesn't need any repetitions to "reinforce"
or re-learn the behavior.

If something is important to a dog, he'll
learn how to do it. Once he learns it, he
learns it. The trick to getting him to
"unlearn" it, is to give him a more
emotionally satisfying replacement behavior.

With Oscar and the cat, the more satisfying
behavior was relating to me instead of the cat.
(He's a Lab, with a strong need for social
connections, so that was pretty easy.)

I've been experimenting recently with Jerry
Howe's method of using a sound distraction,
then praising the dog, without any physical
contact, for 15 seconds.

My initial reaction to his technique was that
it was silly to keep praising the dog that long.

I mean, Jerry's a nut, right?

But in every case except one, when I've followed
the exercise exactly, I've seen a definite
physiological change take place in the dog -
- yawning or stretching have been the usual
indicators -- and after only a few repetitions,
the dog often relaxes, curls up, and goes to sleep!

I've tried this on barking, counter-surfing,
separation anxiety, even two dogs who live
together and fight constantly. I was pretty
amazed when I saw this little Boston give up
her aggression and start to yawn!

It's too early for me to be convinced that it
will work every single time with every single
dog, or that it will even have a lasting effect
on these dogs, but so far I think that it's
effective at reducing emotional tension, which,
as you know, I believe that all behavior comes
from the dog trying to find a way to reduce
emotional tension. If you give the dog a
replacement behavior that successfully reduces
emotional tension, the first behavior will no
longer be necessary and the dog will stop doing it.

"Maria" <frustated@home.com> wrote in message
news:3cj3c1l2uie6nr1lqtc32t6jq2fvnccv58@4ax.com...
> ...and jets flying overhead, lorries going past house, fireworlks.
> Everytime he hears any of these things, he shivers and shakes and
> pants and appears to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid
> panting. He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide -
> and we can't calm him down whatever we do.
> We rescued him from a shelter, and he is *really* well behaved and
> well-trained - he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly
> noises.
> We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise any remedy for this?
> Is it common in this breed? (I didn't think so from experiences of
> friends)
>

I guess you are a fellow uk'er?

Do you use a house cage? If carefully introduced, it can be an invaluable
tool and with a nice dark cover may well be that safe haven he's looking
for.

You can also try a DAP (dog appeasing pheromone (sp) - a bit like a plug in
air freshener but emits 'well being' pheromones for dogs). Some find they
work wonders, others find they don't work at all... worth a try.

Rescue remedy - I'm cynical about this one, but others swear by it -
available from chemists.

Skullcap and valerian root capsules is effective in calming stress and
making a dog feel more relaxed. Dorwest herbs stock it as I remember.

Last by not least, you can get CD's of 'scary noises to gradually
desensitise him. I would personally go the crate, dap and s&v capsules along
with the CD. Can't rem the supplier but I believe you should be able to find
it here: www.apbt.co.uk

Good luck - I am very lucky. My dog is totally not affected at all, but I am
terrified

Diana

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	#1
Maria	Help! Nervous Staffy Hates Storms... ....and jets flying overhead, lorries going past house, fireworlks. Everytime he hears any of these things, he shivers and shakes and pants and appears to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid panting. He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide - and we can't calm him down whatever we do. We rescued him from a shelter, and he is really well behaved and well-trained - he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly noises. We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise any remedy for this? Is it common in this breed? (I didn't think so from experiences of friends) Any advice gratefully received!

	#2
It's Only Alimentary, Dear Watson	Re: Help! Nervous Staffy Hates Storms... HOWEDY Maria, Maria wrote: > ...and jets flying overhead, lorries going past > house, fireworlks. Everytime he hears any of these > things, he shivers and shakes and pants and appears > to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid > panting. Dogs DIE from that, Maria. > He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide - You can't let him do that... > and we can't calm him down whatever we do. RIGHT. On accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW HOWE. > We rescued him from a shelter, He was probably "given up" for behavior problems. > and he is really well behaved and well-trained - THAT'S HOWE COME HE FEARS S-HOWENDS. ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. > he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly noises. INDEEDY. You can CURE THAT IN WON DAY if you know HOWE. > We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise > any remedy for this? You mean, sumpthin like a 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT CURE for ALL temperament and behavior problems? > Is it common in this breed? A dog is a dog. We DON'T BLAME the BREED noMOOORE. > (I didn't think so from experiences of friends) INDEED. > Any advice gratefully received! Chris Williams writes: "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I've always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac's fireworks trauma," ==================== "Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net. Tracy, What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog! This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW. The next time it thundered, he did not even react at all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before. There was more thunder just the other day, and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all, it was that simple. I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non- abusive way of handling dogs WORKS. Wonderfully. Praise. It's that simple. Juanita Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of TheScientific Management Of Doggies. LeeCharlesKelley Wrote: >From what I've read of Jerry's method it incorporates a completely new model of learning, which is based (in simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is the result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension. This is true not just for dogs but all animals. You don't believe in the validity of this particular model of learning? You don't think it makes sense? Fine, I guess. But it makes total sense to me. And it made sense to Pavlov, too, though not many people know this. "Postitive emotions arising in connection with the perfection of a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at a given moment, serve as the reinforcement." IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are what reinforces any behavior. Finn once saw a small mouse come out of a hole atthe base of a tree. Needless to say his prey instinct kicked in BIG TIME and he chased it back into the hole. This was 7 years before he died. Up until the very last time he walked through that section of the park (an hour before he went) he checked the base of that tree. He saw that mouse exactly once....he never saw it again. Don't we all have stories like that? Especially those of us with dogs whose prey drives are pretty intense? And there are lots of examples that may not even require the prey drive to be active, just a strong desire to do something: a dog who wants to escape from the back yard will learn how to do it once and never forget it, a dog who wants to jump on the couch or the bed doesn't need any repetitions to "reinforce" or re-learn the behavior. If something is important to a dog, he'll learn how to do it. Once he learns it, he learns it. The trick to getting him to "unlearn" it, is to give him a more emotionally satisfying replacement behavior. With Oscar and the cat, the more satisfying behavior was relating to me instead of the cat. (He's a Lab, with a strong need for social connections, so that was pretty easy.) I've been experimenting recently with Jerry Howe's method of using a sound distraction, then praising the dog, without any physical contact, for 15 seconds. My initial reaction to his technique was that it was silly to keep praising the dog that long. I mean, Jerry's a nut, right? But in every case except one, when I've followed the exercise exactly, I've seen a definite physiological change take place in the dog - - yawning or stretching have been the usual indicators -- and after only a few repetitions, the dog often relaxes, curls up, and goes to sleep! I've tried this on barking, counter-surfing, separation anxiety, even two dogs who live together and fight constantly. I was pretty amazed when I saw this little Boston give up her aggression and start to yawn! It's too early for me to be convinced that it will work every single time with every single dog, or that it will even have a lasting effect on these dogs, but so far I think that it's effective at reducing emotional tension, which, as you know, I believe that all behavior comes from the dog trying to find a way to reduce emotional tension. If you give the dog a replacement behavior that successfully reduces emotional tension, the first behavior will no longer be necessary and the dog will stop doing it.

	#3
Diana	Re: Help! Nervous Staffy Hates Storms... "Maria" <frustated@home.com> wrote in message news:3cj3c1l2uie6nr1lqtc32t6jq2fvnccv58@4ax.com... > ...and jets flying overhead, lorries going past house, fireworlks. > Everytime he hears any of these things, he shivers and shakes and > pants and appears to be having a kind of panic attack, with rapid > panting. He tears around the house trying to find somewhere to hide - > and we can't calm him down whatever we do. > We rescued him from a shelter, and he is really well behaved and > well-trained - he just goes to pieces when he hears loud rumbly > noises. > We are dreading November 5th - can anyone advise any remedy for this? > Is it common in this breed? (I didn't think so from experiences of > friends) > I guess you are a fellow uk'er? Do you use a house cage? If carefully introduced, it can be an invaluable tool and with a nice dark cover may well be that safe haven he's looking for. You can also try a DAP (dog appeasing pheromone (sp) - a bit like a plug in air freshener but emits 'well being' pheromones for dogs). Some find they work wonders, others find they don't work at all... worth a try. Rescue remedy - I'm cynical about this one, but others swear by it - available from chemists. Skullcap and valerian root capsules is effective in calming stress and making a dog feel more relaxed. Dorwest herbs stock it as I remember. Last by not least, you can get CD's of 'scary noises to gradually desensitise him. I would personally go the crate, dap and s&v capsules along with the CD. Can't rem the supplier but I believe you should be able to find it here: www.apbt.co.uk Good luck - I am very lucky. My dog is totally not affected at all, but I am terrified Diana -- Cindy the weimaraner's web site: http://cindy-incidentally.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk

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TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com	Re: Help! Nervous Staffy Hates Storms... BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!! Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G*34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) > The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) > Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, You could train your dog not to EAT POISON or SNAKES or KAT CRAP or SURF from the C-HOWENTERS or not to escape or whatever you want but ONLY if you study and follow the INSTRUCTIONS it takes which ONLY The Amazing Puppy Wizard makes that can teach you HOWE to DO IT YOURSELF... but YOU WON'T on accHOWENT of you'd PREFER to HURT BRIBE FORCE and INTIMIATE your dog just like your kids and your SPHOWES you KNOW HOWE to DO THAT too, don't you, dog lovers. Is It The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) > Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, Look arHOWEND at the liars and dog abusing mental cases you're rubbin elbows with while askin for heelp to hurt and intimdiate the CUNNIN domestic puppy dog you ain't got the intellect to HOWEtwit <{) ;~ ) > THAT'S the COMPANY YOU BEEN KEEPIN. Like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "You're JUDGED BY the company you keep. When you lie with pigs you'll awaken STINKIN like 'em," a lesson taught at the heel of The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{) ; ~ ) > THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS <{) ; ~ ) > THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF as PROVEN by your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. "When you POST HERE abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard will NO HOWET IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and Discredit and leave you TURNED HOWET and F'd OFF for the last remnants of your dignity and self respect, if you EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any and YOUR OWN WORDS will IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT YOURSELF to your friends business associates and kin for the rest of your life and for generations to come... on accHOWENT of EVERY THING is indellibly archived FOREVER in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives <{) ; ~ ) >